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Sport Specific Training Discussion => 800m+ Running and/or Conditioning => Topic started by: adarqui on August 04, 2018, 03:22:29 pm

Title: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2018, 03:22:29 pm
these dudes are the prototype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4-OUIeJCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9lTJNSvUNE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvlFqXkOA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k-WqSt-lu0
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2018, 03:26:14 pm
Some beach2beacon 10k results/photos.

Jake wins in 27:37 .. 2nd place was 28:27. That's incredible given the level of competition out there. It was 100% humidity. Jake DGAF. He front ran the whole thing and just crushed everyone. Becoming a theme for him.

http://www.adarq.org/800m-running-andor-conditioning/the-misc-running-news-thread/msg143588/#msg143588

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2018, 06:25:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIRfjeTH_U

he's so locked in.
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 08, 2018, 08:40:21 pm
Jake winning a 1500m in Kenya in 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2n1_H7Q_A


Zane on the same day, think he got 4th on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpSITb-558w
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 08, 2018, 08:49:38 pm
Amazing interview with Zane Robertson.

droppin gems everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgXfvO3pu60
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 15, 2018, 09:26:31 pm
posted these in other threads but, should have just put them here.

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 21, 2018, 10:40:23 am
zane is back.

tons of great shots/footage on his ig.

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^^ check the splits with only 200m jog recovery.. insanity.

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Splits as Requested for 1kms🍌 200m jog recovery
2.48, 2.48, 2.47, 2.47, 2.47, 2.46, 2.47, 2.48, 2.47, 2.47, 2.46, 2.44 last one with progression and a smile! not a sprint ✊ altitude 2020m tambach
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 21, 2018, 12:20:01 pm
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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 25, 2018, 12:08:08 pm
absolute beasts.

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 25, 2018, 12:08:41 pm
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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 25, 2018, 12:19:41 pm
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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 28, 2018, 10:55:45 am
Zane mentioned he's now at "race weight", so I asked him. He says he races best at 63kg / 138lb.

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 29, 2018, 04:23:58 pm
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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on August 30, 2018, 07:05:09 pm
it's just so crazy how easy they make ~3:12-3:16 min/km look.

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: LBSS on August 31, 2018, 12:36:55 am
so much power. that was one of my key observations from the data gathered at the races last spring: the most glaring difference between the first km or two and the rest of the race for me is stride length. stride length comes from putting force into the ground. the cadence those guys are running at is chill, you can see the relaxation in their shoulders and faces. guess they're just traveling so far with each step. amazing.
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on September 01, 2018, 11:14:01 am
so much power. that was one of my key observations from the data gathered at the races last spring: the most glaring difference between the first km or two and the rest of the race for me is stride length. stride length comes from putting force into the ground. the cadence those guys are running at is chill, you can see the relaxation in their shoulders and faces. guess they're just traveling so far with each step. amazing.

yup. 100%.

stride freq is "overrated".

i've seen data on people running crazy fast at 17X SPM etc.

Kipchoge's breaking2 was like ~180-185 SPM @ 4:36 min/mi pace? that cadence is "deceiving" because of the ROM he gets each stride. just full strides, insane power. who knows I could be wrong about his cadence, but many long distance elites run 180-190 SPM and they are absolutely flying. You start to see 200+ as it gets down to 1 mile and below.

i often see people saying to focus on stride freq, not stride length.. which is correct in one respect: you shouldn't be trying to "lengthen" your stride while running. instead, should be doing training that makes you more powerful, giving you that extra distance per stride without forcing it, ie speed work etc.

during speed work, you can focus on increasing stride length by simply applying more force (going faster without increasing cadence), but not by consciously "lengthening it", IMHO.

so ya, the guys in these clips are just getting more length per stride at an easy effort, that's neurological to me. The CNS always shows it's powerful face :ninja:

you can be 180 SPM at short choppy strides vs 180 SPM at full ROM strides, two very different things.

pc!
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on September 24, 2018, 08:53:26 pm
Zane finally made his come back. 6th place in a 10 miler, some serious competition (especially Cheptegei).

46:XX @ Dam to Dam Loop (20k?)

says his last 10k was 27:50 lol. nuts.

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Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on November 27, 2018, 11:03:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAcg7KuTw7g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl7JZf05kqE
Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on February 21, 2019, 09:41:42 pm
sick.



and nice footage.

Title: Re: The Jake & Zane Robertson Thread
Post by: adarqui on March 02, 2019, 03:48:16 pm