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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #120 on: April 12, 2018, 05:44:44 pm »
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http://nateruns.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/my-current-training-plan.html

Nate Jenkins' general fitness/half-marathon plan. Must follow suit in adding more "muscle work" again. Can only help form and hopefully reduce injury proneness. Lessons to be learned even if it takes way more fitness than I have to be able to sustain this much work overall.
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2018, 10:01:21 pm »
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http://nateruns.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/my-current-training-plan.html

Nate Jenkins' general fitness/half-marathon plan. Must follow suit in adding more "muscle work" again. Can only help form and hopefully reduce injury proneness. Lessons to be learned even if it takes way more fitness than I have to be able to sustain this much work overall.

damn that's a serious schedule, elite volume/frequency, but ya he is a beast so..

as for the "muscle work", I love getting my bodyweight stuff in. it's definitely not as muscly as we're used to, but I do feel it helps (the single leg abductions/flexions/extensions especially). I'd like to do lunges again but i'd have to do them in a separate session I think. Doing them after I run seemed to inflame my knee & just make me too prone to soreness.

so ya just phase some of that stuff back in slowly if you do, or time it intelligently, ie when you're about to have 2 full days off from running because of schedule etc, then eventually on days where you're going to have one full day of rest before running again etc.

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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2018, 02:04:03 am »
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that is a LOT of volume.

clicked through to monaghetti fartlek, looks awesome.
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2018, 01:11:39 pm »
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kewl. sounds like something one would do naturally if pushing the on paces. ie, i'm sure i've done this exact fartlek before, naturally. seems very natural to me.

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2 mile easy warmup jog
2 x (90sec on, 90 sec off)
4 x (60 sec on, 60 sec off)
4 x (30 sec on, 30 sec off)
4 x (15 sec on, 15 sec off)
1-2 mile easy cooldown jog

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*The namesake: The workout was made famous by Aussie Steve Moneghetti, Bronze Medalist at the World Champs Marathon in 1997 among other hardware. Athletes around the world who race 1500 meters up to the marathon do the #Moneghetti to build endurance and develop speed at the same time. Knowing what a Moneghetti is pretty much makes you a hard core running fan, so that just happened.


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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #125 on: April 21, 2018, 06:32:51 am »
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2018, 09:34:58 am »
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http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/the-miracle-in-fukuoka-real-talk-from.html

First in a series of blog posts BY YUKI. The links to the other parts are in the above.

"I’ve always done 4 to 6-hour trail runs, but last summer I started doing a lot more of them. Using the Shin-Etsu Trail I ran longer than 45 km two days in a row and jogged more than 40 km three times in a single week. In the fall I even started doing ultra long-distance jogs on flat ground. In October I ran 100 km mostly along the Tone River from Shibukawa, Gunma to my house in about 7 1/2 hours. Leading up to Fukuoka I did a lot of 50 km jogs which I hadn’t usually done in the past."

oof! And his jogs aren't so slow. 100km in 7.5 hours is 4:30/km or 7:15/mile. I mean slow for him, of course, but I had got the impression from how others were talking about it that these jogs were like 10+/mile
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2018, 09:43:40 am »
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http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/the-miracle-in-fukuoka-real-talk-from.html

First in a series of blog posts BY YUKI. The links to the other parts are in the above.

"I’ve always done 4 to 6-hour trail runs, but last summer I started doing a lot more of them. Using the Shin-Etsu Trail I ran longer than 45 km two days in a row and jogged more than 40 km three times in a single week. In the fall I even started doing ultra long-distance jogs on flat ground. In October I ran 100 km mostly along the Tone River from Shibukawa, Gunma to my house in about 7 1/2 hours. Leading up to Fukuoka I did a lot of 50 km jogs which I hadn’t usually done in the past."

oof! And his jogs aren't so slow. 100km in 7.5 hours is 4:30/km or 7:15/mile. I mean slow for him, of course, but I had got the impression from how others were talking about it that these jogs were like 10+/mile

Sick quote (and very adarq) in the second part:

"There’s nothing better than being fast for being competitive, but there’s an element of being competitive that you can’t learn just from being fast."
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #128 on: April 21, 2018, 01:55:07 pm »
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http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/the-miracle-in-fukuoka-real-talk-from.html

First in a series of blog posts BY YUKI. The links to the other parts are in the above.

"I’ve always done 4 to 6-hour trail runs, but last summer I started doing a lot more of them. Using the Shin-Etsu Trail I ran longer than 45 km two days in a row and jogged more than 40 km three times in a single week. In the fall I even started doing ultra long-distance jogs on flat ground. In October I ran 100 km mostly along the Tone River from Shibukawa, Gunma to my house in about 7 1/2 hours. Leading up to Fukuoka I did a lot of 50 km jogs which I hadn’t usually done in the past."

oof! And his jogs aren't so slow. 100km in 7.5 hours is 4:30/km or 7:15/mile. I mean slow for him, of course, but I had got the impression from how others were talking about it that these jogs were like 10+/mile

Sick quote (and very adarq) in the second part:

"There’s nothing better than being fast for being competitive, but there’s an element of being competitive that you can’t learn just from being fast."

SICK.

this is absolute gold. gold x 1000.

I love how he talks about how he's good in the bad elements (rain/cold etc). I can identify with that. I love rain races. Hopefully if i'm healthy this summer (wasn't last summer), i'll get get some rainy 5k's in. :D

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There are those who look at that kind of ultra long-distance jogging and say, “Running slowly is meaningless no matter how much you do,” but I think the people who make that kind of criticism have probably never done it themselves. If you actually experience the feeling you get after about three hours, the “I can endure this fatigue in my legs, but if I lose it mentally I’ll immediately want to quit” one that’s similar to the light-headed sensation at the end of the marathon, the numbness of hands and feet and loss of concentration that come after that, the feeling that your stamina is evaporating from the core of your body, and the overpowering sense of euphoria you get after going over the wall, I don’t think you can call it “meaningless.”

The confidence that is built by doing ultra long-distance jogging, the knowledge in the second half when things are getting tough that “I’ve run 50 km and 100 km so I know for sure that my stamina isn’t going to break in the second half. The internationals running next to me haven’t done 100 km so I know that my legs are the ones that are still going to keep moving when things get down and dirty,” has really helped a person like me who tends to get discouraged easily.



This video is great (linked in one of the articles). Look at how bad Yuki is hurting. RUGGED. Matsumura is a beast too, i linked a few of his results in this subforum. Also, 4:38 in, a great lesson in running the tangents (following the shortest path line on the course). Yuki went way off of it, was in the lead, and then 2nd place guy simply saw the line and went to it, and instantly became the leader. If you watch probably ~4:20ish in, it happens around 4:38.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o2-vaWBOK0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o2-vaWBOK0</a>



I'm surprised he uses the phrase "armchair theorizing" .. seems like Yuki researches things deeply online..  :ninja:



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Times are something that are dependent on variables like race day weather and the way the race plays out. By doing dozens of marathons I’ve come to understand what those who came before me meant when they said, “More than time, the marathon is about competition.” So when the people backing these fast young guys tell them, “You have to run a good time in your debut,” the runners may be saying “sub-2:10 at a minimum” to try to live up to those expectations, but I think that in saying that they are probably stringing themselves up by the neck. If the goal is ultimately to run 2:05 or 2:06, I think that instead of saying, “Let’s rock the marathon right from the first time,” and jumping in only to die and taste the torments of hell, to suffer injury and trauma that will destroy your self-confidence, saying “Who cares what time you run in your debut? I want to be able to achieve my goal in the end,” and holding back to run at a pace that suits you will let you finish thinking, “Marathons are fun!” and let you run later marathons in a positive state of mind.

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think it’s also important to learn from the Japanese marathoners of the past. It seems like a lot of athletes these days believe too much in the way that the Africans and the Americans do things, but I don’t think that modern athletes who can’t better the times run by past Japanese athletes can rightfully call those past athletes’ training methodologies “outdated.” Needless to say not everything about the way that Japanese athletes trained in the past was correct, but I think there are more hints about how to get better to be found there than by looking at how Africans train.

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Every time I read them I found a number of things that could be helpful, but what I began to feel most strongly was that compared to the greats of the past the amount of “ultra long-distance training” I was doing seemed overwhelmingly insufficient.

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I began to feel that even if I were doing something similar to what Africans do, it would just be a lesser imitation of their approach.

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The surprise I felt at seeing the pre-race breakfast of a Kenyan Olympic medalist in New York and thinking, “They can run 42.195 km on such a small amount [of food]?”



just pasting some huge quotes because I like them.

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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #129 on: April 21, 2018, 02:01:41 pm »
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I think there's definitely something to the "slow long jogging" approach. I've benefited from it several times, plus, it helps you stay healthier perhaps. I mean as an example, the tweaks i've had recently, I was able to jog below "tweak threshold" and still maintain/gain fitness. My ULTRA SLOW long running seems to have some serious potential, 15-20 min/mi pace but feeling like you're really running hard/fast -> short GCT, stiff but relaxed contacts, basically hours of single leg alternating pogos.

but ya, i've been slowly trying to bump up my long easy jogs. after my Coral Springs half, I wanted to make all of my easy runs ~1.5 hours. I've basically done that since, and it seems to be creeping up towards 2 hours. I've had thoughts recently of trying to get to 4 hours. I mean, if I can walk for 4-6 hours, I should be able to slow jog just the same.. maybe not the intense pogo style, but something similar to it (just less intense).

ALSO, it must be stated!! This stuff most likely has to happen on soft surfaces, not roads. It has to be dirt/grass/rocks/mulch etc, not concrete/asphalt. This is what allows you to maintain bounce, rather than having the hard surfaces "sap it out of you". Extremely important IMHO.

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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #130 on: May 08, 2018, 11:39:34 am »
+1
https://twitter.com/stevemagness/status/993861318808567808

Not quite an article but interesting exchange here between Nick Willis and Steve Magness + some fun data.
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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2018, 08:46:40 pm »
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damn forgot to check that ^^ will do now.

also, crazy stuff with Ryan Shay's death, myocarditis, caused by a virus: (happened in like 2008)

"When you look at those muscle cells, you don't see normal, neatly stacked cells like the bricks in a brick wall. Instead, you see swirling, disoriented cells. This sounds more like viral myocarditis resulting from scars that were left by a virus. What happens is, the heart sends out a typical electrical impulse, but it hits scar tissue and then circles around or bounces back through the heart, which we call 'circus arrhythmia.' If this develops into a ventricular arrhythmia, it's very dangerous, and can cause sudden death."

https://www.runnersworld.com/footloose/joe-shay-ryans-autopsy-report-was-like-a-catch-22

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Re: Various Running Articles
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2018, 07:58:32 pm »
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Dick Beardsley was a damn beast.

https://deadspin.com/what-was-so-special-about-dick-beardsley-1771327930

he liked to race every weekend.. my kind of guy!

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He ran everything near the red line, the prevailing philosophy being to go as hard as you could. If you blew up, you blew up. There was another race next weekend.

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« Reply #133 on: May 14, 2018, 04:14:38 pm »
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Great article! It discusses one of my favorite photographs, which they recently found to be incredible as well - and worthy of writing a blog post about.

http://www.traininkenya.com/2018/05/14/kenyan-running-success-breeds-success/