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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 02:20:51 am »
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  That dude has a heart  bigger than the stadium hes running in.
Relax.

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 07:36:12 am »
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  That dude has a heart  bigger than the stadium hes running in.

Do you think that's due to high volume cardio?

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 07:46:48 am »
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Nice video. He's an inspirational dude. It'd be really interesting to see how he trains and what methods he uses to increase his speed.
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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 08:30:31 am »
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  That dude has a heart  bigger than the stadium hes running in.

Do you think that's due to high volume cardio?

lol
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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 01:36:17 pm »
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I remember we debated whether or not he should run in the olympics a while back. Same argument everyone has about him having an advantage with the springs. No conclusive evidence in either direction though, but I say it shouldn't be a problem. At least not now. In my mind it's leveled out, because even though the springs don't lose nearly as much energy as an achilles tendon, he's missing the entire active component that other runners have to give them more spring. He has to compensate through the rest of his legs and especially his core to keep his legs high, that and his arm swing has to be harder and tighter than others just to keep him balanced. Until there's conclusive evidence in either direction I'll continue to be inspired by the man. Just the fact that he puts a smile on kids with a similar condition and gives them a little hope makes me like him.

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012, 09:40:28 am »
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I remember we debated whether or not he should run in the olympics a while back. Same argument everyone has about him having an advantage with the springs. No conclusive evidence in either direction though, but I say it shouldn't be a problem. At least not now. In my mind it's leveled out, because even though the springs don't lose nearly as much energy as an achilles tendon, he's missing the entire active component that other runners have to give them more spring. He has to compensate through the rest of his legs and especially his core to keep his legs high, that and his arm swing has to be harder and tighter than others just to keep him balanced. Until there's conclusive evidence in either direction I'll continue to be inspired by the man. Just the fact that he puts a smile on kids with a similar condition and gives them a little hope makes me like him.

WRONG. http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/08/pistorius-12-sec-advantage-and.html

This is still true, though:

Quote from: Sports Illustrated article
"What Oscar has done represents for a lot of people an unwillingness to accept expectations others might impose on you," Weyand says. "And that part is inspiring and makes you feel great about human nature."
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 01:47:43 pm »
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I was wondering when you'd show up with that article. Same one you had posted before. What I'm wondering is why he's still running if the evidence is so conclusive as they say. USATF and IAAF are organizations that disqualify people from running over too much caffeine. It's not something they take lightly. If they really do give him that big of an advantage, and it's been shown in research, why are they still letting him run?

When the time comes that he's actually a concern for a medal or even finals, then I'll be worried about it. So far he isn't really affecting anything with his times, so I don't see why it should be such a big concern.

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 02:45:30 pm »
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I was wondering when you'd show up with that article. Same one you had posted before. What I'm wondering is why he's still running if the evidence is so conclusive as they say. USATF and IAAF are organizations that disqualify people from running over too much caffeine. It's not something they take lightly. If they really do give him that big of an advantage, and it's been shown in research, why are they still letting him run?

hell if i know why they are, but there was pretty obviously a political decision to ignore the main thrust of weyand's and bundle's findings. maybe they figured he'd be good for the sport financially.

Quote from: Science of Sport
There is the argument that the CAS-proceeding determined a very narrow approach to the scientific question, which had really only one goal - to disprove the IAAF's findings.  In other words, the CAS process was not interested in the entire truth, but only in evaluating the evidence gathered by the IAAF.  And there's no question that the IAAF started off with a very narrow research question.

By extension, Pistorius' scientific team were interested only in the "truth" that would, among other things, eventually see them add distance runners to the control group until Pistorius looked similar to able-bodied athletes.  Effectively, the previous research had "set the bar" and they jumped over it, using the methods I explained yesterday.  A narrow finding got even narrower, and the whole truth did not emerge when it could have.  In all this, there was reason to suggest an advantage but the scientists did not make it known at the time, even if it was only for the purposes of debate.

Taking this into account, and adding in the fact that the research to clear Pistorius had very obvious omissions and false comparisons with distance runners when they knew what the sprinter-comparison would have revealed, you start to see that things really were not what they appeared to be with this "independent scientific process".  You may make up your own minds about what it means when scientists selectively leave out able-bodied sprinters and compare a sprinter to distance runners?  Or what it means when scientists recognize the possible advantage but fail to mention it at a hearing on advantages?  It strikes me as strange at best, manipulative bordering on dishonest at worst.

right-o.

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When the time comes that he's actually a concern for a medal or even finals, then I'll be worried about it. So far he isn't really affecting anything with his times, so I don't see why it should be such a big concern.

are you serious? he's doing something fundamentally different from what able-bodied runners are doing. seems a bit ridiculous to say that he should be allowed to compete until he gets faster at the thing he's doing than they are at what they're doing. you could race a motorcycle against a boat, but if the motorcycle won you wouldn't call it the faster of two boats.
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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2012, 11:00:34 pm »
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So, just for scientific porpouses, we could chop ussain bolt legs and give him porsthetics.

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2012, 10:33:39 am »
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/disability-sport/19460868

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Oscar Pistorius says he wants tougher regulations on the length of running blades after suffering a shock loss in the final of the Paralympic T44 200m.

 The South African was beaten by Alan Oliveira but claimed the Brazilian's prosthetic legs are too long.

"We are not running in a fair race here," Pistorius told Channel 4.

"I don't know how you can come back, watching the replay, from eight metres behind on the 100 to win. It's absolutely ridiculous."

Pistorius was overhauled in the final 20 metres as the 20-year-old Oliveira won in 21.45 seconds.

 "Not taking away from Alan's performance, but these guys are a lot taller and you can't compete," added Pistorius, who was second in 21.52.

"I gave it my best. The guys are just running ridiculous times and they're able to do so."

And some sort of apology, but only about the timing of his comments, not the content:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/disability-sport/19462059


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« Last Edit: September 03, 2012, 10:38:27 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2012, 10:50:42 pm »
+1
pot, meet kettle.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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