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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2019, 10:14:09 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzeYw7Nm_1A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzeYw7Nm_1A</a>
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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2019, 10:16:08 pm »
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I love Kipchoge so much.

"I don’t know where the limits are, but I would like to go there."

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2019, 12:29:07 am »
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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2019, 01:02:21 am »
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"I don’t know where the limits are, but I would like to go there." -- Eliud Kipchoge

"Saturday will be like going up to the moon and coming back to earth." -- Eliud Kipchoge
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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2019, 04:55:06 am »
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well that was incredible.

i'm exhausted from watching it. edge of my seat type of feeling the entire time.

eliud really battled through some rough spots. it was scary. but he finished so strong. he could have probably gone under 1:59... it's unreal.

he almost got tripped once as well!

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2019, 02:26:53 pm »
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celebration in eldoret.

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2019, 02:27:50 pm »
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absolutely love this photo.

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2019, 02:28:27 pm »
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and love this photo. eliud before the attempt.

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2019, 02:41:00 pm »
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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2019, 09:11:48 pm »
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quick recap

the end really is incredible. one of the most amazing things i've seen in sport. how the pace car leaves, then he just burst through his pacemakers & hits the burners. really was "space shuttle"-ish hehe.

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2019, 07:14:04 pm »
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How does he do it? To run a marathon under 2 hours. Looking at the way he ran and the pace he was running at was just crazy sub 1 hr half marathon and then accelerating at the end and even after finishing he had energy. If he was to run and push himself that at the finish line he is in the same state as most of the 5k 10k runners are, tired lying on the fall exhausted then who knows how quick he can go.

I don't think I will be able to comprehend on what an amazing feat he has just achieved.
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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2019, 08:02:18 am »
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Read a very interesting article that was expressing some skepticism about this. Not criticism, skepticism, some concerns and philosophical issues that come up.
I mean, noone will disagree how much greatness this accomplishment has. But what was that exactly? Will athletes be choosing the perfect conditions in a perfect time and place, in a perfect period of their training, in their own selected personal course, under the sponsorship of a billionaire? Couldn't that lead to the death of sports as we know them, to the rise of some kind of laboratory-experiment style features? This is not about Kipchoge, but to where is this leading.
On the other hand, it's not that we are so far from it as we are right now. It is the same thing happening already probably, just sweetly/wisely camouflaged.
Thoughts?

Regardless:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-2019-ineos-159-challenge-nike-splits-numbers-statistics-a9153111.html

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His average time per 100m was 17.02 seconds, 200m at 34.03, 400m at 01:08.06, 800m at 02:16.13 and 1,500m at 04:15.3. His 100m pace was replicated 422 times.

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Quote from: adarqui on May 17, 2021, 04:57:01 pm
it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2019, 09:23:53 am »
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i don't know about the slippery slope argument. he wasn't doing sports, it was more akin to trying to climb a mountain that no one has ever climbed before, or to give a specific example like alex honnold's free solo ascent of el capitan. there's no competition involved, it's a team with specialized roles behind an athlete, with corporate sponsorship.

the technology involved -- shoes, phalanx of pacers, timing guide projected on the ground -- make it a very different thing than a competitive race. no comparison, really. it's a great athletic achievement but it doesn't have any larger meaning with respect to running. the whole difference between his actual WR and 1:59:40 is the shoes and the pacers/screeners and the flat unidirectional course.

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2019, 09:40:58 am »
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Agree to all of the above.
The slippery slope is : how will you ever enjoy the sports marathons when you know they are an inferior... how to call it... 'venue'?
It will still be , say, Mo Farah today, running alone far ahead from the 2nd probably, finishing at 2'08'' or something. You will be watching the exact same thing with Kipchoge, a guy running alone trying to bet his best, but knowing his best can never come close to the 'lab' one,
Imagine the same thing spreading. A perfect conditions 9:3x 100m. Who will sit to watch 10'' races again after that. Competition is great and all, but the real adrenaline spike is when you check the clock to see if they WRed. Where are we going if this is taken away from us?
Not saying it is happening, but yes , worried that this might have been the start of it.
Also all those thoughts don't subtract even the slightest percentage of my owe and admiration of Kipchoge's accomplishment, which goes far beyond a timed running section.
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Quote from: adarqui on May 17, 2021, 04:57:01 pm
it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Eliud Kipchoge will make another attempt at a sub2 marathon
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2019, 09:52:23 am »
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Idk, if you had two kipchoge's in the same race going at it what would happen? And concerning 'lab conditions' how many people are capable of going sub 2hr in ideal conditions? Do they even exist or is Kipchoge in a class of his own? Do people have treadmill times better than him?
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