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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2010, 07:01:44 am »
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If you take James White in the Turkey dunk contest, he's with his head at the square at some point, jumping from the free throw line. Angle helps big time :D

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgjEAV5w4sE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgjEAV5w4sE</a>

0:09 here ^^^
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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2010, 07:36:53 am »
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Yes , that is pure angle as he is between the low cam and the high rim , cant get more distorted than that.
Nevertheless, Haneef's angle is much more legit , you can easily normalise the distortion.

As for James White and head above rim , at 6'7'' with his insane vert , he can do it without camera angle distortion:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_rq03dPBw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_rq03dPBw</a>

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2010, 07:55:13 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVJ1IvYkaI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVJ1IvYkaI</a>

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2010, 05:53:57 pm »
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just comparing his jump vs mine, he's RL and i'm LR so.. all of his head height jumps are slowed down so I can't see how he compares in terms of speed/GCT, even though its a 30fps it would be slightly interesting.

anyway, biggest diff is arm swing on the way up imo, but overall, pretty similar looking jump.. oh and uh, 20" in vert.














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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2010, 06:18:38 pm »
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I don't really agree about the similarities. I mean, studying closely things about plants etc, I've discovered that the best jumpers are those that drop quite a bit on the penultimate step in a two footed plant as well. You're currently not doing that very good in my eyes. To me, that's the part you could improve sooooo much. Lean more on a side and "be like water" to quote Bruce Lee.

I've also seen on Vince two days ago in his plant how well he puts that right leg and rotates on it, and keeps on rotating until he puts the left leg on the floor too. He's kind of unique in that regard since the people I usually see - they rotate as well but they are "stiff". He just lets his limbs be elastic and "bend". It's really hard to explain what I mean, but it's easily visible. And no, I'm not that crazy, mind you.

So to me, if you'd look a bit into the penultimate and tweak on that, you'd get higher.

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 06:38:32 pm »
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I don't really agree about the similarities. I mean, studying closely things about plants etc, I've discovered that the best jumpers are those that drop quite a bit on the penultimate step in a two footed plant as well. You're currently not doing that very good in my eyes. To me, that's the part you could improve sooooo much. Lean more on a side and "be like water" to quote Bruce Lee.

I've also seen on Vince two days ago in his plant how well he puts that right leg and rotates on it, and keeps on rotating until he puts the left leg on the floor too. He's kind of unique in that regard since the people I usually see - they rotate as well but they are "stiff". He just lets his limbs be elastic and "bend". It's really hard to explain what I mean, but it's easily visible. And no, I'm not that crazy, mind you.

So to me, if you'd look a bit into the penultimate and tweak on that, you'd get higher.

that "lean" you speak of, ya i'm not doing it that much lately, it is something I do naturally but strength work interfered.. if you look at my jumps following intense depth jump blocks, i always re-gain that lean, for example:

here's an old vid that demonstrates it real good from front angle, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72fqPlL3eM

i'm not anywhere near that right now.. i agree, i'd get up higher if my body started doing that again, maybe after this upcoming shock block (hopefully) it'll come back..

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 06:43:57 pm »
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Um... no... no you're not really putting that right leg like I'd want you to.

Check it here:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJFrhZV9cW4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJFrhZV9cW4</a>

Try and go frame by frame if you can with it. Check Vince's left leg (the 2nd leg put on the floor). Check out that leg's position, he low he is to the ground and what that leg is going, how it's "bent from the knee" etc. You look "stiff" right now, maybe that's how you jump, but from personal experience, when I do what I'm talking about here, I get much higher. And it's not a coincidence either. The first plant leg is pretty "stiff" (not too much though) but the 2nd plant leg, the right leg (same as you since we use the same plant) I try to keep it relaxed and "loose" and end up doing that "Vince" plant, elastic thing.

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 11:43:19 pm »
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check haneef's jump at 1:02





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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2011, 07:52:52 pm »
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nothing crazy but nice angle



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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2012, 01:56:38 pm »
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One hell of an athlete....
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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2012, 02:01:36 pm »
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One hell of an athlete....

Tell that the Kery Hilson.

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Re: haneef munir young hollywood keeps kissing the rim
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2012, 02:51:33 pm »
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Tell that the Kery Hilson.
lol
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