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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #600 on: June 13, 2017, 12:03:14 am »
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ok i'm out.

gn folks.

will post some photos tmw. if any1 sees some good finals mixes/dunk montages, or layup montages (kyrie/curry), or 3 montages (durant/curry), please post.

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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #601 on: June 13, 2017, 12:04:40 am »
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happy for GSW & especially Durant.

Got his ring. Woulda rather seen him get it on a less stacked team, but whatever.

Agreed on Durant. That's the silver lining of GSW winning.

Devo for CLE. Should have just given JR the ball every play the last 2 minutes.

ya man.. that was disappointing.

CLE should have been fouling like crazy the last ~3 minutes.. and then doing what they were doing on offense, very intense attack or kick it to JR Smith.

TBH, they "gave up" (edit: or more like, just accepted the L), they didn't fight to the very end.. and they lost by 9. They had some key missed opportunities in the last 2 minutes, turnovers/bad D - but that was because they had already given up imho.

JR Smith was automatic tonight, should have fed him alot more.



Would have just liked to see them play it more like an NCAA March Madness finish, where you keep fighting up until < 10 seconds, even if you're down 10.

Agreed 100%. They looked tired and accepted their fate. The shit thing about that is some of the greatest comebacks have happened that way. McGrady anyone???

yup.. mcgrady, miller, bird, etc.

never accept your fate.. by accepting it at 3 minutes, they gave themselves no chance to pull out the "miracle", and that helped contribute to the little mistakes/turnovers at the end, which looked so sloppy.. with no one near the boards for offensive rebounds. Bad look..

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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #602 on: June 13, 2017, 12:53:54 am »
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+1 to the "gave up" comments. cleveland quit with about 2:40 to go. there was an inbound after a GSW bucket where i said to my buddy, look at JR's body language. they're done.

then GSW started letting lebron drive however he wanted -- it was kind of fun to watch him destroy iggy one-on-one, but also kind of sad -- and milking the clock, and that was that.
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #603 on: June 13, 2017, 02:20:20 am »
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These guys are too spoiled to be playing like NCAA does. Cause they don't think the .2% chance of coming back is worth the pain/humiliation/effort... they're pretty much set with guaranteed NBA contracts, fame, $, etc.... but NCAA kids have nothing and no guaranteed future.... so they are going to fight for their lives....
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #604 on: June 14, 2017, 07:00:39 pm »
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Looking back on the NBA season, I don't see GSW being that much ahead of Cavs like everyone thinks.

I mean game 1 and 2, the cavs were in it til halftime then 2nd half got blitzed okay......

Game 3 cavs were up 6 with 2 minutes left......

Game 4 cavs blew em out

Game 5 cavs were in it AND kyrie started getting hurt.....

It's Lue's fault tbh for relying so heavily on Kyrie and Lebron all season, they have other weapons.... look at JR, Channing didnt even get used lol, shump, korver, derrick williams, and wtf why not give kay felder even if he stunk it up at first.... he's nervous as hell and was injured..... dude had a 39 inch svj!!!!

I'm sure they didn't train as hard as GSW either..... even though they said they "put in the time" .... bs....
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #605 on: June 14, 2017, 07:46:53 pm »
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Looking back on the NBA season, I don't see GSW being that much ahead of Cavs like everyone thinks.

I mean game 1 and 2, the cavs were in it til halftime then 2nd half got blitzed okay......

Game 3 cavs were up 6 with 2 minutes left......

Game 4 cavs blew em out

Game 5 cavs were in it AND kyrie started getting hurt.....

It's Lue's fault tbh for relying so heavily on Kyrie and Lebron all season, they have other weapons.... look at JR, Channing didnt even get used lol, shump, korver, derrick williams, and wtf why not give kay felder even if he stunk it up at first.... he's nervous as hell and was injured..... dude had a 39 inch svj!!!!

I'm sure they didn't train as hard as GSW either..... even though they said they "put in the time" .... bs....

Largely agree with you here. For me the big difference is those defensive lapses like when they forget to switch on a screen and let GSW waltz into an open basket. Simple mistakes that shouldn't be made at that level. Interested to see what happens in the trade period and next season.

But for now bring on Aug 26.
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #606 on: June 14, 2017, 08:12:42 pm »
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What happens on Aug 26?
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #607 on: June 14, 2017, 08:27:54 pm »
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What happens on Aug 26?

Mayweather v McGregor
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #608 on: June 14, 2017, 09:43:48 pm »
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What happens on Aug 26?

Mayweather v McGregor

lol i'm not looking forward to that at all, mcgregor is going to get slaughtered.... no fun when u know exactly whats going to happen....
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #609 on: June 15, 2017, 01:27:15 am »
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What happens on Aug 26?

Mayweather v McGregor

lol i'm not looking forward to that at all, mcgregor is going to get slaughtered.... no fun when u know exactly whats going to happen....

FWIW I think Mayweather wins but...

At worst McGregor has a punchers chance. He carries concrete in his hands and is a unique mover. He will come in bigger than Floyd with reach to boot and if Floyd is as defensive as he would normally be then McGregor has so much more freedom to move around. I think it's going to be a really interesting fight.
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #610 on: June 15, 2017, 06:50:22 am »
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Also, 2 huge records were broken in this year's finals:





Just saying...  :trollface:
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #611 on: June 15, 2017, 09:26:15 am »
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Also, 2 huge records were broken in this year's finals:



^^ thats insane..

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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #612 on: June 15, 2017, 11:27:27 pm »
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The thing I don't like about stats and records, is that it doesn't take into account how much the player plays, touches the ball, aka how much of the offense goes thru him.

If you tell any competent NBA combo guard, "hey, we're going to let you take the ball up anytime you want, and you can run anything you want, pick n roll, give and go, clear outs, post up etc" and give them that opportunity, over the span of a season or two, i guarantee they'll probably put up some great numbers once they run hot or hit some kind of rythm.

For example, a guy like Wayne Ellington.... he gets into the game and just launches tough shots and hits them consistently.... say he has above average handles and knows how to play the point..... and is given the freedom that Lebron has to run a team.... I guarantee he could easily turn into a star with some surprising numbers (though not as good as lebron)

Players imo are actually just as good as the opportunities they are given and the confidence they have ......

I mean part of why Lebron is so good is that he was designated as the "chosen one" "king" since high school, opportunity + confidence goes a long way.....
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #613 on: June 16, 2017, 06:13:09 am »
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^I mostly agree to that. Totals are incomplete information, they don't include percentages, TO ratios, gametime, ball touches, clutch etc. Also yes, if you give a player ( not everyone, but there are a lot more than just a few ) the total freedom, he will sum great numbers. But! This is the NBA finals statistics. No random teams get there. And no random player gets the ball so many times. No random players are on the opposite team to guard him. It is not a random coincidence that the previous record holder of most triple doubles was Magic. And the previous record holder for triple double average was... noone.
Yes, Lebron was overly 'marketed' too early and to a very annoying extent. But that does not subtract anything from his actual greatness. For me, at his 32, he is already a strong candidate for GOAT, and this is coming from a hardcore MJ lover that had the joy of being an adult bball fan during MJs prime, i didn't just saw and read it later, i was in my early 20s following it while it was happening.

I have to rephrase your last sentence.

I mean part of why Lebron is so good is that he was designated as the "chosen one" "king" since high school

I mean why Lebron was designated as the "chosen one" "king" since high school is that he is so good
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Re: NBA 2016-2017 Season
« Reply #614 on: June 16, 2017, 09:19:32 am »
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Stat may be potentially cherrypicked cos it wud punish a player who averages similar numbers to lebron in 5 but had to play 6 or 7 games instead of 5. Not that im saying such a player exists. Who knows. 
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