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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #150 on: October 14, 2017, 07:24:35 am »
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how is this 3.20 per km pace? elite level obviously. insane.


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« Reply #151 on: October 14, 2017, 03:57:21 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4GA451Dh_A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4GA451Dh_A</a>

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« Reply #152 on: October 15, 2017, 04:04:00 pm »
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good stuff. lmao.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=allcgyEAWB0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=allcgyEAWB0</a>

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« Reply #153 on: October 16, 2017, 12:00:53 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cfB4fI6rY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cfB4fI6rY</a>

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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #154 on: October 16, 2017, 02:06:17 pm »
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sub 5 video from sage just popped up on my feed

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ucyYP_qus" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ucyYP_qus</a>

he can talk impressively though while running & holding that cam, seems so awkward.

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« Reply #155 on: October 16, 2017, 06:03:54 pm »
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3x per day just doesn't seem sane/sustainable to me.. Apparently Cam Levins really broke down too, tons of injuries etc.. He just seems way too addicted to the mileage, this video is disturbing to me :/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA</a>

https://www.runnersworld.com/rt-web-exclusive/doubling-and-tripling-performance-incentives

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« Reply #156 on: October 16, 2017, 06:19:02 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT1YvI-PDAk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT1YvI-PDAk</a>

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« Reply #157 on: October 17, 2017, 11:24:41 am »
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3x per day just doesn't seem sane/sustainable to me.. Apparently Cam Levins really broke down too, tons of injuries etc.. He just seems way too addicted to the mileage, this video is disturbing to me :/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA</a>

https://www.runnersworld.com/rt-web-exclusive/doubling-and-tripling-performance-incentives

man I really hate this video.. it's bothering me alot. dude ate 1 fucking motts applesauce after a 10 mile run, and yet he knows he has like 20+ more miles including a hard workout ahead of him.

what the fuck man.

fuck his coach & any1 around him who didn't smack the shit out of him. he's a damn beast but this video is a great example of training addiction.

that's why i force myself to take rest days... and drink milk (protein/fat) after runs etc.

his style just seems so disordered to me.. ie, maybe he could somehow survive on it when he was younger, but as he is aging, he is falling apart.

KENYAN'S DONT DO THAT SHIT. that's all i know. they eat good, sleep, nap, train 2-3x/day but alternate hard/light days.. And Bernard Lagat takes 1 day off per week, mandatory, with 5-6 weeks off per year after his season.

:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

The thing with Cam Levins is .. he'll probably figure this out a few years from now, when he's "too old", and still make a run at something or make another olympics.. just because he'll reduce the volume a bit and eat better etc.

I saw a quote from some olympic track chick today, forget who, but it said in her bio:

things I hate: junk miles

loved that..

Cam Levins is addicted to junk miles.

Furthermore, towards the end of the vid, interviewer asks him if he'd go harder at night on his ez run because of his bad track session, and he admitted yes.. Again, Kenyan runners wouldn't do that. So much discipline.. so you had a bad session, who gives a fuck.. plus they don't look at their watch on light runs etc.

hold me back. ffs.


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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #159 on: October 18, 2017, 03:27:19 am »
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toe...midfoot...heel
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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« Reply #160 on: October 18, 2017, 05:54:09 am »
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toe...midfoot...heel

yea, beautiful.

and he's the slowest of the pack.........  :trollface:

other two have different form, which is what makes it an extra cool clip. white shirt is more traditional midfoot, yellow socks/nikes is more heel->toe.

the guy with more forefoot runs most graceful though, that's for sure.. looks amazing.

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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #161 on: October 18, 2017, 06:43:47 am »
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3x per day just doesn't seem sane/sustainable to me.. Apparently Cam Levins really broke down too, tons of injuries etc.. He just seems way too addicted to the mileage, this video is disturbing to me :/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA</a>

https://www.runnersworld.com/rt-web-exclusive/doubling-and-tripling-performance-incentives

man I really hate this video.. it's bothering me alot. dude ate 1 fucking motts applesauce after a 10 mile run, and yet he knows he has like 20+ more miles including a hard workout ahead of him.

what the fuck man.

fuck his coach & any1 around him who didn't smack the shit out of him. he's a damn beast but this video is a great example of training addiction.

that's why i force myself to take rest days... and drink milk (protein/fat) after runs etc.

his style just seems so disordered to me.. ie, maybe he could somehow survive on it when he was younger, but as he is aging, he is falling apart.

KENYAN'S DONT DO THAT SHIT. that's all i know. they eat good, sleep, nap, train 2-3x/day but alternate hard/light days.. And Bernard Lagat takes 1 day off per week, mandatory, with 5-6 weeks off per year after his season.

:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

The thing with Cam Levins is .. he'll probably figure this out a few years from now, when he's "too old", and still make a run at something or make another olympics.. just because he'll reduce the volume a bit and eat better etc.

I saw a quote from some olympic track chick today, forget who, but it said in her bio:

things I hate: junk miles

loved that..

Cam Levins is addicted to junk miles.

Furthermore, towards the end of the vid, interviewer asks him if he'd go harder at night on his ez run because of his bad track session, and he admitted yes.. Again, Kenyan runners wouldn't do that. So much discipline.. so you had a bad session, who gives a fuck.. plus they don't look at their watch on light runs etc.

hold me back. ffs.

I watched the video. I liked how they showed the bad parts and all the preparation that goes into training. It was funny when his physio was trying to explain about what he does with trying to get the tightness out of the muscles- more of an art than a science but I understood. Also the toe bleeds. I'm not surprised he's got toe bleeds when he's running 190 miles some weeks. A marathon is 26.2 miles and Levin is running 190 miles a week- just insane. He's literally running a marathon every single day for some weeks.

http://www.all-athletics.com/node/173097

I wonder what he does for speed work?
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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #162 on: October 18, 2017, 06:54:45 am »
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toe...midfoot...heel

yea, beautiful.

and he's the slowest of the pack.........  :trollface:

other two have different form, which is what makes it an extra cool clip. white shirt is more traditional midfoot, yellow socks/nikes is more heel->toe.

the guy with more forefoot runs most graceful though, that's for sure.. looks amazing.

yeah i meant that one is landing toe-first, one midfoot-first, one heel-first. all clearly elite.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Misc Running Videos
« Reply #163 on: October 18, 2017, 11:17:19 am »
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toe...midfoot...heel

yea, beautiful.

and he's the slowest of the pack.........  :trollface:

other two have different form, which is what makes it an extra cool clip. white shirt is more traditional midfoot, yellow socks/nikes is more heel->toe.

the guy with more forefoot runs most graceful though, that's for sure.. looks amazing.

yeah i meant that one is landing toe-first, one midfoot-first, one heel-first. all clearly elite.

ahhhhh.. nice, my bad. also, funny how the order of toe->midfoot->heel, describes the first runner's strike itself, hah.

exactly.

yup, such a great clip.

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« Reply #164 on: October 18, 2017, 11:41:09 am »
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3x per day just doesn't seem sane/sustainable to me.. Apparently Cam Levins really broke down too, tons of injuries etc.. He just seems way too addicted to the mileage, this video is disturbing to me :/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA</a>

https://www.runnersworld.com/rt-web-exclusive/doubling-and-tripling-performance-incentives

man I really hate this video.. it's bothering me alot. dude ate 1 fucking motts applesauce after a 10 mile run, and yet he knows he has like 20+ more miles including a hard workout ahead of him.

what the fuck man.

fuck his coach & any1 around him who didn't smack the shit out of him. he's a damn beast but this video is a great example of training addiction.

that's why i force myself to take rest days... and drink milk (protein/fat) after runs etc.

his style just seems so disordered to me.. ie, maybe he could somehow survive on it when he was younger, but as he is aging, he is falling apart.

KENYAN'S DONT DO THAT SHIT. that's all i know. they eat good, sleep, nap, train 2-3x/day but alternate hard/light days.. And Bernard Lagat takes 1 day off per week, mandatory, with 5-6 weeks off per year after his season.

:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

The thing with Cam Levins is .. he'll probably figure this out a few years from now, when he's "too old", and still make a run at something or make another olympics.. just because he'll reduce the volume a bit and eat better etc.

I saw a quote from some olympic track chick today, forget who, but it said in her bio:

things I hate: junk miles

loved that..

Cam Levins is addicted to junk miles.

Furthermore, towards the end of the vid, interviewer asks him if he'd go harder at night on his ez run because of his bad track session, and he admitted yes.. Again, Kenyan runners wouldn't do that. So much discipline.. so you had a bad session, who gives a fuck.. plus they don't look at their watch on light runs etc.

hold me back. ffs.

I watched the video. I liked how they showed the bad parts and all the preparation that goes into training. It was funny when his physio was trying to explain about what he does with trying to get the tightness out of the muscles- more of an art than a science but I understood.

ya that was funny, typical s&c/physio magic. "I can't explain it to you, but I know it when I see it!". I'm personally wary of that kind of talk.

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Also the toe bleeds. I'm not surprised he's got toe bleeds when he's running 190 miles some weeks.

I wonder if he had been laying off track work, and decided to get in a session for the camera, so putting on his spikes wrecked him.

Just don't see how you could run 190 a week, BE INCREDIBLY FAST, and have toe issues like that pop up coincidentally on the day you're getting filmed.

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A marathon is 26.2 miles and Levin is running 190 miles a week- just insane. He's literally running a marathon every single day for some weeks.

it's impressive for sure, but he doesn't make it look appealing at all, in my opinion. He makes it look like a train wreck. I think for a guy like that, running a marathon worth of mileage per training day is absolutely no problem, but not if it's done 7 days a week. If he did that 5 days a week, to me that seems fine.. but 7 days? Just asking for trouble.

5 * 26 would have him at 130
5 * 30 would have him at 150

either of those seem fine to me, because it's the *5* that makes it work. He could do 10 miles in the morning, with warmup, speed work, cooldown, etc, then 16 miles light at night, hit his 26, then the next day go light and hit 13 in the morning, 13 at night, hit his 26, ... probably remain very healthy.

That "Nicolo" (el coyote loco) guy i posted a year back or so, got addicted to the mileage like Cam Levins and he got hurt. He fell off track completely. He was putting in 180-190 a week for a month, did a 5k race and wrecked his knee. He'd post videos of him just trying to get more junk miles in. That's when I realized these guys are nuts. They are trying to brute force their way to the top, instead of being more efficient.

TBH, it really bothers me. If they just toned it down a little bit, and had more rest days, these guys would probably be way better off. Why are they putting in more miles than Mo Farah, Kipchoge, etc? Do they really think that they are outworking everyone? Or are they really just digging themselves into a ditch? The story about some guy running 350+ miles a week is ridiculous.. You can go on strava and find people running 400+ miles per week - THEY RUN SLOW AS SHIT. It's impressive from one perspective, and ridiculous from another.

Everyone needs to learn from Bernard Lagat.. It's not his training that they should emulate, it's his dedication to "rest", "recovery", and long deload periods after the season. His longevity & consistency is so impressive. He mentions how runners he know, won't take a day off, that they think 1 day off will make them worse. This is a horrible mindset that permeates most of athletics.

Finally, the toe bleed stuff is emblematic of his mindset. Sure you're getting someone to film you, but fuck the rocky shit.. cut that session (and day) short & take care of yourself.

I guess I just see someone who "can't stop", "can't take a day off" .. and from my experience, and what i've seen online, that mindset always backfires eventually, because injuries creep in and force you to take months off.

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http://www.all-athletics.com/node/173097

I wonder what he does for speed work?

dno, lots of fast repeats from 200-1k I imagine. He's got some really strong ankles from some of those clips on the track: no heel touch in those spikes in alot of the footage, during km repeats. That's pretty major. He's got some serious speed, that's for sure.

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