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Ball-Handling Programs
« on: July 30, 2011, 08:08:32 pm »
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So as a basketball player, I feel like my lack of handles is holding me back the most.  I mean, in a typical pick-up game at my universities rec center, I'm usually the 1st or 2nd best ball handler in the 5on5 game, but that's against average guys.  I want elite handles.  I have VERY good 1st step quickness which I blow by people with all the time, but I feel like it can go up another level if I had more handles.  I have a pretty good jump shot, good at finishing around the basket, I just want some yo-yo handles.  Now you tell me to stay consistent and work hard training for vert?  Easy, I'll do it as I currently am doing.  Want me to work on my jumpshot?  Easy, I can easily go to the gym and put up hundreds of shots a day.  Want me to work on my handles?  Not so easy.  I end up quitting after like 10-20 minutes and just shoot instead.  I have no structure unlike the other 2 things to train for.  I don't know what drills specifically to do that'll carryover the best for me.  

I was going to buy Effective-Ball Handling, (I know, Moroko = bad) and I know I'm basically just paying for a schedule, but I don't care.  I need a structured workout laid out for me when it comes to this.  BUT, it seems like he's not selling it anymore???

Do you guys know if Taylor Allan's (I know..) Ball Handling Mastery program is any good?

Are there any other ball handling products out there?  
« Last Edit: July 30, 2011, 08:14:14 pm by Ineedtodunk »
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 10:15:58 pm »
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the products are pretty nice (if you get oneallan's is better by a far shot), but you really don't need to buy them. You can just fuck around and get nice handles, but if you want a structured setup its pretty simple. Try this for the next four weeks. i did it back in 9th grade (year and a half) and improved my handles quickly. I always go back to it when im feeling rusty.

do the same stationary ball handling workout 5-7 days. 3-5 days a week work on your moves.

stationary workout (go as fast as heavenly possible and by the end of the  four weeks each drill should be easy as hell)

1. Ball Slaps: 25-50
2. Ball Squeezes: 25-50
3. finger tip taps: 10-20 times up and down
4. Ball wrap: 25 each hand each direction (head, waist, 2 legs, R/L leg, figure 8)
5. pounds: 20 each (shoulder high, waist high, ankle high) try to make dents in floor
6. V dribble complex: 30 each combo (crossover, between legs, behind back, 1 hand front, 1 hand side)
7. dribble wraps: 20 each (in wrap, out wrap, figure 8, scissors)
8. taps complex: 10 each (figure 8, R/L leg, 2 leg)
9. freestyle: 3-4 sets of 10-60 sec

adjust the volume to how you feel that day. if you need extra work on left just add more reps on that side. if you get bored just do other variations of each like with ball wraps new direction, v dribbles make them wide/add a dribble/etc. just be creative

whenever else you feel like it just practice your moves and really focus on the little details.

do this for four weeks then you can just progress by doing harder variations of each for 4 more weeks

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 10:37:19 pm »
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the why behind it if your interested is this. you get the ball on a string with the ball handling so that the only thing you worry about when you work on your moves is footwork and not the ball. high frequency is really good for getting it on a string.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 12:32:32 am »
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The absolute best trick I learned to work and focus on my ball handling. And it's the way I tell all my kids I coach to do it to.

DO NOT PRACTICE DRIBBLING ON A BASKETBALL COURT!

I know, it sounds counter-intuitive, but the reason being, it's like you said originally. You just end up shooting because the goal is there. But find a place, no goal, and just practice dribbling. You won't be tempted to shoot since there is no goal to shoot at. And honestly, 15-25 minutes is more than enough to practice. Otherwise, you're going to tire out too much and not enjoy it or work hard/explosively on your moves.

That's all I have. I won't bother giving you actual drills. Most people just do whatever feels good to them and honestly, if you don't have examples given in person, it's hard to explain over text anyways.

Anyways, hope that tip helps.

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Okay, I lied. I have one more tip.

DRIBBLE HARD. Slam that ball down. Watch College/NBA players with amazing ball control. Even when they're just standing/jogging with the ball, they throw that ball down -way- harder than the average rec league player, etc. Slamming the ball down means it will come back to your hard with greater force, allowing the ball to stick into your hand via momentum/inertia. The greater the ball sticks to your hand...obviously the easier it will be to maneuver it.

Now I'm done. :)
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 12:49:57 am »
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The absolute best trick I learned to work and focus on my ball handling. And it's the way I tell all my kids I coach to do it to.

DO NOT PRACTICE DRIBBLING ON A BASKETBALL COURT!

I know, it sounds counter-intuitive, but the reason being, it's like you said originally. You just end up shooting because the goal is there. But find a place, no goal, and just practice dribbling. You won't be tempted to shoot since there is no goal to shoot at. And honestly, 15-25 minutes is more than enough to practice. Otherwise, you're going to tire out too much and not enjoy it or work hard/explosively on your moves.

That's all I have. I won't bother giving you actual drills. Most people just do whatever feels good to them and honestly, if you don't have examples given in person, it's hard to explain over text anyways.

Anyways, hope that tip helps.

Edit:
Okay, I lied. I have one more tip.

DRIBBLE HARD. Slam that ball down. Watch College/NBA players with amazing ball control. Even when they're just standing/jogging with the ball, they throw that ball down -way- harder than the average rec league player, etc. Slamming the ball down means it will come back to your hard with greater force, allowing the ball to stick into your hand via momentum/inertia. The greater the ball sticks to your hand...obviously the easier it will be to maneuver it.

Now I'm done. :)

yo i have been unintentionally doing that for the past few years in my garage, but my reasoning has always been not to chase after the ball or look bad because i try to push to failure.

you always seem to have really great tips. why do you not have your own blog in the basketball subforum or something.

and not to be demanding or anything its just that YOU STILL HAVENT WRITTEN THE DEFENSE POST FROM MONTHS AGO.

again not to be rude, i am just very interested
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 01:08:02 am »
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Thanks man, I appreciate it. Not rude at all. And I'm actually working on it.

www.callyourownfouls.com

It's barely even set up. It's going to be a part of my current pet project(s), www.NBAChat.co and www.NBAChatForum.co.

I do plan on having a personal/basketball blog. And I'm thinking about doing a weekly coaching feature or bi-weekly. Just depends on how much the whole chat-site and forum take up time-wise. But I have plans for it.

And yes, my bad on the defense post. I completely forgot. I'll try to do an abbreviate version in the next week or two. Honestly, I could go on for days about on-ball, man-to-man, zone, team-oriented, help and all other kinds of defense and techniques.

But thanks for reminding me, I'll definitely try to get some tips up on that for you in the next week or two. Work is starting to slow down for me and I'll have some more free time. Keep sending me reminders if I don't get it up for you soon.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 07:10:09 am »
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Thanks for the advice guys.  Yeah I'll be doing the drills in my garage most likely.  Also, D-Rose Jr, have you tried Taylor Allan's ball handling mastery?  I know it's a 12 week program, but that's it.  Why do you think it's better than EBH?
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 07:22:33 am »
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Taylor Allan?


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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 07:24:59 am »
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I think Maroko is running this trial which you can try the EBH for $1 for 14 days, then you decide if you wanna pay for the rest and keep it or not.  ;D Sounds cool to me.

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 07:37:31 am »
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i don't get why you need a program? There are like a million drills and workouts layed out for you on youtube, it's not like Marokko has some secret combination of drills that is going to give you mad handles.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 07:44:01 am »
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Taylor Allan's programs seem to be legit and have great feedback.
But in everyone of his videos he says whatever you are doing are hurting your potential and to be great you have to get his programs and shit that annoys me a lot.
He seems to be someone who really knows basketball. I am also interested in his programs. But really i think for ball-handling you can just do a lot of two ball drills and drills on the move.

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 07:48:31 am »
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I think people tend to like how the programs tells you what to do everyday instead of just throw you a bunch of random drills.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 07:51:35 am »
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I think people tend to like how the programs tells you what to do everyday instead of just throw you a bunch of random drills.

That's what I need when it comes to ball handling lol.  Besides, just any random drills don't really work.  If I go to youtube and pick out the first 10 dribbling drills I see, who knows if I'll significantly improve.  I have no doubt Maroko and Allan make retarded claims in their videos and have no shame when it comes to scamming people, but that doesn't mean they don't know their basketball.  And to the rest, I KNOW I'm paying money for just essentially a schedule lol
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 10:43:51 am »
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I think people tend to like how the programs tells you what to do everyday instead of just throw you a bunch of random drills.

That's what I need when it comes to ball handling lol.  Besides, just any random drills don't really work.  If I go to youtube and pick out the first 10 dribbling drills I see, who knows if I'll significantly improve.  I have no doubt Maroko and Allan make retarded claims in their videos and have no shame when it comes to scamming people, but that doesn't mean they don't know their basketball.  And to the rest, I KNOW I'm paying money for just essentially a schedule lol

actually with ball handling you can just fuck around with the ball and get a lot better. That's why niggas that don't ever do shit can have nice handles but no shot.

yeah i tried taylor allans program in june and in about 3 weeks it helped a lot but i stopped because im going through the month of a july on an all play period so i can actually where im at. I tried maroko's half of program back in january. it is decent but i just didnt like how it scheduled shit/how it was just a bunch of drills so i just did my own shit.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 10:51:06 am »
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I think people tend to like how the programs tells you what to do everyday instead of just throw you a bunch of random drills.

That's what I need when it comes to ball handling lol.  Besides, just any random drills don't really work.  If I go to youtube and pick out the first 10 dribbling drills I see, who knows if I'll significantly improve.  I have no doubt Maroko and Allan make retarded claims in their videos and have no shame when it comes to scamming people, but that doesn't mean they don't know their basketball.  And to the rest, I KNOW I'm paying money for just essentially a schedule lol

actually with ball handling you can just fuck around with the ball and get a lot better. That's why niggas that don't ever do shit can have nice handles but no shot.

yeah i tried taylor allans program in june and in about 3 weeks it helped a lot but i stopped because im going through the month of a july on an all play period so i can actually where im at. I tried maroko's half of program back in january. it is decent but i just didnt like how it scheduled shit/how it was just a bunch of drills so i just did my own shit.



I know you can just fuck around and get handles, but as I explained, it doesn't work out too well for me. 
In Taylor Allen's Ball Handling Mastery, how often do you do it?  How many days a week usually and how long are each session?
Goal is to dunk.

Vertical needed to dunk: 40"

Current vertical : 38.5"