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Sport Specific Training Discussion => Basketball => Topic started by: vag on September 01, 2014, 05:51:23 am
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http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014
Let's get this topic rolling :highfive:
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Australia smashed Korea the other day. Pretty sure Australia will dominate against all the Asian countries but they'll struggle against the European heavyweights.
USA looking strong and deserved favourites so far.
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Crazy Philippines team. Troubled way better teams than them with their 40 minutes run&gun 'anti-tactical' play.
A bit sad though to see their coach congratulate their player for punching one of ours ( Greece ).
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I thought Greece played pretty cool, actually. I'm very annoyed by Spain with all their complaining at EVERY play, and their disgusting floppers. They are good though.
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Well, we played nice so far but the opponents were much weaker so you can't make any safe assumptions. Following games of the group vs Croatia and Argentina will show more.
We have many significant absences ( e.g. Spanoulis, Koufos ) but we finally have the best ( imho ) Greek coach in the national team.
As a squad, our main disadvantage is the center position, only 1 very good center ( Bourousis ) and one mediocre sub ( Vougioukas ).
In all other positions we are good.
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my only observation so far, because football has begun and baseball is about to enter the playoffs with my team on a roll, and therefore all other sports are relegated to fifth-tier status, is that every single player on team USA except rudy gay is younger than i am. and rudy's only a few months older.
fuck.
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Australia beats Lithuania! :trolldance:
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USA looking good but not that good. The personalities absence compared to previous tournaments ( Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Melo ) is showing.
Spain looks #1 candidate for the trophy currently, given they are playing in their home too.
USA looks like they could even fall as a surprise victim and not reach final ( like the 2006 tournament where Greece won the semi-finals ;D ).
Still too early though, gonna be very interesting.
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Yes^^^
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the main highlight ESPN showed of usa-NZ was the haka dance and the US players looking confused as shit. haka dance is baller but much more so when the team has a chance of actually being intimidating, as the all blacks do.
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Australia beat Mexico. Australia had the game in the bag at the end of the 3rd quarter but they should've put them away instead of giving Mexico a glimmer of hope for the first half the of the 4th quarter.
Australia v Angola is coming up soon. Australia should win by 10+ points.
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the main highlight ESPN showed of usa-NZ was the haka dance and the US players looking confused as shit. haka dance is baller but much more so when the team has a chance of actually being intimidating, as the all blacks do.
Yeah it's tokenism using the haka dance in basketball.
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the main highlight ESPN showed of usa-NZ was the haka dance and the US players looking confused as shit. haka dance is baller but much more so when the team has a chance of actually being intimidating, as the all blacks do.
Yeah it's tokenism using the haka dance in basketball.
yeah, there's also that.
ETA: http://deadspin.com/andre-iguodala-pokes-fun-at-haka-dance-steven-adams-is-1630284063
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^^^ lol, interesting grammar iggy, "New Zealand thought they dance was gone intimidate us...."
In other news:
-Very convincing play and win from Greece vs Argentina.
-Australia deliberately lost to Angola to avoid USA : http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/australian-basketball-team-accused-of-tanking-at-world-cup-in-bid-to-avoid-usa/story-fni2u9cl-1227048327778?nk=66e911921850d1db715b6fe64e2c032b
I am a bit annoyed from the reactions. Yes, deliberately losing does not follow the 'olympic' athletic ideology. this is not new though, teams that are not the strongest always do that. It is hypocrisy to take it all out in Australia, suddenly, like we just discovered this.
I guess it was just too obvious because it was Angola, if it was an equally strong team nobody would care.
There was a Greece vs France game a few Eurobaskets ago, that both teams wanted to lose. We were going point-by-point. Eventually we were tied and they had the last ball. And a youngster ( DeColo i think ) disobeyed the coach orders and scored.
There was another game, famous here, it must have been Mundobasket again, many years ago. We wanted to lose a game with over 9 points to avoid playing with Spain too early in the knockouts. We were at 9pts at the end and we had free throws. Coach told the player to lose them. He indeed threw the ball to lose it... and it went in, lololol. To make it even crazier, in the other game China surprisingly won Spain so we did avoid them.
Found the Greece-France video, look at his teammates , they are not so happy with the win :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejjor_ab3Ec
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Good strategic move by the Australians.
Lose the battle to win the war.
Lithuania beat Slovenia 67-64 so now Australia avoids facing the USA until the Semi Finals.
I watched the Australia v Angola game and it was obvious Australia could've won it if they really wanted to. In the 3rd quarter Australia was up by 15 points. Australia didn't even use 3 of it's starting 5 players at all throughout the game. That's fair enough though because they got a rest for bigger and better things.
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Every single team would have done the same thing to avoid USA. Not to mention they had played a ridiculous five games in six nights. It just looked so obvious that they were trying to lose. Nathan Jawai (aka Outback Shaq) made the Angolan center look like Kevin Durant, but they kept him in the whole game.
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Can't believe Australia lost to Turkey :raging:
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Fuck, we were trashed by Serbia too, early plane home.
Well deserved though, Serbia played 100% concentrated and smart and very well read, both defensively and offensively, while we did our worse game, everything went wrong. Those two are not unrelated of course, one brings the other.
Spain was winning 20pts easily and still complaining at every call, ridiculous. Very very good team though, tactically, individually, bench depth, everything.
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I can't believe how much I watched Nenad Krstic play with Vince in his NJN days haha
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDdY9ZOlfw
That was impressive!
USA's full court press is scary, so is the transition.
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The disgusting Spanish floppers lost
#feelingecstatic
#downgothefloppers
#outwithgaflop
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USA NUMBER ONE. dominant.
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You gotta love how simplified, yet effective USAs game was. Was a real pleasure watching them.
Most impressive tournament win after the original dream team imho.
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:o USA have now won 63 straight fiba games. It seems they are unbeatable.
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They aren't unbeatable but....it won't be easy. You have to remember that we invented this sport and on the whole we're still a few steps ahead of the rest of the world. Take a glance at the NBA, it's the pinnacle of basketball and while there are several foreign born players look how many are 'stars'. Now take that number...divide it across the rest of earth's countries and you have 1 or 2 all stars vs a team of all stars and future HOF'ers. It's easy to see why we are dominant in that regard.
The world is closing the gap it seems and pretty soon we won't be able to send 'b' level stars and waltz our way to a gold.
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Yup, well said!
Krzyzewski himself was asked if they were unbeatable during the tournament and his reply was "no way".
Incidentally, one of the audience in that press conference was Panagiotis Giannakis, the coach of the Greek team that was the last one to win USA, back in the 2006 world cup semi-finals and Krzyzewski mentioned that too.
http://www.talkbasket.net/11126-usa-are-beatable-says-both-coach-k-and-zdovc.html
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If I hear the word "shshevsky" again I'll go nuts.
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They aren't unbeatable but....it won't be easy. You have to remember that we invented this sport and on the whole we're still a few steps ahead of the rest of the world. Take a glance at the NBA, it's the pinnacle of basketball and while there are several foreign born players look how many are 'stars'. Now take that number...divide it across the rest of earth's countries and you have 1 or 2 all stars vs a team of all stars and future HOF'ers. It's easy to see why we are dominant in that regard.
The world is closing the gap it seems and pretty soon we won't be able to send 'b' level stars and waltz our way to a gold.
Bball was actually invented by a Canadian. Funny how many people don't know that.
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c'est vrais.
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Yea he was Canadian but he founded the sport in Kansas...can't get much more 'Merica' than Kansas. ;)
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Besides....the Canadians were/are too busy hitting each other with sticks and losing teeth to flying pucks.
:D
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Yea he was Canadian but he founded the sport in Kansas...can't get much more 'Merica' than Kansas. ;)
uh...no. in springfield, massachusetts. at the ymca.
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Yea....I'm an idiot. For some reason I always jump to his coaching at Kansas.
My brain and I are not cooperating lately :)