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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #300 on: June 17, 2016, 01:18:33 pm »
+1

if Lebron/CLE pulls this off, can't wait to see how lebron-haters spin this one.. maybe they'll diminish it by saying Draymond got suspended, or call it rigged etc. I'd like to see some of them come around though.

Agreed.  Much more interesting to see the reaction if CLE wins.  Also I think could be good for warriors dynasty future to take a loss in year 2 to make them hungrier.  Also, great story for CLE obviously...

My interest in seeing GSW win is mostly because I want to see GSW with AND lebron get finals MVP.  Unless he has an absolute terrible game he is by and away the finals MVP.  Partially because golden state is such a complete squad that there MVP is not clear at all...  But also cause he is just balling... The MVP should not have to come from the winning team and it would be nice to see Lebron become the first player since Jerry West to get it...

One more thing about Lebron and humility...  Part of the reason he is so humble is because he has lost!  That's one thing that's so cool about his character arc... The Jordan (sorta kobe too) story is just amazing individual player on bad team that couldn't get past good teams (celtics, pistons).  Improved.  Got better teammates.  Won pretty much every year their team was a realistic contender...  Lebron is interesting because he has had to be humbled so many times and deal with it...

Even his prediction for game 7 that he just wants to give his all to the team and be satisfied with the result (win or lose)   I mean isn't that what we want to teach kids?  I am paraphrasing but he essentially said his goal is that of course he wants to win but he will be happy and accepting as long as he gives his his 100% to his team.... I saw people ripping him for saying this along the lines of "a real winner would never be happy with a loss and would only accept winning and be angry and hateful if they lose".  What kind of message is this?  A message that everyone who isn't the best should feel like a failure?  Seriously?  What more can you do than your best and congratulate and celebrate the winner whether it is you or not? 

I truly believe that MJ was one of the worst things for sports culture of all time... And I hate saying that because I grew up with him as a sports idol... But he really sent the message that to be the best you have to essentially be a mean person and so competitive that you are a sore loser... Sports is a game after all... If it's making us worse people it's not worth it...

This might be so feel good it makes the other puke... but man... Curry and Klay are so awesome and Lebron is as well that you kinda wish they could both win...  Like I wish NBA was like Track and Field and there were levels of meets and more than one "finals" per year... I like seeing the legacy of Usain Bolt at the olympics but I wouldn't mind seeing Justin Gatlin take a few crowns from him in diamond league or world champs... Or even in Rio...   I hate that come Sunday sports culture will be discussing either "Lebron is a failure, Kevin Love sucks" narrative OR "what's wrong with the Warriors, steph curry is so soft" narrative...  They are both amazing, only one can win, let's enjoy game 7...

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #301 on: June 17, 2016, 08:00:57 pm »
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if Lebron/CLE pulls this off, can't wait to see how lebron-haters spin this one.. maybe they'll diminish it by saying Draymond got suspended, or call it rigged etc. I'd like to see some of them come around though.

Agreed.  Much more interesting to see the reaction if CLE wins.  Also I think could be good for warriors dynasty future to take a loss in year 2 to make them hungrier.  Also, great story for CLE obviously...

My interest in seeing GSW win is mostly because I want to see GSW with AND lebron get finals MVP.  Unless he has an absolute terrible game he is by and away the finals MVP.  Partially because golden state is such a complete squad that there MVP is not clear at all...  But also cause he is just balling... The MVP should not have to come from the winning team and it would be nice to see Lebron become the first player since Jerry West to get it...

One more thing about Lebron and humility...  Part of the reason he is so humble is because he has lost!  That's one thing that's so cool about his character arc... The Jordan (sorta kobe too) story is just amazing individual player on bad team that couldn't get past good teams (celtics, pistons).  Improved.  Got better teammates.  Won pretty much every year their team was a realistic contender...  Lebron is interesting because he has had to be humbled so many times and deal with it...

Even his prediction for game 7 that he just wants to give his all to the team and be satisfied with the result (win or lose)   I mean isn't that what we want to teach kids?  I am paraphrasing but he essentially said his goal is that of course he wants to win but he will be happy and accepting as long as he gives his his 100% to his team.... I saw people ripping him for saying this along the lines of "a real winner would never be happy with a loss and would only accept winning and be angry and hateful if they lose".  What kind of message is this?  A message that everyone who isn't the best should feel like a failure?  Seriously?  What more can you do than your best and congratulate and celebrate the winner whether it is you or not? 

I truly believe that MJ was one of the worst things for sports culture of all time... And I hate saying that because I grew up with him as a sports idol... But he really sent the message that to be the best you have to essentially be a mean person and so competitive that you are a sore loser... Sports is a game after all... If it's making us worse people it's not worth it...

This might be so feel good it makes the other puke... but man... Curry and Klay are so awesome and Lebron is as well that you kinda wish they could both win...  Like I wish NBA was like Track and Field and there were levels of meets and more than one "finals" per year... I like seeing the legacy of Usain Bolt at the olympics but I wouldn't mind seeing Justin Gatlin take a few crowns from him in diamond league or world champs... Or even in Rio...   I hate that come Sunday sports culture will be discussing either "Lebron is a failure, Kevin Love sucks" narrative OR "what's wrong with the Warriors, steph curry is so soft" narrative...  They are both amazing, only one can win, let's enjoy game 7...

Great points. I feel that a lot of people can't separate the on court and off court personalities. You need to be aggressive, imposing and never take a backwards step on the field. Off the field that's a different thing altogether. I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember an on court humble NBA player ever. Lebron isn't. Curry certainly isn't. Jordan nope. Johnson nope. Malone nope. Kobe nope. All the top guys are fierce on court. In fact I'd love to hear the name of 1 top NBA player in the last 30 years who was humble on court.

I'm a massive fan of pretty much all involved in the whole finals series this year. There's been some guys I didn't know much about as I hadn't watched much NBA recently. Having said that the more and more I watch GSW and with the amazing players they have I think they need a loss too. Look at Klay leaving early. Massive sign of disrespect. I think it would do their team some good to learn how to lose well just like Lebron has done in the past. You don't need to like it but you need to be able to accept it.

As far as the spin goes it's really interesting. When OKC won a game I don't remember this same reaction. When CLE wins it's rigged or Lebron flopped or something else happened. But just like Kerr said CLE completely outplayed them. 
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #302 on: June 18, 2016, 05:55:05 pm »
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is it possible to just fast-forward life to Sunday/8 PM ET?

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #303 on: June 18, 2016, 06:37:35 pm »
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#feels

It's only about 25 hours away now.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #304 on: June 19, 2016, 03:15:47 am »
+1
is it possible to just fast-forward life to Sunday/8 PM ET?

Freal.  Was talking about the series earlier and realized this isn't a basketball series.  This is a boxing match between two huge punchers.  After 6 games we have zero point differential and no close games... Last year we had two overtime games in the first three but yet everyone knows this series is better...

It's interesting that such a good story can be told through blowouts!  But so many good stories and massive changes and swings make this a great series...

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #305 on: June 19, 2016, 03:56:54 am »
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is it possible to just fast-forward life to Sunday/8 PM ET?

Freal.  Was talking about the series earlier and realized this isn't a basketball series.  This is a boxing match between two huge punchers.  After 6 games we have zero point differential and no close games... Last year we had two overtime games in the first three but yet everyone knows this series is better...

It's interesting that such a good story can be told through blowouts!  But so many good stories and massive changes and swings make this a great series...

hah, interesting analogy.. ya this is the Gatti / Ward, Castillo / Corrales, Bradley / Provodnikov, Vargas / Miura -> of basketball. Those fights were only close, in how much damage was inflicted each round. Basically fighters trading "blow out rounds". In alot of those fights, the guy who looked done early, came back to win..

round 12 coming soon.

there's something about weathering the storm too.. GSW did it vs OKC.. now CLE is doing it vs GSW. Interesting turn of events.. Two potential 3-1 comebacks.

2016 is the year of the blowouts.. even NFL Superbowl was lopsided.

pc!


also.. LEBRON.  :ninja:

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #306 on: June 19, 2016, 08:19:07 pm »
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pretty nice start to game 7.. the story so far (even tho it's only 8-8) is some major defensive lapses by CLE.. looking so confused on some of those switches etc, leaving guys wide open (for 3 or dunks).. but CLE has made some nasty blocks so far too.

also lebron is being too unselfish so far.. :F

kyrie with a nasty move/shot on Klay.

oracle arena must be deafening.. sounds crazy on tv.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #307 on: June 19, 2016, 08:26:34 pm »
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nasty two hander by Lebron. ;f

man CLE is getting torched on switches.. u can see lebron yelling at JR, there's alot of confusion right now defensively.

odd.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #308 on: June 19, 2016, 09:03:56 pm »
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draymond is playing out of his mind wtf.

he can't miss.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #309 on: June 19, 2016, 09:06:56 pm »
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Yeah man they do look confused on D. Why they hell does no one get a hand up when Green gets the ball. They're giving him way too much opportunity.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #310 on: June 19, 2016, 09:07:54 pm »
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And agreed on Lebron. Being way too unselfish. It's causing turnovers.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #311 on: June 19, 2016, 09:26:26 pm »
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Damn I'm away and not watching. It seemed like cavs have had the let's let draymond beat us mentality all series. They never step up to him.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #312 on: June 19, 2016, 09:33:56 pm »
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GSW opened the quarter hot.. looked bad for CLE.. Klay on fire.

then JR SMITH caught fire. CLE really needs JR hitting shots, good sign.

kyrie with a NASTY baseline move.

52-52.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #313 on: June 19, 2016, 09:44:33 pm »
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as per T0ddday, kyrie is a glassmaster.

some SICK shots.

Lebron is soooo passive.. he's making lots of nice passes but man, he needs to stop hesitating and attack. COME THE F ON LEBRON.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #314 on: June 19, 2016, 09:47:24 pm »
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KYRIE GLASS MASTER. NASTY AND1 WITH HIS LEFT.

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