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Performance Area => Article & Video Discussion => Topic started by: adarqui on July 04, 2010, 03:03:23 am
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all about polyphasic sleep, mostly negatives: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic.htm
nice link http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2007/03/polyphasic-sleep-one-year-later/
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I wanted to try this shit out, does not really fit with a high school schedule though, heh.
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I wanted to try this shit out, does not really fit with a high school schedule though, heh.
don't try it.. it's rubbish.
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YO!!!
i tried this, its only rubbish for the 1st few weeks when your body adapts to the sleeping pattern. probably not recommended for peak performace workin out, but if u wanna research dream land, then its perfect. i did 20min naps every 4hours, it was intense the 1st few days, overnappin and feelin real tired. after a few weeks, the naps started feelin different, sumtimes id fall asleep str8 away and the second i fell asleep i heard the 20min alarm go off, that freaked me out a few times. other times id wake up at the alarm and it would feel like iv been asleep for hours. the best times were wat is called hypnogogia, inbtween sleep. id feel my body go sleep, but my mind wanders, and wat i was thinkin about turned into a semi dream, real quick flashes of lucidity, and sumtimes wen i kept focus i could b lucid for a few mintues.
polyphasic is pretty cool if you hav an empty schedule, and you wana amillion more minutes in your day. i was learnin spanish, and studyin freeman law xD i cudnt keep it up kuz it was messin wiv the relationship, i like fallen asleep wiv my lady and wakin up next to her, i started missin it too much to carry on xD learnt alot about my body through this, that switchover between wake/sleep is an interesting phaze.
The main goal for at all is REM sleep, and from some stuff i read thats when most of the tissue rebuilding happens, so with enough time your body can adapt to hit rem every 20 min nap, givin u 2hours of dream/rebuid time throughout the day. sounds good in theory, u jus gotta giv urself enough time to adapt.
xD
pieca peace
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YO!!!
i tried this, its only rubbish for the 1st few weeks when your body adapts to the sleeping pattern. probably not recommended for peak performace workin out, but if u wanna research dream land, then its perfect. i did 20min naps every 4hours, it was intense the 1st few days, overnappin and feelin real tired. after a few weeks, the naps started feelin different, sumtimes id fall asleep str8 away and the second i fell asleep i heard the 20min alarm go off, that freaked me out a few times. other times id wake up at the alarm and it would feel like iv been asleep for hours. the best times were wat is called hypnogogia, inbtween sleep. id feel my body go sleep, but my mind wanders, and wat i was thinkin about turned into a semi dream, real quick flashes of lucidity, and sumtimes wen i kept focus i could b lucid for a few mintues.
polyphasic is pretty cool if you hav an empty schedule, and you wana amillion more minutes in your day. i was learnin spanish, and studyin freeman law xD i cudnt keep it up kuz it was messin wiv the relationship, i like fallen asleep wiv my lady and wakin up next to her, i started missin it too much to carry on xD learnt alot about my body through this, that switchover between wake/sleep is an interesting phaze.
The main goal for at all is REM sleep, and from some stuff i read thats when most of the tissue rebuilding happens, so with enough time your body can adapt to hit rem every 20 min nap, givin u 2hours of dream/rebuid time throughout the day. sounds good in theory, u jus gotta giv urself enough time to adapt.
xD
pieca peace
wow, amazing that someone actually did this.. great insight pope!
i imagine the worst thing would definitely be having that schedule conflict with your job, family, girlfriend, etc, like you said.. it would end up making things very difficult.. if you are a solo loner with not much obligations, sounds like it could be pretty cool, except how you say you wouldn't do it if you were into peak performance etc..
one thing i noticed since starting long distance running again, is that i am sleeping less every night.. but i feel alert/rested when i wake up.. i've been requiring 9 hours or so sleep for months, now i keep waking up with 7-8 feeling pretty good.
peace man, thanks for this post
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one thing i noticed since starting long distance running again, is that i am sleeping less every night.. but i feel alert/rested when i wake up.. i've been requiring 9 hours or so sleep for months, now i keep waking up with 7-8 feeling pretty good.
peace man, thanks for this post
no problems mayn,
one thing i noticed since startin this jump program is i half wake up in the middle of the night and get sum cereal xD
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I did this before, actually I'm in that phase where you're getting back to normal sleep again. Definitely was weird, I think my personality changed and I was really tired all the time. -It's hard to get back to normal when you've done this for like half a year. I loved those naps, felt really good, especially in class. My family hated me though and they always screamed like bitches lol.
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I did this before, actually I'm in that phase where you're getting back to normal sleep again. Definitely was weird, I think my personality changed and I was really tired all the time. -It's hard to get back to normal when you've done this for like half a year. I loved those naps, felt really good, especially in class. My family hated me though and they always screamed like bitches lol.
i am amazed that two people have done this on this forum.. i never thought i'd run into anyone who has tried that.
haha..
what made you want to try that out? how did you come across it?
pc
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sickk
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it's not rubbish. i'll elaborate on my background in multiphase sleep later but in short, think about this, babies/new borns do multiphase sleep! they do not eat on schedule or sleep on schedule. they eat when ever they are hungry and they sleep whenever they are tired and need to rebuild energy. it is 100% natural. humans are habitual animals, when we conditioned ourselves into the same shits we tend to find it hard to change, but only at first. once you are used to multiphase sleep it'll feel completely normal; except the society will think of you as crazy. :-)
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YO!!!
i tried this, its only rubbish for the 1st few weeks when your body adapts to the sleeping pattern. probably not recommended for peak performace workin out, but if u wanna research dream land, then its perfect. i did 20min naps every 4hours, it was intense the 1st few days, overnappin and feelin real tired. after a few weeks, the naps started feelin different, sumtimes id fall asleep str8 away and the second i fell asleep i heard the 20min alarm go off, that freaked me out a few times. other times id wake up at the alarm and it would feel like iv been asleep for hours. the best times were wat is called hypnogogia, inbtween sleep. id feel my body go sleep, but my mind wanders, and wat i was thinkin about turned into a semi dream, real quick flashes of lucidity, and sumtimes wen i kept focus i could b lucid for a few mintues.
yep yep. you're doing it right. one thing about polyphase sleep is that body recovery efficiency seems to be at the maximum. i love it when the body goes to sleep, but the mind is still clear. you can hear all your friends conversations, and 5 minutes later when you are able to move your body you talk to them it was as if you were awake. it freaks my friends out. lol. they think i'm crazy.
polyphasic is pretty cool if you hav an empty schedule, and you wana amillion more minutes in your day. i was learnin spanish, and studyin freeman law xD i cudnt keep it up kuz it was messin wiv the relationship, i like fallen asleep wiv my lady and wakin up next to her, i started missin it too much to carry on xD learnt alot about my body through this, that switchover between wake/sleep is an interesting phaze.
The main goal for at all is REM sleep, and from some stuff i read thats when most of the tissue rebuilding happens, so with enough time your body can adapt to hit rem every 20 min nap, givin u 2hours of dream/rebuid time throughout the day. sounds good in theory, u jus gotta giv urself enough time to adapt.
xD
pieca peace
definitely gained a bunch of extra times to do things.
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multi phase sleep update...
Posted on March 11, 2011 by ghettoracer
by Frank M. Lin
I sort of caught the flu virus that's been going around in Taiwan (or maybe not). Nothing serious, no fever or headache or body aches. Just running nose for like a week. Actually, I think I brought it upon myself... Normally after a hot spring session you're suppose to hit the cold shower (or in my case I dipped in the cold water tank one last time before towel drying myself) to close up all the pores on your skin (???) so that when the wind blows on you, you won't catch a cold. Well, that one day two weeks ago I got out of the hot tank, and just dried myself. So I ended up sweating a lot, with my pores wide open, and I rode scooter down the hill with my jacket open... and this is most likely how I got the running nose, and not from a virus.
In any case, the running nose made me slept a lot more than usual. One day I actually slept for like 14 hours and just didn't feeling like moving or doing anything but snuggle up in bed. That was around Feb. 25th, 2011 or so and today is already March 10th, 2011. So not much multi phase sleeping anymore as my night rests are back to minimum of 6 hours a night. When I wake up from the sleeping sessions I no longer feel refreshed and rejuvenated. Which means the sleeping quality is no longer intense and powerful like during actual multi phase sleep.
Looking back, this period of multi phase sleep started around November 2010. What kicked it off was when I started to move my bed time from past 1am to 11pm. In TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) philosophy, 11pm-1am is critical time for body repair. It is the natural body cycle/time for the liver to regenerate itself. If you don't believe it, try to to sleep by 10pm for a week and you should feel like you need a lot less sleep and you wake up much more refreshed. I notice that, by doing chikong and/or yoga (there are many methods that will directly or indirectly increase your chi/energy levels) I'm less bound by the rule that require me to rest during the 11pm-1am repair time. During the multi phase sleep periods the best thing seems to be the body is never fatigued. Even if I was running and playing full court basketball for 4 hours a day. All I would need is a 10-15 minute power nap after the game, and all my energy is back!! The feeling is quite amazing.
Basically for me, when I'm in the multi phase sleep state (MPSS) the entire body seems to be operating at peak efficiency. During a lot of these power nap sessions, my mind actually still awake and alert. I would describe the feeling as the body needed to stop its movements for a little while, and especially the eyes needs to be closed. In MPSS when I'm feeling tired, closing the eyes makes a HUGE difference. Even just shutting the eyes half way I can feel the energy requirement needed to keep the eyes processing the information - think about it, shut the eye lids down half or even 75% and the imagery is drastically reduced, thus reduced energy needed to operate it. This is all just my own theory of course. I'd have to check it against other people's experiences and flip through older texts to see what other people's experiences are like. This is fun stuff for sure.
So when I'm in serious MPSS phase, some days there would be no one major sleep block at all. It would basically be power naps every 3-4 hours on average. These sleep sessions are super intense, often 10-15 minutes in time, and frequently it is shorter, like 5 minutes. I would completely lose the feeling of time - 5 minutes could feel like an hour! Is that cool or what? I guess some might say that's disorientation at work and in a way they are right. I'd freak my friends out a lot haha... I'd be like, sorry dudes, I need to crash for 5 minutes. I would seem to be asleep, but yet my brain is alert and my ears are functioning and I can wake up 5 minutes later, and still join their conversation. They'd freak out be like, dude I thought you were completely knocked out you looked dead asleep. Hahaha...
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so i've been out of MPSS for over a month. but yesterday was the first time i woke up at 6:30am in 4+ weeks. and last night i slept at 2:30am (after doing a late 10:30pm-12:30am hot spring session with lots of stretching and yoga, ~15 minutes of meditation). got up at 6am this morning again. i'm happy! finger crossed on getting back into MPSS state.
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I was thinking about doing this in the summer. Really all i have is training, eating, sleeping and optional studying,
Is this condusive for a period of time where you are seriously training. Will it allow for you to speed up your recovery etc.
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I can not speak for others but for me, I feel that it is perfectly fine. During my most recently MPSS I felt great and I was playing a lot of bball, and weight training 2-3 times a week and it felt fine. Lot of people that train heavy talk about getting plenty of sleep however I think what is important is the quality, not the quantity of the sleep. To me MPSS = high quality sleep. That's why the sleep sessions while short feels so wonderful. I must say that I did not gain any notable amount of muscles during MPSS. However my body grows muscles really slowly anyway...
I don't know if you can force MPSS to happen right away, you have to kind of easy into it I suppose. I think it's really just listening and feeling what your body is telling you. For me, getting it to a tired state seems to help. Being able to clear the mind also seems to help as well. Meditation for example, seems to change the feeling of time a great deal. Sometimes it feels really fast, sometimes it feels really slow...
Since it is the summer I'd say just experiment and see how it goes. =) Just like training logs here, it would be helpful to start a sleep log as well.
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My 8 hours of sleep works fine for 33 years. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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obviously you didn't read the links andrew posted up top. why did you even bother to reply? please don't troll here. if you are not interested in this subject, just leave it alone.
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obviously you didn't read the links andrew posted up top. why did you even bother to reply?
what make u think i didn't.
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because your previous post added pretty much zero contribution to the thread.
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ooh really?? By saying the current sleep pattern works pretty well for most of the people in the worlds doesn't contribute anything? If the 8 hours pattern sleep doesn't works, we won't be adopting this sleep pattern long time ago.
Edit:It is also because I can only contribute positive stuff, any skepticism is counted as not contribution or trolling?