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scoobychau

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I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« on: March 23, 2015, 02:39:28 am »
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http://www.just-fly-sports.com/interview-with-jordan-kilganon/

Over Train? um....

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Jordan Kilganon:  My advice to anyone who wants to become a dunker, is to start off dunking 1-2 hours 3 times a week and to slowly progress to 3-4 hours a day almost every day. If you’re legs aren’t sore as hell the day after, it means you need to dunk more/longer next time…The way my training worked was that I would dunk 3-4 hours every day for a week to even a month, and anytime I wanted to see results, I would rest 2-3 days.  Every time I rested, it was my next best jumping day, I saw results, rarely I didn’t see a difference.


(one of my local dunking buddies just jumped like 130 times in 2 days... When i ask him why.. he send me that link)
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2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
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Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 05:11:41 am »
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Also don't forget to do calf raises ( AUT's secret to success ) , and also a lot of static stretching ( Ziani's secret ).

:ffffffuuuuuu:

Scooby, you are too many years in this thing to be carried away from such BS. Kilganon is a freak of nature, even if he used pizza+milkshake+playstation for vertical jump training, he would still be out-jumping most of us. Not underestimating his work, he has worked his ass off to improve his dunking skills, but his hops come from sweet mother nature.
Check his videos, at 16 years old he was already throwing tomahawks at 10'.
Also, go to a court, spot a few kids. They run and jump day after day for hours. Why can't they dunk?
Finally, about having dead sore legs as an indicator for progress, hm, how about marathons? They sure kill the legs, will they help us jump higher?

I highly respect all those amazing dunkers, but when they give such advice it is outraging. To me they are disrespecting nature for not acknowledging the gift, they are also underestimating our intelligence: are we so dump that we could just go out and jump and get the results but instead we choose to spend hours of pain under the heavy iron?

TLDR version : Kilganon's advice is scientifically illiterate.
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scoobychau

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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 06:17:31 am »
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pizza+milkshake+playstation for vertical jump training

haha

i just post that not saying I agree...
but i always appreciate Vag reply


I agree with u about... amazing dunker giving out bad advice...
On the other hand, I believe  JustFly sport performance... also SELL program too..


which make people wonder....
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

~SACRIFICE~
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
YOU'VE NEVER DONE! (by Thomas Jefferson)

ChrisM

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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 10:13:47 pm »
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I believe there's a saying that goes something like this:

"most elite athletes are elite despite their training, not because of it"

;)


That said...hidden in that interview is some solid advice.... GO FUCKIN JUMP DAMMIT. :)
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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 01:05:19 am »
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I got my 33.5" vert from just jumping, so he may have a point.

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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 05:43:32 am »
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I did not say you won't gain anything from jumping. On the contrary, you must never neglect the actual jumping when you are training for... jumping, that is self-explanatory.
I also did not doubt that if he had not jumped that much he would be jumping lower.
Kilganon is not just another dude that got to add 5-10'' to his jumps, he is arguably the best dunker on the planet and his maximum RVJ is a world class +50''.
Many young kids will look up to him. That is why the advice "just dunk a lot every day" annoys me, it is misleading.
I do believe your n=1 experience that got you to 33'' by just jumping. But that does not change the jump-training science basic facts:
YES, if you jump a lot you will improve your vert some.
YES, people that are naturally strong can go a longer way by just jumping.
But, sooner or later, you will have to strength-train if you want to approach your potential.
Even Kilganon, if a professional coach took him, be sure he would have him strength-train too. He does not have to because he is already over 50'' so why bother. But if he had to chase his full potential and do it right, be sure the squat rack would become his good friend too.
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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 08:13:16 am »
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Jordan has mentioned in the last year he has started weight training and it did help improve his vert, noticeably in the SVJ and 1 step categories. There is no secret to jumping...strength+speed+movement efficiency=flying. The only "black magic" is in balancing strength vs speed.
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Re: I Jump 2 hours per days, That's why I Jump high..
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2015, 04:28:21 pm »
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Actually, I talked with him some time ago and he had his deadlift at pretty much the same level as me after training for 3 weeks or so, not 8 years like I have.