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Performance Area => Article & Video Discussion => Topic started by: LBSS on September 27, 2012, 04:46:05 pm
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sup. so here are the squats i did on tuesday. any input on form, in particular specific points of weakness, is welcome.
thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMx2gx0EvWc
forgive the obscene language at the end. :P
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They look pretty good. I think the form was actually better with the heavy weight, with the light weight you were rounding your lowerback but you probably were getting really really low vs the heavy weight.
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awesome form, you give me motivation. what shoes ru wearing?
and i literally said "holy shit" when you said "fuCKK" because that's literally how i always say it every time :o
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There's no front or back angle, so I can't be sure, but I think you need to focus more on keeping your knees out. The way they shoot forward when you hit the bottom position is what is giving me that feeling, your hips just need some more space to get that deep.
Another thing that isn't necessarily an improvement, but may help you squat heavier is to think about squatting with your hips. Yours is looking quite close to what Rippetoe would call a "standing leg press" at the moment. It looks like you start the movement with the knees, instead of with the hips.
Looking pretty damn solid overall, though. Pretty much all my criticisms don't apply if you are doing high bar.
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looks damn good to me. :ibsquatting:
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There's no front or back angle, so I can't be sure, but I think you need to focus more on keeping your knees out. The way they shoot forward when you hit the bottom position is what is giving me that feeling, your hips just need some more space to get that deep.
Another thing that isn't necessarily an improvement, but may help you squat heavier is to think about squatting with your hips. Yours is looking quite close to what Rippetoe would call a "standing leg press" at the moment. It looks like you start the movement with the knees, instead of with the hips.
Looking pretty damn solid overall, though. Pretty much all my criticisms don't apply if you are doing high bar.
you got the form part done. :headbang:
.. id suggest you use a little lesser weight to get to x6-8 reps = higher tonnage. increase food intake. squat more.
good job! report back when you hit the 4plate mark.
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Damn near prettiest squats i've seen in a long time.
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second what Joe said. W/out front or back angle or EMG data can't say anything. and what shoes are those?
Provide a timeline of your progress in squat vs. SVJ. From what I remember you are insanely strong in squat but you said your SVJ wasn't improving much. In that case the last thing you need to do is squat with your hips. I switched to narrow(er) stance squats, slightly less than shoulder width, and it's been strengtening my quads way more and vj improving. but I can't say much until I get to 3 plates and am jumping consistently above 40 which I rpedict would happen with my new squat form.
How far are your feet apart? And where do you feel it? (I've worked with individuals who have perfect looking squat form, due to their bone structure, who don't feel it where I do really so the narrow stance may not work for increased quad activation for everyone). why are you even asking for a form check. are you doing low bar or high bar? and where the f do you train, in dc?
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second what Joe said. W/out front or back angle or EMG data can't say anything. and what shoes are those?
"or EMG data" lololol :F
+10 :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Provide a timeline of your progress in squat vs. SVJ. From what I remember you are insanely strong in squat but you said your SVJ wasn't improving much. In that case the last thing you need to do is squat with your hips. I switched to narrow(er) stance squats, slightly less than shoulder width, and it's been strengtening my quads way more and vj improving. but I can't say much until I get to 3 plates and am jumping consistently above 40 which I rpedict would happen with my new squat form.
i too felt alot of improvement with narrow stances.
How far are your feet apart? And where do you feel it? (I've worked with individuals who have perfect looking squat form, due to their bone structure, who don't feel it where I do really so the narrow stance may not work for increased quad activation for everyone). why are you even asking for a form check. are you doing low bar or high bar? and where the f do you train, in dc?
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second what Joe said. W/out front or back angle or EMG data can't say anything. and what shoes are those?
"or EMG data" lololol :F
+10 :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Provide a timeline of your progress in squat vs. SVJ. From what I remember you are insanely strong in squat but you said your SVJ wasn't improving much. In that case the last thing you need to do is squat with your hips. I switched to narrow(er) stance squats, slightly less than shoulder width, and it's been strengtening my quads way more and vj improving. but I can't say much until I get to 3 plates and am jumping consistently above 40 which I rpedict would happen with my new squat form.
i too felt alot of improvement with narrow stances.
Re hip squatting, I suppose I was still thinking as a lifter and not a jumper.
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Damn Avishek has come a long way in both athletic improvements and stuff that he writes. Good job man!
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thanks everyone! good inputs.
shoes are rogue do-wins.
@joe: first, glad to see you're still alive. second, the knee thing is not super worrisome to me. i squat kind of mid-bar, not high or low, but my proportions lend themselves to a more high-bar-style squat: more upright torso, knees forward, well past parallel depth. and i don't feel like i'm breaking first at the knees. not sure what would change if i started focusing more on leading with the hip break?
@avishek and adarq: feet are shoulder-width. i feel the squats pretty much everywhere, although biased more towards calves/hamstrings/glutes than towards quads. that used not to be the case, i think my stance has widened a couple of inches this year and i do feel it less in my quads than i used to. not entirely sure why. any thoughts about the relative advantages of one vs. the other for running jumps? i never seriously test or practice SVJ so not sure what to tell you there. it is much, much worse than my DLRVJ. like 8-10 inches worse, if i had to guess. i'm asking for a form check just in case there's something in there i'm not seeing because i'm myself. also because sometimes you get good thoughts or recommendations like the ones in this thread, that wouldn't come out if i just said, "hey, how should i squat?"
i train at balance kalorama, but not for much longer because it's closing in november. looking for a new gym at the moment.
@kf: higher reps, you say? sounds good to me. 3x8. yes.
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Cant really tell anything without an overhead angle/ fish eyes lens and slow mo/music edited in, birth certificate, social security card, and also get a muscle biopsy done.
From first glance they look really good though.
edit: its not mandatory, but if you can hook yourself up to a polygraph machine when squatting next time it will be easier to give proper feedback.
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Cant really tell anything without an overhead angle/ fish eyes lens and slow mo/music edited in, birth certificate, social security card, and also get a muscle biopsy done.
From first glance they look really good though.
edit: its not mandatory, but if you can hook yourself up to a polygraph machine when squatting next time it will be easier to give proper feedback.
man, the next time i tape squats it's going to be really complicated. i'll do my best, man.
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Guys is my depth ok?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9IqMi4xII
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Cant really tell anything without an overhead angle/ fish eyes lens and slow mo/music edited in, birth certificate, social security card, and also get a muscle biopsy done.
From first glance they look really good though.
edit: its not mandatory, but if you can hook yourself up to a polygraph machine when squatting next time it will be easier to give proper feedback.
lmao
Guys is my depth ok?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9IqMi4xII
need a back angle.