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Dreyth

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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 01:28:54 pm »
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sounds interesting. this got me thinking.

is it bad if my knees collapse inward a bit on a running 2 legged jump? i can't possible imagine myself not letting that happen.
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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 02:42:17 pm »
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It probably is bad... it's probably your body deciding to do that to compensate for some weakness/structural stuff. Don't know.

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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 04:33:54 pm »
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I agree with Bret Contreras. The best way to fix a crappy movement is to do the movement correctly. This can be accomplished by concentrating really hard and getting feedback - ideally from a coach but at least from video. If the movement to be improved is a resisted one, proper weight selection is key. While merely getting stronger often does not fix movement inefficiencies, inefficient execution certainly prevents strength to be developed in those areas where the inefficiencies take place. This in turn can lead to serious problems in performing an exercise with proper form AND maximal weights. Fixing stuff like this can take a lot of patience and hard work. So better do stuff correctly from the beginning.

Regarding why bad form develops in the first place, there is something to be said about proper and improper exercise selection. Some people convince themselves that one exercise is what they want to "specialize" in or what is "most important" for their goals. Often this is the bench-press, around here it certainly is the squat for many people. But no matter how great that exercise is, it will NOT cover all the bases. And when you are new to training this can be very hard to realize because it's a short-term vs. long-term thing. For example, if a beginner would want to improve his VJ during the next three months, the best thing he could probably do is squat heavy 2-3 times per week and invest the rest of his resources into jump training. Doing other stuff as well might cut into resources that he does not have. But when you plan to train and improve over a long period of time, then doing a well-rounded training program that gets the whole body stronger, is the best thing you can do. Bad motor stuff due to specific weak areas is less likely to develop and you open up a lot of training options for later. Excess strength, that you do not necessarily need in your sport, will rarely hurt you much and it might come in really handy somewhere down the road.

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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 05:06:51 pm »
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I completely agree, but the trick is identifying what the weakness is and then choosing and correctly executing the right exercise to combat that.

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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 07:39:14 pm »
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it's slightly contradictory what he says. He says to work on good technique during an exercise, go lighter perhaps, and practice that, but that is making the weaker muscles in the movement stronger anyway.. he says this isn't about strength it's just about the motor patterns, but they are tied together.. I used to have valgus collapse during leg presses and squats but practicing with good form has completely cured that. I would say all I did is proper strength training with good form, which is also neuromuscular training.
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Bret Contreras' article about exercise form
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 11:10:07 pm »
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it's slightly contradictory what he says. He says to work on good technique during an exercise, go lighter perhaps, and practice that, but that is making the weaker muscles in the movement stronger anyway.. he says this isn't about strength it's just about the motor patterns, but they are tied together.. I used to have valgus collapse during leg presses and squats but practicing with good form has completely cured that. I would say all I did is proper strength training with good form, which is also neuromuscular training.

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