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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #360 on: June 20, 2016, 12:43:56 am »
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #361 on: June 20, 2016, 12:44:50 am »
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Amazing. My gut feeling is if he played with a slightly better cast he'd have a legit triple double average instead of a lebron triple double average. I'm in awe of what he pulled off this post season.  I just hope his legacy now belongs rightfully above MJ not below. There are things MJ could do and there are things only LBJ23 could do - to do it against the odds, coming back from 3-1 down, coming back from being homeless and against a historically great team - it's just amazing. The true king.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #362 on: June 20, 2016, 12:46:46 am »
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #363 on: June 20, 2016, 01:08:25 am »
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Amazing. My gut feeling is if he played with a slightly better cast he'd have a legit triple double average instead of a lebron triple double average. I'm in awe of what he pulled off this post season.  I just hope his legacy now belongs rightfully above MJ not below. There are things MJ could do and there are things only LBJ23 could do - to do it against the odds, coming back from 3-1 down, coming back from being homeless and against a historically great team - it's just amazing. The true king.

I like Lebron but MJ is the GOAT.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #364 on: June 20, 2016, 01:13:12 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #365 on: June 20, 2016, 01:31:39 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??

i'd still put MJ as GOAT.. 6 titles, even while taking a few years off to play baseball. Easily the most clutch player i've ever seen.

not sure the criteria Lebron would have to meet to achieve GOAT status.. his career has wins and losses. MJ didn't know much about losing. Regardless, Lebron is definitely in the overall debate of "GOAT", that's saying something.

fwiw, jordan stuff:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
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10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988)
NBA playoffs all-time leading scorer
Chicago Bulls all-time leading scorer

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #366 on: June 20, 2016, 01:32:56 am »
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #367 on: June 20, 2016, 02:01:23 am »
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i would have easily been a LJ fan but the flopping just does not work for me.

if golden state was healthy, it would have been an easy 4-1 or 4-2 win for the warriors.

if golden state lost to OKC. it would have been a lot worst for cleveland. i don't see LB doing his points in the paint against the canter/adams/ibaka. but so hard to cheer for okc because westbrook is a bitch.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #368 on: June 20, 2016, 02:05:10 am »
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i would have easily been a LJ fan but the flopping just does not work for me.

if golden state was healthy, it would have been an easy 4-1 or 4-2 win for the warriors.

if golden state lost to OKC. it would have been a lot worst for cleveland. i don't see LB doing his points in the paint against the canter/adams/ibaka. but so hard to cheer for okc because westbrook is a bitch.

solid points..

devils advocate, when you're as big and strong as lebron, you're not getting calls unless you act a little. maybe.

i do agree if dubs were healthy they'd have closed out ..

OKC v CLE wud have been an amazing contest and i do think OKC win that. I'm sure KD is sitting there ruing his chances. Honestly, it's unfair to blame one plyaer --- but what were they thinking picking up dion fucking waiters. He cost them game 5. IMHO. Such a scrub, didn't belong on a contender.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #369 on: June 20, 2016, 02:29:30 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??

i'd still put MJ as GOAT.. 6 titles, even while taking a few years off to play baseball. Easily the most clutch player i've ever seen.

not sure the criteria Lebron would have to meet to achieve GOAT status.. his career has wins and losses. MJ didn't know much about losing. Regardless, Lebron is definitely in the overall debate of "GOAT", that's saying something.

fwiw, jordan stuff:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988)
NBA playoffs all-time leading scorer
Chicago Bulls all-time leading scorer

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MJ is the GOAT and BOAT IMO. I have arguments, but maybe in another thread. Don't want to take away from LeBron today, amazing!

One thing I don't know if mentioned yet: LeBron nearly threw down what would have been the greatest finals dunk ever!

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/19/lebron-james-hurts-wrist-free-throw-nba-finals-game-7

I think he hammed up the wrist thing though, just for drama.  ;D

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #370 on: June 20, 2016, 02:34:31 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??

i'd still put MJ as GOAT.. 6 titles, even while taking a few years off to play baseball. Easily the most clutch player i've ever seen.

not sure the criteria Lebron would have to meet to achieve GOAT status.. his career has wins and losses. MJ didn't know much about losing. Regardless, Lebron is definitely in the overall debate of "GOAT", that's saying something.

fwiw, jordan stuff:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988)
NBA playoffs all-time leading scorer
Chicago Bulls all-time leading scorer

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Yeah I think people forget what Jordan did and also who he did it against and especially playing in the golden era of the NBA.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #371 on: June 20, 2016, 02:40:22 am »
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LeBron James becomes the first Player-Coach-GM to win an NBA title, in a Finals that went 7 games, while having a triple-double in game 7, and breaking a wrist with 10.6 seconds left in the game, in Oakland, on Fathers Day, while being a pussy ass bitch. (self.nbacirclejerk)
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #372 on: June 20, 2016, 02:59:14 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??

i'd still put MJ as GOAT.. 6 titles, even while taking a few years off to play baseball. Easily the most clutch player i've ever seen.

not sure the criteria Lebron would have to meet to achieve GOAT status.. his career has wins and losses. MJ didn't know much about losing. Regardless, Lebron is definitely in the overall debate of "GOAT", that's saying something.

fwiw, jordan stuff:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988)
NBA playoffs all-time leading scorer
Chicago Bulls all-time leading scorer

:F

MJ is the GOAT and BOAT IMO. I have arguments, but maybe in another thread. Don't want to take away from LeBron today, amazing!

One thing I don't know if mentioned yet: LeBron nearly threw down what would have been the greatest finals dunk ever!

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/19/lebron-james-hurts-wrist-free-throw-nba-finals-game-7

I think he hammed up the wrist thing though, just for drama.  ;D

ya i mentioned it earlier. i screamed like a little girl when he missed it. i was thinking for sure that was going to be one of the most memorable dunks of all time, then bam, solid foul from Green and Lebron couldn't power through it.

i literally thought he broke his wrist by the way he was rolling around in agony. HEH

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #373 on: June 20, 2016, 04:36:27 am »
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SHAQ is goat but with that win lebron surpasses jordan as an all round player, IMHO. We can argue about it though. Where is t0ddday??

Lol.  I'm here.  Amazing game.  Hats off to the Cavs. 

As far as GOAT arguments.  I don't like them.  GOATS are for track and field.  Not team sports.  LBJ certainly not a bad choice.  Def did some things nobody else could do - which in my mind qualifies you.  I mean Jordan (without Pippen) and Kobe (with Shaq or Gasol) had losing records overall and never won a playoff series... Lebron has zero dependence on any other great player and IMO is capable of elevating a truly bad team to a good but not great team singlehandly better than any other player of all time.  That is worth something.  I mean his 2007 Cavs team that he took to the finals was such a horrible team - I think there is nobody else in history that can lead a team like that to the finals...

Obviously MJ is great and since I was in middle school when he won his last title I do have a nostalgia for him that is quite strong...  But the never lost a championship argument is silly... I mean Jordan didn't go to every championship!  What if Isiah was injured in 1988 and the Bulls snuck past the Pistons and Celtics and got to the NBA finals against the Lakers and got swept?  Would This hypothetical Jordan who made it farther than he did in reality somehow be worse?  Makes no sense...

Anyway both are best players even if over grade offense... Still if I'm down by 3 at the end of the game I want Steph to take shot... Maybe if your down by 1-2 it goes to MJ. Point is they are too difficult to compare

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #374 on: June 20, 2016, 05:38:52 am »
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nba refs are blind as hell - there was one right behind james watching.  7:45 lbj travels (pick up his established pivot foot which was the left) as he pump fakes got Ezeli in air; before there was any contact he switch the pivot foot to right - a very clear violation.  but of course lbj has been allowed travelling all the times throughout his entire career.

it was extremely hard to watch Ezeli and Varejao in the game.  omg they were absolutely terrible...  their stats were horrendous.  absolutely nothing on both side of the floor.  Kerr was down right idiot for playing them two for so long.

lot of bs in this series.  wouldn't have gone as far as saying nba gave it to CLE but nba heavily influence the game to extend the series that was pretty obvious...  nba set it up for to be a 7 game and no matter if GSW or CLE had won nba can spin it as a good story either way.  but with father time rapidly closing on bron bron nba decided to give it to CLE this year.

lbj is such a fake drama queen.  his leg broke the fall already he was purely acting.  just like last year when he crash into the camera in the finals.  his petty acts are why i will never praise him from the heart.

the only i like about him is his collection of epic chase down blocks...  nba's shitty reffing makes it very hard to enjoy the game.  is it too damn much to ask for fair officiating?!  establish the condition of the game early and call it fair on both ends of the floor.  game 7 was pretty good reffing overall but they still allow a lot of holding which i absolutely hate.  game 6, that was nasty bias for CLE, touch fouls in nba finals are a joke.

in the end nba got what they wanted.  this finals series was very unsatisfying for me (even before the final game 7 result).  just didn't like how it went down at all.  WCF was far more epic and tense.
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