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Title: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on September 07, 2010, 10:32:14 pm
finna get herpes


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Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on September 07, 2010, 10:32:42 pm
is it a bit low or what? possibly.. still he flys
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: vag on September 08, 2010, 03:40:19 am
is it a bit low or what? possibly.. still he flys

Probably a couple of inches.
They're also kinda admitting it , because at 5'10'' he needs 50'' to barely touch head at rim. He gets his head way above it in that jump so they would claim more.
If i had to guess , id say that's in the ~9'10'' area and his jump in the ~52'' area.

Sick stuff as always from haneef , i love how he floats...
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on September 08, 2010, 04:16:30 am
is it a bit low or what? possibly.. still he flys

Probably a couple of inches.
They're also kinda admitting it , because at 5'10'' he needs 50'' to barely touch head at rim. He gets his head way above it in that jump so they would claim more.
If i had to guess , id say that's in the ~9'10'' area and his jump in the ~52'' area.

Sick stuff as always from haneef , i love how he floats...

ya i agree.. i love how he jumps too, shit is ridiculous.. looks way diff than t-dub/gc, finally raptor/djoe can truly point out "relaxation", cause that's the vibe you get from his jumping hah.

pc
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on September 08, 2010, 05:05:32 am
just timed his kiss-the-rim jump in AE, 30 frames.

so ya, regardless of rim height, that is flying.

:)
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on October 25, 2010, 11:05:16 pm
nice vid

Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Flander on October 27, 2010, 02:48:13 am
That last windmill in the first vid. I really liked that.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 10, 2010, 12:11:34 am
sick

Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 03:06:10 am
unbelievable jump..




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Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 04:19:36 am
Yeah I just don't understand how these guys do it. I mean, they don't look like they can squat 3x or anything, yet they find a way to fly... doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: vag on November 15, 2010, 04:49:29 am

W - T - F   ? ? ?

Impossible jump , just impossible!
If he is 5'11'' in shoes and thats legit 10' , that jump is in the 60'' area , probably ~62'' , WTF  :o
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 05:02:34 am

W - T - F   ? ? ?

Impossible jump , just impossible!
If he is 5'11'' in shoes and thats legit 10' , that jump is in the 60'' area , probably ~62'' , WTF  :o


that rim is def low, like 9'10 at most.. but still, that jump is still insane..

i mean let's say he's getting chin to a 9'10 (118") rim at 71", 118 - 71 = 47 for top of head.. to chin it has to be about 8 inches.. so i'm thinking like 55" ?

the 60-62 you're seeing is the cam angle pic, i'd say highest he got is chin over.

still man wtf. haha

amazing
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 05:03:31 am
Yeah I just don't understand how these guys do it. I mean, they don't look like they can squat 3x or anything, yet they find a way to fly... doesn't make sense.

could someone (some performance lab @ a university) please study this guy.. shit is unreal.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: vag on November 15, 2010, 05:20:08 am

that rim is def low, like 9'10 at most.. but still, that jump is still insane..

i mean let's say he's getting chin to a 9'10 (118") rim at 71", 118 - 71 = 47 for top of head.. to chin it has to be about 8 inches.. so i'm thinking like 55" ?

the 60-62 you're seeing is the cam angle pic, i'd say highest he got is chin over.

still man wtf. haha

amazing

Ya , weve talked about that rim again , thats why i said "if it is legit 10".
I agree with your analysis , i used ~12'' above rim though , i think he gets a couple of inches below chin , normalizing the distortion.
That's our calculations difference 2'' from rim + 4'' from how higher he got.

Ok , my last offer 9'10'' rim + 6'1'' in shoes + 10'' above = 56''  ;D

Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 05:28:56 am

that rim is def low, like 9'10 at most.. but still, that jump is still insane..

i mean let's say he's getting chin to a 9'10 (118") rim at 71", 118 - 71 = 47 for top of head.. to chin it has to be about 8 inches.. so i'm thinking like 55" ?

the 60-62 you're seeing is the cam angle pic, i'd say highest he got is chin over.

still man wtf. haha

amazing

Ya , weve talked about that rim again , thats why i said "if it is legit 10".
I agree with your analysis , i used ~12'' above rim though , i think he gets a couple of inches below chin , normalizing the distortion.
That's our calculations difference 2'' from rim + 4'' from how higher he got.

Ok , my last offer 9'10'' rim + 6'1'' in shoes + 10'' above = 56''  ;D



lol ya.. his chin is up alot though from cervical extension, i took that into account, still 55-56 or so on that jump + he fell down, which makes it even more likely that it was insanely high.. in most cases, he wouldn't have fallen on a jump he could easily absorb, ie, a jump that was 50" and all cam angle..

55-56" or so, has to be something insane like that..

wtf.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 07:01:44 am
If you take James White in the Turkey dunk contest, he's with his head at the square at some point, jumping from the free throw line. Angle helps big time :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgjEAV5w4sE

0:09 here ^^^
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: vag on November 15, 2010, 07:36:53 am
Yes , that is pure angle as he is between the low cam and the high rim , cant get more distorted than that.
Nevertheless, Haneef's angle is much more legit , you can easily normalise the distortion.

As for James White and head above rim , at 6'7'' with his insane vert , he can do it without camera angle distortion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_rq03dPBw

 ;D
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 07:55:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVJ1IvYkaI
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 05:53:57 pm
just comparing his jump vs mine, he's RL and i'm LR so.. all of his head height jumps are slowed down so I can't see how he compares in terms of speed/GCT, even though its a 30fps it would be slightly interesting.

anyway, biggest diff is arm swing on the way up imo, but overall, pretty similar looking jump.. oh and uh, 20" in vert.

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Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 06:18:38 pm
I don't really agree about the similarities. I mean, studying closely things about plants etc, I've discovered that the best jumpers are those that drop quite a bit on the penultimate step in a two footed plant as well. You're currently not doing that very good in my eyes. To me, that's the part you could improve sooooo much. Lean more on a side and "be like water" to quote Bruce Lee.

I've also seen on Vince two days ago in his plant how well he puts that right leg and rotates on it, and keeps on rotating until he puts the left leg on the floor too. He's kind of unique in that regard since the people I usually see - they rotate as well but they are "stiff". He just lets his limbs be elastic and "bend". It's really hard to explain what I mean, but it's easily visible. And no, I'm not that crazy, mind you.

So to me, if you'd look a bit into the penultimate and tweak on that, you'd get higher.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 06:38:32 pm
I don't really agree about the similarities. I mean, studying closely things about plants etc, I've discovered that the best jumpers are those that drop quite a bit on the penultimate step in a two footed plant as well. You're currently not doing that very good in my eyes. To me, that's the part you could improve sooooo much. Lean more on a side and "be like water" to quote Bruce Lee.

I've also seen on Vince two days ago in his plant how well he puts that right leg and rotates on it, and keeps on rotating until he puts the left leg on the floor too. He's kind of unique in that regard since the people I usually see - they rotate as well but they are "stiff". He just lets his limbs be elastic and "bend". It's really hard to explain what I mean, but it's easily visible. And no, I'm not that crazy, mind you.

So to me, if you'd look a bit into the penultimate and tweak on that, you'd get higher.

that "lean" you speak of, ya i'm not doing it that much lately, it is something I do naturally but strength work interfered.. if you look at my jumps following intense depth jump blocks, i always re-gain that lean, for example:

here's an old vid that demonstrates it real good from front angle, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72fqPlL3eM

i'm not anywhere near that right now.. i agree, i'd get up higher if my body started doing that again, maybe after this upcoming shock block (hopefully) it'll come back..

pc
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 06:43:57 pm
Um... no... no you're not really putting that right leg like I'd want you to.

Check it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJFrhZV9cW4

Try and go frame by frame if you can with it. Check Vince's left leg (the 2nd leg put on the floor). Check out that leg's position, he low he is to the ground and what that leg is going, how it's "bent from the knee" etc. You look "stiff" right now, maybe that's how you jump, but from personal experience, when I do what I'm talking about here, I get much higher. And it's not a coincidence either. The first plant leg is pretty "stiff" (not too much though) but the 2nd plant leg, the right leg (same as you since we use the same plant) I try to keep it relaxed and "loose" and end up doing that "Vince" plant, elastic thing.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on January 19, 2011, 11:43:19 pm
check haneef's jump at 1:02


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Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: adarqui on February 22, 2011, 07:52:52 pm
nothing crazy but nice angle


Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: MrBig on October 16, 2012, 01:56:38 pm
One hell of an athlete....
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: Raptor on October 16, 2012, 02:01:36 pm
One hell of an athlete....

Tell that the Kery Hilson.
Title: Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
Post by: MrBig on October 16, 2012, 02:51:33 pm
Quote
Tell that the Kery Hilson.
lol