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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #375 on: June 20, 2016, 04:56:33 pm »
+1
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hp7NfhmGfA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hp7NfhmGfA</a>

nba refs are blind as hell - there was one right behind james watching.  7:45 lbj travels (pick up his established pivot foot which was the left) as he pump fakes got Ezeli in air; before there was any contact he switch the pivot foot to right - a very clear violation.  but of course lbj has been allowed travelling all the times throughout his entire career.

it was extremely hard to watch Ezeli and Varejao in the game.  omg they were absolutely terrible...  their stats were horrendous.  absolutely nothing on both side of the floor.  Kerr was down right idiot for playing them two for so long.

lot of bs in this series.  wouldn't have gone as far as saying nba gave it to CLE but nba heavily influence the game to extend the series that was pretty obvious...  nba set it up for to be a 7 game and no matter if GSW or CLE had won nba can spin it as a good story either way.  but with father time rapidly closing on bron bron nba decided to give it to CLE this year.

lbj is such a fake drama queen.  his leg broke the fall already he was purely acting.  just like last year when he crash into the camera in the finals.  his petty acts are why i will never praise him from the heart.

the only i like about him is his collection of epic chase down blocks...  nba's shitty reffing makes it very hard to enjoy the game.  is it too damn much to ask for fair officiating?!  establish the condition of the game early and call it fair on both ends of the floor.  game 7 was pretty good reffing overall but they still allow a lot of holding which i absolutely hate.  game 6, that was nasty bias for CLE, touch fouls in nba finals are a joke.

in the end nba got what they wanted.  this finals series was very unsatisfying for me (even before the final game 7 result).  just didn't like how it went down at all.  WCF was far more epic and tense.

I just don't think NBA influenced this series as much as you think.. Warriors went up 3-1 and couldn't close it out at home. Sure they didn't have Green, but really, that's 100% on him. I didn't like the suspension but he definitely did a street-fighter punch to Lebron's sack... had he literally just done nothing, and not gotten suspended, it more than likely could have been a 4-1 win by GSW.. BUT GSW OPENED THE DOOR. That's their fault.. Then they couldn't close it out at home. Kerr made some very bad decisions. Curry was pretty much off. Bogut got hurt. Igoudala wasn't 100%. They fell apart.. and, they were falling apart the entire post season..

I think people might forget how beat up they looked by the end of the 73-9 run. Chasing that record really took it's toll on them. Their post season was far from dominant, they had a ton of stuff go against them, most notably Curry's injuries. Then that series with OKC was beyond grueling.

Bottom line, they were up 3-1. They had 3 opportunities to close it out; 2 at home.

That's when Lebron & Kyrie took over.. If Kyrie had never gone full beast mode, GSW would have it's second straight title. We knew Lebron would bring it, but he needed someone else to step up huge.. and that was Kyrie.

IMHO, CLE's wins over GSW were more than fair.



As for OKC being able to kill CLE.. I just remember what MIA did to OKC. Obviously CLE isn't MIA.... home court advantage is everything in the playoffs, and CLE would have had home court over OKC. Cleveland is a strong team defensively, can't deny it.. They make high-scoring west coast teams look like east coast teams, .. hell, that's what the East always does in the finals. These crazy high scoring West teams, get in their vs the East, and then it becomes ugly. Always happens.. OKC vs CLE would have been no different, in that regard.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #376 on: June 20, 2016, 09:05:52 pm »
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came across this piece which is eloquently written.  i must say it is written by a GSW fan.  but it was written before game 7.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/6/18/11970760/sympathy-for-the-devil-an-impartial-explanation-of-nba-officiating

Sympathy for the Devil (an Impartial Explanation of NBA Officiating)
By cgun on Jun 18, 2016, 7:41pm

I've never seen the media flip a narrative so quickly as they have over the last seven days. Then again, we have never seen an NBA series flip so dramatically. Or be flipped. This post is in search of a reason that doesn't rely on conspiracy theories or ignore the obvious bias that propelled this series to game seven.

It starts with the business model adopted by the NBA early in the Stern years. For better or worse, that model was built around the idea that super-stardom attracts more viewers than fair play. As a result the NBA routinely and by design offers favorable rule interpretation to its stars. In the extreme, for the mega stars, it creates rule variations that help the star build legendary status akin to a video game character. The NBA also believes in the over-hyped story line, creating the illusion of rivalry games, and setting up a big stage under which its stars can shine brightest.

Enter the biggest star of his generation. He Flops. He Travels. He runs over defenders. The refs and league are not passive actors in this, they are actively enabling it. He wouldn't get those favors without being a generational talent. But to fans on teams he plays against, or anyone who values competition more than his legendary status, Lebron leaves a trail of controversy and frustration in the wake of his accomplishments.

Lets take a look at the events of last week through these lens.

1. Physical Play. Its was expected that the refs would let the Cavs be physical with the Warriors. There is a long standing practice of allowing physicality in playoffs. Its good that refs don't call as many fouls in the playoffs; neither fans nor the league nor the players want games decided with stars on the bench. The fact that this benefits the Cavs style of play isn't anyone's fault and the Cavs would be foolish to not take advantage of it. Yet there is the smell of a double standard left by overall lousy officiating.

2. Green's Suspension. Inexplicable from a policy standpoint. Why did the league office pick the NBA finals as the right time to suspend a player of Green's stature? Groin contact was neither injury threatening nor malicious. Lebron's actions were far more disrespectful than Green's. In order to achieve this result, the league office had to take the extraordinary steps of (a) imposing a flagrant foul retroactively, (b) reject the judgment of the officials on the floor, (c) base it on conduct that does not clearly fit the criteria established under rule for a flagrant, and (d) create a "groin shot" interpretation that could never be applied as policy across the league. Clearly this was done for a reason other than groin contact policy, player safety or accumulation of flagrants.

3. Steph Fouling Out. With Bogut out, having sacrificed a game to the Green suspension, on the road, a bad start to the game, the warriors claw back to single digits. Then Steph fouls out after two consecutive bad calls that take points off the board, effectively ending the comeback hopes. With all of the physical checking being allowed on Steph and Clay, with Steph being the reigning two time MVP and having his own legacy and superstar status in the spotlight, there are three horrible foul calls on Steph.

Follow the Motives

The league will make approximately $100M as a result of the finals being extended from game 5. Yes, its about money. (Pleased to meet you. Hope you guessed my name.) The league and its owners do not make more of it by the Cavs getting blown out and their superstar losing his luster. The NBA is a business. It makes decisions with the intent of increasing revenue.

The league has been pimping rules to make and monetize stars and perpetuate rivalries since the early days of Stern. The league purposefully assisted careers of all the superstars including Magic, Bird, Michael, Kobe, and its been there to help Lebron along his path since he was a high school player. What's new isn't the money motive, its the extraordinary measure the league took to prevent Dray from playing in a series clinching home game. Greedy and audacious without a doubt. But you don't need a conspiracy to explain this.

They are simply executing their business model.

POLL
Which of the following is the hardest to swallow about this series?

1. Double standard on the physicality allowed

2. Assessing a flagrant foul retroactively for minor (and arguably incidental) groin contact, resulting in suspension of a top player

3. Three phantom (or extremely bad) calls against the reigning two time MVP taking points off the board and effectively terminating hopes of a comeback

4. The NBA is rewarded with another $100M immediately by virtue of making these bad calls

5. The coincidence that all of the above happened, with no factors of significance helping the Warriors

6. Its not hard to swallow because none of that happened

the key two paragraph:

"It starts with the business model adopted by the NBA early in the Stern years. For better or worse, that model was built around the idea that super-stardom attracts more viewers than fair play. As a result the NBA routinely and by design offers favorable rule interpretation to its stars. In the extreme, for the mega stars, it creates rule variations that help the star build legendary status akin to a video game character. The NBA also believes in the over-hyped story line, creating the illusion of rivalry games, and setting up a big stage under which its stars can shine brightest.

Enter the biggest star of his generation. He Flops. He Travels. He runs over defenders. The refs and league are not passive actors in this, they are actively enabling it. He wouldn't get those favors without being a generational talent. But to fans on teams he plays against, or anyone who values competition more than his legendary status, Lebron leaves a trail of controversy and frustration in the wake of his accomplishments."

why does the NBA love LBJ so much?  is there even another super star that is allowed to get away with so much?  i can not think of another player actually.  name another player who gets away with the crap that LBJ does.  if i think about it, LBJ is actually the only player i truly dislike from the heart.  i can not stand his act.

i love the game of basketball very much - especially the skills and the competition aspect of it.  any player that puts winning above sportsmanship i dislike automatically.  for example if if play someone with lot of skills, but goes for the bully ball tactic likes dropping shoulders and play physical offense but starts to call touch fouls i love nothing more to torch them with sheer skills.  i respect people who plays with hustle and heart even if they are slightly less skilled...  but that's just me i guess.  but i know there are many like me.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #377 on: June 20, 2016, 10:08:32 pm »
+2
Have a look at the fouls again:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVVKBIS0TM0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVVKBIS0TM0</a>

Foul 1- Legit - grabbing TT
Foul 2- Legit - still moving sidewards into Lebron- can't be a no call and wasn't a charge
Foul 3- Legit - grabbed Kyrie going around the screen
Foul 4- Legit - hand on Love's forearm as he shoots
Foul 5- Soft/no cal. Contact on the body but to be consistent should have been play on
Foul 6- Borderline. Steph gets some ball and a decent amount of Lebron's hand/wrist - either way GSW are down by 12 with 4min to go and unlikely to win anyway

Also, don't believe Steve Kerr's comments in his post game interview. He was playing the politician and trying to influence the refs in the next game. He figured a fine is worth another win to them.

As far as DG goes. He kicked Adams in the groin twice and nearly kicked someone else in the face. GSW were lucky he wasn't suspended in that series or you wouldn't have even made it to the finals. Suspensions should be made irrelevant of the game or what's on the line. It was a dog act. Lebron disrespected him yeah but also sucked him into the game too.

As far as Lebron goes as you've stated you have a genuine dislike for him. Imagine being Lebron and the amount of contact you would put up with night after night. You talk about double standards. Look at what iggy was getting away with when he was stripping Lebron of the ball in the early games. The body contact that was left uncalled throughout the series was huge and it went both ways.

If I was a GSW fan I would be looking at the stupid shit Steph did late in games (behind the back pass anyone) and the way your major players went cold down the stretch (no score in the last 4 minutes anyone) as more of a reason they lost than the NBA's money making juggernaut. CLE only scored 4 points in the last 3-4 minutes too so it was anyones.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #378 on: June 20, 2016, 10:48:58 pm »
+1
Have a look at the fouls again:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVVKBIS0TM0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVVKBIS0TM0</a>

Foul 1- Legit - grabbing TT
Foul 2- Legit - still moving sidewards into Lebron- can't be a no call and wasn't a charge
Foul 3- Legit - grabbed Kyrie going around the screen
Foul 4- Legit - hand on Love's forearm as he shoots
Foul 5- Soft/no cal. Contact on the body but to be consistent should have been play on
Foul 6- Borderline. Steph gets some ball and a decent amount of Lebron's hand/wrist - either way GSW are down by 12 with 4min to go and unlikely to win anyway

Also, don't believe Steve Kerr's comments in his post game interview. He was playing the politician and trying to influence the refs in the next game. He figured a fine is worth another win to them.

As far as DG goes. He kicked Adams in the groin twice and nearly kicked someone else in the face. GSW were lucky he wasn't suspended in that series or you wouldn't have even made it to the finals. Suspensions should be made irrelevant of the game or what's on the line. It was a dog act. Lebron disrespected him yeah but also sucked him into the game too.

^^ this x100.



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As far as Lebron goes as you've stated you have a genuine dislike for him. Imagine being Lebron and the amount of contact you would put up with night after night. You talk about double standards. Look at what iggy was getting away with when he was stripping Lebron of the ball in the early games. The body contact that was left uncalled throughout the series was huge and it went both ways.

If I was a GSW fan I would be looking at the stupid shit Steph did late in games (behind the back pass anyone) and the way your major players went cold down the stretch (no score in the last 4 minutes anyone) as more of a reason they lost than the NBA's money making juggernaut. CLE only scored 4 points in the last 3-4 minutes too so it was anyones.

yup

let's also not forget that the refs gave Curry a pass on some legit fouls, after he picked up his 5th.. I remember Mark Jackson and Van Gundy basically like "wtf is he doing". He was pretty careless even after picking up his 4th and 5th.. I found it odd. I remember him getting a pass on a legit foul, almost immediately after picking up his 5th.

This finals seemed legit. The worst officiating I can remember was Lakers vs Kings in the early 2000's. I could be wrong, but I remember that being the worst officiating i've ever seen. This was nowhere close to that.

Anyway I like what Coges said.. He put it in the right perspective. I don't think GSW can whine at all about officiating, considering how the GSW/OKC series went down. If Draymond was rightfully suspended in that series, would have been OKC/CLE.. so gsw fans really need to relax.  :ninja:

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #379 on: June 20, 2016, 11:13:09 pm »
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Foul 1 - exactly the type of hold CLE does to Klay and Steph but CLE doesn't get called for it, hence the cry of GSW fans about unfairness.
Foul 2 - no way.  defense was not late.  at most it was same time.  then LBJ drops his shoulder.  it should be a no call, or offensive.  regardless of who was playing that's how i feel about that type of play.
Foul 3 - foul
Foul 4 - foul
Foul 5 - clean strip
Foul 6 - leflop bullshit, annoys me as much as Harden draws fouls...

"either way GSW are down by 12 with 4min to go and unlikely to win anyway".  LMAO.  This is the GSW we're talking about here.  every time GSW was on to something refs killed it.

Interestingly about Steve Kerr in a post game interview I think it was game 6, he constantly mentioned how welled paid they are (NBA players and coaches).  He said it like 5 or 6 times, I had a feeling that the league may have told him, yo it's LBJ's time let him have it, you guys have more chances down the road with the young core.  I mean the way Varejao got extend minutes in game 7?  That was very unusual.  Same with Ezeli's minutes in final minutes.  It made no sense.  Scripted series makes is very hard to watch and enjoy.

Dual conference is also heavily flawed, LBJ gets easy road to the ECF every year because East is a joke.  Yet the casual fans will have no idea and the media will hype the crap out of LBJ's "accomplishment".  Sadly NBA is more like WWE more and more.  The rise of GSW is unscripted and organic which was why it was so enjoyable.  Their style of play (through majority of regular and post season) is the pure essence of the game.  The GSW offense hasn't looked the same in this finals series because NBA allowed all the grabbing and holding.  Say what you will about GSW under performing in this series which is true but NBA's meddling has had a huge negative effect in GSW's style of play.  NBA did all they could to extend the series then tries to act clean in game 7.

Ohh well, I guess I'm just annoyed with how it went down.  I like it fair and I didn't think it was.  I'm not a sore loser in anyway, people beat me fair and square gets 100% of my respect.  I respect skills and even more so, sportsmanship.  So really, I dislike LBJ because I don't think he's a good sportsman because of his petty stuff and I don't think he is as skilled as he can be...

Moving on...  now no more good bball to watch until year end.  Now it'll be an interesting off season for GSW's roster.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #380 on: June 20, 2016, 11:21:59 pm »
+1
Interestingly about Steve Kerr in a post game interview I think it was game 6, he constantly mentioned how welled paid they are (NBA players and coaches).  He said it like 5 or 6 times, I had a feeling that the league may have told him, yo it's LBJ's time let him have it, you guys have more chances down the road with the young core.  I mean the way Varejao got extend minutes in game 7?  That was very unusual.  Same with Ezeli's minutes in final minutes.  It made no sense.  Scripted series makes is very hard to watch and enjoy.

Ohh well, I guess I'm just annoyed with how it went down.  I like it fair and I didn't think it was.  I'm not a sore loser in anyway, people beat me fair and square gets 100% of my respect.  I respect skills and even more so, sportsmanship.  So really, I dislike LBJ because I don't think he's a good sportsman because of his petty stuff and I don't think he is as skilled as he can be...

See that is the actual response of a sore loser. CLE beat GSW fair and square and you're looking for any reason you can to justify the loss. Including throwing your coach under the bus. You think Steve Kerr threw the series because the NBA told him to?  :uhhhfacepalm:

*Edit- I should note that I don't actually follow a CLE. I'm a Lebron fan in the same way I'm a Curry and Klay fan. I have huge amounts of respect for DG and think that Steve Kerr breaking his whiteboard is among the single greatest playoff moves ever. But it all comes back to GSW fucking it up and letting CLE back in the door.
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #381 on: June 21, 2016, 12:13:57 am »
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the finals, lost for an excessive desire to by one man to attack other men's balls.

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #382 on: June 21, 2016, 12:19:08 am »
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #384 on: June 21, 2016, 12:53:15 am »
+1
Interestingly about Steve Kerr in a post game interview I think it was game 6, he constantly mentioned how welled paid they are (NBA players and coaches).  He said it like 5 or 6 times, I had a feeling that the league may have told him, yo it's LBJ's time let him have it, you guys have more chances down the road with the young core.  I mean the way Varejao got extend minutes in game 7?  That was very unusual.  Same with Ezeli's minutes in final minutes.  It made no sense.  Scripted series makes is very hard to watch and enjoy.

LMFAO. just like the NFL told Cam Newton and the panthers to take an L so Manning could go out with a superbowl.. these kinds of theories are absolutely nuts.

snap out of it.. :)

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #385 on: June 21, 2016, 03:21:20 am »
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NBA = best 4 of 7 vs. NFL 1 games winner takes all is vastly different.  Although I haven't watched NCAA in a while, I remember I used to enjoy it more than NBA because it was more pure in many aspects...
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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #386 on: June 21, 2016, 03:33:25 am »
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Interestingly about Steve Kerr in a post game interview I think it was game 6, he constantly mentioned how welled paid they are (NBA players and coaches).  He said it like 5 or 6 times, I had a feeling that the league may have told him, yo it's LBJ's time let him have it, you guys have more chances down the road with the young core.  I mean the way Varejao got extend minutes in game 7?  That was very unusual.  Same with Ezeli's minutes in final minutes.  It made no sense.  Scripted series makes is very hard to watch and enjoy.

LMFAO. just like the NFL told Cam Newton and the panthers to take an L so Manning could go out with a superbowl.. these kinds of theories are absolutely nuts.

snap out of it.. :)

Goddamn.  Seriously.  This is ridiculous.  He has already filled up the forum with subtle racist BS and now his conspiracy theory's that explain why his team lost.  Grow up.  Seriously, a waste of time but here is the rundown of why your an idiot. 

1) Ok.  It's scripted.  You proved it.  So STOP watching.  Let the rest of us idiots enjoy.  The WWF is scripted.  I don't watch.  I also don't go on forums talking about the WWF and complain it's scripted.  You think it's scripted so either enjoy the script or stop watching!!! 

Funny thing is... I bet if GSW wins you wouldn't say it's scripted.  I bet if the script fits your narrative it's not scripted.  Seriously, grow the hell up.  Have you ever played a high level sport in your life?  Have you ever lined up in the blocks against people better than you?  Have you ever got in a boxing ring against a superior man?   You don't work for the Warriors, you don't have an inside view, you make no money on it... But you think it's scripted while those who actually play for the Warriors take the loss humbly and praise the better team...

But wait... You have a solution for this... The solution is Kerr is in on it.   Probably some of GSW players are in on it?   So why the hell do you support GSW?  Seriously, How are you cheering for the team that loses on purpose to get paid off?

Again, because these theories only exist as excuses the years your team loses!

2) Its not scripted.  Ever heard of the San Antonio Spurs?   Yeah.  Small market.  Horrible for TV money.  Yet they keep playing in finals at the expense of big markets...   A scripted NBA would not allow the Spurs!

3) Do you know what happened this series?  The number 1 team from each conference made finals (exactly what would be expected).   Then six blowouts.  You think referring was so scripted that it caused blowouts?  You think referees can get away with altering calls so much to cause blowouts without altering anyone but you?  Sorry but when you lose by 30 you don't complain about calls...

Now game seven.  Those same refs who orchestrated blowouts earlier keep sucking and manipulate the series to a tie game with less than a minute... Kyrie hits clutch three, chased own block, etc...

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #387 on: June 21, 2016, 03:44:38 am »
+4


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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #388 on: June 21, 2016, 05:07:09 am »
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it's real.. NICE.

nice message to all of the haters/doubters.



that "real view" tho..  :ninja:

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Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« Reply #389 on: June 21, 2016, 05:10:39 am »
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Interestingly about Steve Kerr in a post game interview I think it was game 6, he constantly mentioned how welled paid they are (NBA players and coaches).  He said it like 5 or 6 times, I had a feeling that the league may have told him, yo it's LBJ's time let him have it, you guys have more chances down the road with the young core.  I mean the way Varejao got extend minutes in game 7?  That was very unusual.  Same with Ezeli's minutes in final minutes.  It made no sense.  Scripted series makes is very hard to watch and enjoy.

LMFAO. just like the NFL told Cam Newton and the panthers to take an L so Manning could go out with a superbowl.. these kinds of theories are absolutely nuts.

snap out of it.. :)

Goddamn.  Seriously.  This is ridiculous.  He has already filled up the forum with subtle racist BS and now his conspiracy theory's that explain why his team lost.  Grow up.  Seriously, a waste of time but here is the rundown of why your an idiot. 

1) Ok.  It's scripted.  You proved it.  So STOP watching.  Let the rest of us idiots enjoy.  The WWF is scripted.  I don't watch.  I also don't go on forums talking about the WWF and complain it's scripted.  You think it's scripted so either enjoy the script or stop watching!!! 

Funny thing is... I bet if GSW wins you wouldn't say it's scripted.  I bet if the script fits your narrative it's not scripted.  Seriously, grow the hell up.  Have you ever played a high level sport in your life?  Have you ever lined up in the blocks against people better than you?  Have you ever got in a boxing ring against a superior man?   You don't work for the Warriors, you don't have an inside view, you make no money on it... But you think it's scripted while those who actually play for the Warriors take the loss humbly and praise the better team...

But wait... You have a solution for this... The solution is Kerr is in on it.   Probably some of GSW players are in on it?   So why the hell do you support GSW?  Seriously, How are you cheering for the team that loses on purpose to get paid off?

Again, because these theories only exist as excuses the years your team loses!

2) Its not scripted.  Ever heard of the San Antonio Spurs?   Yeah.  Small market.  Horrible for TV money.  Yet they keep playing in finals at the expense of big markets...   A scripted NBA would not allow the Spurs!

3) Do you know what happened this series?  The number 1 team from each conference made finals (exactly what would be expected).   Then six blowouts.  You think referring was so scripted that it caused blowouts?  You think referees can get away with altering calls so much to cause blowouts without altering anyone but you?  Sorry but when you lose by 30 you don't complain about calls...

Now game seven.  Those same refs who orchestrated blowouts earlier keep sucking and manipulate the series to a tie game with less than a minute... Kyrie hits clutch three, chased own block, etc...

not sure how anyone could rebuttal this.. the part about, if Kerr is in on it, then why are you a GSW fan? etc.. game over.

HEH.

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Seriously, How are you cheering for the team that loses on purpose to get paid off?

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still so happy for Lebron.. been happy about it all day. maybe that's why my training went so good today too, just been in an extra good mood seeing him achieve this.