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Title: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on October 26, 2018, 12:10:52 am
soon!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on October 26, 2018, 12:11:46 am
tbh, i really created this thread to post stuff about Zion.

DUKE SCHEDULE:

https://www.google.com/search?ei=gJPSW-XPD4blkgWfloZo&q=ncaa+standings+basketball&oq=ncaa+standings+basketball&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l2j0i22i30l8.24861.26163..26275...0.0..1.186.1235.3j8......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i131j0i67j0i10j0i22i10i30.evRTOJ4wNYQ#sie=t;/m/026wlnm;3;/g/11ckvf54fz;mt;fp;1

DUKE VS KENTUCKY, November 6th, season opener!!!



i can't wait to see this dude play in the real season.

#zionfever

kid is insane.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on October 26, 2018, 03:47:56 am
he is stupefying. like giannis, lebron-level physical talent.

i used to follow college basketball religiously but i've fallen off in recent years. my question is how the hell is duke ranked 4th? didn't they have like 3 of the top 5 recruits this year?

EDIT: yes, they do: 1, 2, and 5. also the #15 and #33 recruits. zion isn't even the top-rated recruit ON DUKE.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on October 26, 2018, 10:25:38 am
ya i haven't been following college bball much in recent years either.. but, with Zion, I will. He definitely seems like a generational talent. I mean his physicality/strength is SHAQ level, but he's more of a small forward, with guard-like handles.

So, just like LEBRON seems like a mix of MJ (jordan) and MJ (magic) to me, Zion seems like a mix of Barkley and SHAQ with some extra guard qualities. This kid is so strong it's unbelievable.

he seriously looks like he is in the NFL:

(http://www.zagsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Zion-Duke-1200x800.jpg)

i'm curious to see how he fills out.. LMAO.



also, i'm so glad Grayson isn't on Duke with Zion.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on October 26, 2018, 02:28:16 pm
i hope he can live up to his gifts. would be fun to watch.

dumb point of conversation: how do you define "generational" talent? generations are usually taken to be 20 years. so the most talented/greatest player in a 20 year stretch. right now that'd obviously be lebron, but would you call giannis a "generational" talent? he's unreal, every bit as much a physical freak as lebron just blossoming later. anyone else in the NBA in that tier? people talked about anthony davis and KAT that way but i don't think so.

curry isn't generational, he's sui generis.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: fast does lie on October 27, 2018, 02:59:55 am
duke should be ranked 1
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on October 28, 2018, 12:18:14 pm
i hope he can live up to his gifts. would be fun to watch.

tbh don't see how he can't. he's just too strong & athletic, combined beautiful finishing ability at the rim. so even if his jumper is suspect, i don't see how he can't dominate the glass.

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dumb point of conversation: how do you define "generational" talent? generations are usually taken to be 20 years. so the most talented/greatest player in a 20 year stretch. right now that'd obviously be lebron, but would you call giannis a "generational" talent? he's unreal, every bit as much a physical freak as lebron just blossoming later. anyone else in the NBA in that tier? people talked about anthony davis and KAT that way but i don't think so.

well for basketball, i think you can have generational players among different positions. ie, generational center, guard etc.

unlike say, boxing, where it's pretty much just one position (a fighter). but i guess u could have several at the same time, via different weight classes.

as for Giannis, not sure if i'd put him there yet. he's incredible for sure, but I guess i've always considered "generational talents", those who not only are on another level skill-wise, but also lead their teams to victory.

so ya, when it comes to AD/KAT/Greek Freak, they need to figure out how to win. That's what makes someone like LEBRON, Curry, AI, Shaq, Kobe, MJ etc on another level. They are just so dominant that it's hard for a game not to tip in their favor - resulting in them having more regular & post season success. The league is absolutely stacked now, so it's definitely not easy. But when someone like Lebron or SHAQ comes along, they basically "unstack it", and they become the epicenter, that's how it feels to me anyway.

as for Zion, he just gives off the vibe that he will change whatever game he's in, completely. Defensively, offensively, etc. We'll see soon, that's for sure!

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curry isn't generational, he's sui generis.

if he was on an awful team, i feel like he'd be more of an AI. He'd still figure out how to win. He'd probably also take more shots.

AI is a great example for me. He was just a force, as small as he was, that could lead a subpar team to victory, year after year. He really was incredible. I still remember him going up against the dynasty Lakers.. 76'rs completely outmatched, AI goes off for like 48 or something to steal game 1. On paper, PHI has no chance against that LA team. AI was just incredible. AI proved how lethal a scoring point guard could be in a "big man league".

pc!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: fast does lie on October 29, 2018, 05:14:33 am
he is the hulk, hope he works on his shot a lot cause he'll need it deep in the season
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on October 29, 2018, 07:09:55 am
i think "he is the hulk" pretty much sums it up. lmao.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on November 09, 2018, 09:27:55 am
I saw some of the debut, but was too busy watching election coverage.

I didn't know he scored 28, holy shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_uqYRwjEc8

^^ check 2:50
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on November 11, 2018, 05:39:53 pm
lmao yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBcw8UH-ts
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on November 11, 2018, 05:40:10 pm
Zion's blocks.. my goodness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB3X4q2uieU
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2018, 10:00:24 am
dude.

this.

is.

insane.

50s & 1:30

odsksdok
dksosdk
godskg
kskdo
sdok
odk
go
.f
.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVvls4HOeXE
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: fast does lie on November 19, 2018, 04:33:28 am
Zion 100000% could bully most nba players this second.... shit duke could bully some nba teams tbh....

i'm curious if zion's vertical is going to start decreasing as soon as he goes to the nba.... like most nba players
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on November 19, 2018, 12:01:34 pm
Zion 100000% could bully most nba players this second....

100%

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shit duke could bully some nba teams tbh....

dno about that.. lol.

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i'm curious if zion's vertical is going to start decreasing as soon as he goes to the nba.... like most nba players

it'll probably go down eventually .. but similar to how lebron's went down, he just got bigger. zion will get bigger.

zion is an absolute monster.

he truly is worth the hype.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on December 04, 2018, 02:31:15 am
Michigan's a basketball school now!

(https://mgoblog.com/sites/default/files/2018-12/45224554005_4957d544e1_k.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on February 02, 2019, 01:49:42 pm
ZION IS SO INSANE.

and as far as hops go, how does someone 280+ get up so high? this kid is unreal.

found a forum thread that is pretty awesome: Zion Dunk Tracker!

respekt!

https://duke.forums.rivals.com/threads/zion-dunk-tracker.10857294/page-2

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UK - 3
Army - 1
EMU - 6
San Diego St. - 1
Auburn - 0
Gonzaga -1 Zion also missed his 1st dunk of the year
Indiana - 6
Stetson - 2
Hartford -3 with 2 missed dunks (sorry Sky, I mean dinks!)
Yale - 1
Princeton - 0
Texas Tech - 3
Clemson - 2
Wake - 4
FSU - 0 with 1 eyeball poked out
Syracuse - 1
Virginia - 2
Pitt - 3
Georgia Tech - 4
Notre Dame - 0

43 Total

Unless I missed it, Zion had no dunks against Notre Dame.

OFC

 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :ibjumping:
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on February 10, 2019, 12:05:06 pm
zion, yo. zion.

https://deadspin.com/zion-williamson-temporarily-activates-his-flying-abilit-1832506609
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on February 10, 2019, 03:03:14 pm
zion, yo. zion.

https://deadspin.com/zion-williamson-temporarily-activates-his-flying-abilit-1832506609

that is absolute insanity.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: fast does lie on February 12, 2019, 10:11:13 pm
Duke could beat any NBA team thats having a bad day.... FACT.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on February 14, 2019, 10:57:33 pm
again, zion:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--oUQSxlBR--/c_scale,dpr_2.0,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/m5mgk4qf3xhcumdhz5dh.jpg)

from an interview with the photographer who took that shot:

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I tweet during timeouts, so I was kinda going through the stuff on the camera and looking, and I just zoomed in to see how sharp it was, because there was good action in the frame,” Kamenish said. “And I was like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’ And I showed it to the guy next to me, a seasoned basketball player back in his day, he’s like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: acole14 on February 15, 2019, 12:15:56 am
Duke could beat any NBA team thats having a bad day.... FACT.

If Duke played the Cavs tomorrow, Cavs would win by 50pts and Kevin Love would break Wilt's single game points record.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on February 15, 2019, 07:19:57 am
again, zion:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--oUQSxlBR--/c_scale,dpr_2.0,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/m5mgk4qf3xhcumdhz5dh.jpg)

from an interview with the photographer who took that shot:

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I tweet during timeouts, so I was kinda going through the stuff on the camera and looking, and I just zoomed in to see how sharp it was, because there was good action in the frame,” Kamenish said. “And I was like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’ And I showed it to the guy next to me, a seasoned basketball player back in his day, he’s like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’

W
T
F.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on February 15, 2019, 07:20:43 am
Duke could beat any NBA team thats having a bad day.... FACT.

If Duke played the Cavs tomorrow, Cavs would win by 50pts and Kevin Love would break Wilt's single game points record.

ya i was going to say something like that. duke would get destroyed even by any 2nd string nba team.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: fast does lie on February 16, 2019, 01:00:58 am
Elite NCAA teams are really not that far off from NBA teams on a bad/demovitaed night. 82 games.... have u seen how some nba teams look on a bad night? esp an old team that has given up and saving it for next game?

obviously if the NBA team went all out they would crush.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: Mutumbo000 on February 16, 2019, 03:44:47 am
Duke could beat any NBA team thats having a bad day.... FACT.

If Duke played the Cavs tomorrow, Cavs would win by 50pts and Kevin Love would break Wilt's single game points record.

In 2002 the Sturt Sabres (local amateur basketball club playing in the ABL team equivalent to a Big V Team) played the Arizona Wildcats who made the Final Four of the NCAA National Championships in 2001. Arizona won 109-98 over Sturt in 2002 featuring future-NBA players in Channing Frye, Luke Walton, Will Bynum & Salim Stoudamire. I saw that game in person because it was held at the Pasadena basketball stadium and I was playing for Sturt in U14's at the time.

If a top NCAA team beats an amateur Australian team by 11 points they would get thrashed by an NBL team, let alone a team from the NBA!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: Mutumbo000 on February 16, 2019, 03:50:38 am
Elite NCAA teams are really not that far off from NBA teams on a bad/demovitaed night. 82 games.... have u seen how some nba teams look on a bad night? esp an old team that has given up and saving it for next game?

obviously if the NBA team went all out they would crush.

Elite NCAA teams have a couple of great players. NBA teams have ALL great players. It's a chasm in depth, which makes the difference.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: LBSS on February 16, 2019, 04:38:34 am
case in point: cleveland's bench now includes nik stauskas, who was the big ten player of the year and a consensus all-american but is barely a replacement-level pro.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Season
Post by: adarqui on February 16, 2019, 10:00:40 am
"the meltdown"

Chapter 27: How to lose a game when you're up 20+ with < 10 minutes to go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OydPe7ZtdRY