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Title: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 23, 2017, 01:28:54 am
This guy has air balled freethrows to the left or right.... it's never been done in the nba, people have airballed short, but never to the left or right of the hoop.....

you'd think since he's playing elite bball he might want to correct his form or work on it..... if he can't even do that than maybe he shouldnt be in nba and be an orchard picker or something.

0:35, wtf is that..... how do you miss an open shot 3 feet to the right or left....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD2aOq2FjKc
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: vag on August 23, 2017, 08:12:22 am
Reality check : this "big douche bag" that "shouldnt be in nba and be an orchard picker or something" has a near double double career average, between other awards and achievements was 2 times an all star and 2 times in NBA-all-defensive team and is on a 75 million contract earning 17.5 million dollars a year! You mad? You jelly?
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 23, 2017, 08:28:48 am
Douche bag?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEg6Z2fJZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70pRb1APbo

Basketball ain't all about shooting, which it seems appeals to you and it's good to have, but this guy is a monster in defense and will dunk all over the players and works well with the team, so one negative, which is outshine by the many positives that the negative is not going to affect his game. Note: He is in the NBA, they wouldn't have let him join; noting it is nearly impossible to get on the NBA, if he was bad.

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0:35, wtf is that..... how do you miss an open shot 3 feet to the right or left....

Near the three point line? quite easily. How do you miss a free throw? You don't it just happens sometimes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawlTEmBEns
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 23, 2017, 11:57:03 am
joakim isn't a shooter. if it were easy to fix, he would. that's probably due to over a million shots with bad form.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-sPfgKNK-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi6fftt43xo

in the video you linked the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d69Xwt1btY


and those are paid shooters ^^^

:/
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 23, 2017, 12:50:30 pm
here's the most simple solution to this "story". anyone (FDL) who thinks it's easy to improve freethrows/shooting percentage, do this:

1. train the ability to shoot with your off hand
2. once you get proficient, report back
3. use it in games, report back

it's a solid experiment IMHO... most people are virgins with their off hand, here you have a clean slate.. can start from scratch with perfect form.

I've done it .. took like 6 months to get really good with my left in practice, then another 6-12 months to be able to pull it off confidently in games (mostly street games, wasn't playing in leagues/school at the time). I was a shooter though.. the hardest part if the confidence of using it in a game. So, take that idea to someone who shoots with "sh*t form" or has confidence issues to begin with, or someone who just isn't a good shooter, and try to develop the ability to shoot high percentage freethrows in games?? it's so damn difficult. If it weren't difficult, these guys you see being paid millions of dollars would just do it.. does anyone here think they want to shoot 60% or less from the line?

that's why this argument always annoys me..

if it were easy, they would fix it. no one in their right mind would want to keep bricking freethrows especially in critical situations. You can even have amazing shooters who can't hit freethrows & shots in the clutch, there's a massive mental/sports psychology side of it in actual games.

heh.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 23, 2017, 01:20:24 pm
Reality check : this "big douche bag" that "shouldnt be in nba and be an orchard picker or something" has a near double double career average, between other awards and achievements was 2 times an all star and 2 times in NBA-all-defensive team and is on a 75 million contract earning 17.5 million dollars a year! You mad? You jelly?

Oh come on Vag, I'm not jelly. Maybe a little mad because I took 2 years off which was valuable time to train....

But Noah, I understand he was a good asset to a team due to his length and intensity and his contributino to the intangibles....

But how are you not able to at least work on your shot so it's not always on a side spin? Even shaq, dwight, etc all work on their shot so that it at least has a back spin.....

And he was becoming a liability last year.....
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 23, 2017, 10:51:32 pm
hehe, keep the negs coming, more fuel to reach 40 svj!
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: acole14 on August 24, 2017, 12:05:46 am
hehe, keep the negs coming, more fuel to reach 40 svj!

Do you have any jump videos?
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 12:49:43 am
no jump videos, too much landing force on the knees and feet
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 01:22:31 am
Douche bag?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEg6Z2fJZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70pRb1APbo

Basketball ain't all about shooting, which it seems appeals to you and it's good to have, but this guy is a monster in defense and will dunk all over the players and works well with the team, so one negative, which is outshine by the many positives that the negative is not going to affect his game. Note: He is in the NBA, they wouldn't have let him join; noting it is nearly impossible to get on the NBA, if he was bad.

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0:35, wtf is that..... how do you miss an open shot 3 feet to the right or left....

Near the three point line? quite easily. How do you miss a free throw? You don't it just happens sometimes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawlTEmBEns

2013 - 2014, it's 2017 right now....

Let's see his latest stat line:

(https://i.gyazo.com/a2fad975e8113fdccb2c24536d719876.png)

i mean if he's not getting rebounds or defending his man, what else is he good for? An empty garbage bin put on the court will eventually get a rebound as well.....
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 01:44:09 am
Smoking pot and staying late at night clubs doesn't help one get better in their career, especially if done habitually

yes and he also likes codeine syrup, a lighter form of the class of drugs known as opiates


(http://i.imgur.com/yqpmFc8.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/7b597f9839ccfcc80f3c9ca326861510.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/58d974903cbcf69634347f90e96c992b.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/50e89ac25b329a8beb1f2a037c55920e.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/e247ac2e0cf0e0ff59f81ecf0513b2fa.png)

but go on, let's applaud him for being a class act athlete.  :highfive:  If i was the owner of a bball organization and was paying a guy 17,000,000+ a year to be a solid bball player, id at least hope he puts more dedication to getting better than living the fast life.....
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 24, 2017, 01:55:11 am
but go on, let's applaud him for being a class act athlete.  :highfive:  If i was the owner of a bball organization and was paying a guy 17,000,000+ a year to be a solid bball player, id at least hope he puts more dedication to getting better than living the fast life.....

but you're not.. sounds like you spend alot of your time degrading others & not looking inward, improving yourself.

to use your analogy above: you're basically the garbage bin of this forum.

but hey, let's applaud you for creating shit posts all day & proving the neg button works.


and hold up.. don't you fucking smoke cigs and e-cigs/vape? wtf?

arrogant as fuck.

maybe you were onto something in that other post I just replied to .. go away.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 02:00:54 am
No I don't smoke ecigs anymore, quit for a few months.

I didn't know it was arrogant to call out someone that is totally disrespecting the league with his behavior and the NY bball organization, known as the "mecca of bball"

adios!
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 24, 2017, 02:11:11 am
No I don't smoke ecigs anymore, quit for a few months.

I didn't know it was arrogant to call out someone that is totally disrespecting the league with his behavior and the NY bball organization, known as the "mecca of bball"

adios!

interesting .. you have problems with Joakim disrespecting the league, but no problem disrespecting athletes when they fail to live up to your expectations, no problem disrespecting people personally on this forum - in addition, without facts which makes it even worse, no problem disrespecting the forum in general.

some introspection is severely needed...

your arrogance seems toxic to your improvement & ability to get along with others.

and if adios means "goodbye forever" or something like that, then i guess good riddance.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 03:54:11 am
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 24, 2017, 04:45:07 am
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

ADARQ acheived beast mode in vert training already, now he is becoming a beast in running
LBSS Achieved beast mode in vert training already, now he is becoming a beast in calisthenics
Raptor already achieved beast mode in vert training already, now he is becoming a beast in physics
Entropy already achieved beast mode in vert training already, now he is becoming a beast physically
and many more others have achieved beast mode

I myself have yet to reach beast mode and am still training to get there and I am lucky to have the people above who have achieved it to be here to help people like myself and you would be too if you were less arrogant and more humble.

Adarq.org - Choose your passion and become a beast in it.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: acole14 on August 24, 2017, 08:53:41 am
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

I still very much train for vertical, and I will race you to a pre-determined % increase on your initial vertical jump if you want (mine is 30-31'' atm). This is literally the last offer you will get here as you've somehow managed to piss off the most tolerant and good-natured moderator on the internet. Like I said before, no hard feelings on my part, and I think you need motivation to stop you getting distracted and melting down all over everyone's favourite forum.

I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc. If you leave that behind and focus on becoming KF-like (which you are sort of doing), you'll make great gains. You need to trim a ton of fat, get your posture right, start doing athletic movements (avoiding jumping is not the best thing for you, you need co-ordination and RFD. Tempo sprints would be dynamite for you right now) and generally stop complaining/trolling all over the forum. Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in. My 2c, possibly the last you'll get.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 24, 2017, 01:24:10 pm
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

I still very much train for vertical, and I will race you to a pre-determined % increase on your initial vertical jump if you want (mine is 30-31'' atm). This is literally the last offer you will get here as you've somehow managed to piss off the most tolerant and good-natured moderator on the internet. Like I said before, no hard feelings on my part, and I think you need motivation to stop you getting distracted and melting down all over everyone's favourite forum.

I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc. If you leave that behind and focus on becoming KF-like (which you are sort of doing), you'll make great gains. You need to trim a ton of fat, get your posture right, start doing athletic movements (avoiding jumping is not the best thing for you, you need co-ordination and RFD. Tempo sprints would be dynamite for you right now) and generally stop complaining/trolling all over the forum. Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in. My 2c, possibly the last you'll get.

thanks i really like competition, that is why i like bball so much.

but it is not a fair contest, i have about 40 lb of fat/water weight, while you are already more lean.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 24, 2017, 03:32:55 pm
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

I still very much train for vertical, and I will race you to a pre-determined % increase on your initial vertical jump if you want (mine is 30-31'' atm). This is literally the last offer you will get here as you've somehow managed to piss off the most tolerant and good-natured moderator on the internet. Like I said before, no hard feelings on my part, and I think you need motivation to stop you getting distracted and melting down all over everyone's favourite forum.

I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc. If you leave that behind and focus on becoming KF-like (which you are sort of doing), you'll make great gains. You need to trim a ton of fat, get your posture right, start doing athletic movements (avoiding jumping is not the best thing for you, you need co-ordination and RFD. Tempo sprints would be dynamite for you right now) and generally stop complaining/trolling all over the forum. Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in. My 2c, possibly the last you'll get.

Just good points in general.  :headbang:

"I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc."

^ The genetic dud mentality is toxic, we've seen this attitude alot. If someone finds themselves doing it: acknowledge it & try hard to purge it from the brain. I've had thoughts like that, anyone can get them, but they are most often more destructive than constructive & should be acknowledged as such.

The mental game of improving athletically is very important; this is one of many components someone may need to address in order to avoid sabotaging themselves.



"Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in."

^ Gold.

I know alot about anger training. I've used it quite successfully for long periods of time (years), but like acole said, it *never* lasts. When you use anger as fuel, it burns strong for a while. But once that anger is gone, you find yourself completely lost. It's very hard to re-establish a new motivation as fuel once that happens, instead it almost seems like one needs a long period to "reset", while utilizing some kind of maintenance work to avoid detraining completely.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: maxent on August 24, 2017, 03:58:17 pm
I saw this article on hackernews earlier today and thought it might be relevant:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/05/why-you-should-step-away-from-the-online-you

it's okay to reinvent yourself
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: adarqui on August 24, 2017, 05:02:51 pm
I saw this article on hackernews earlier today and thought it might be relevant:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/05/why-you-should-step-away-from-the-online-you

it's okay to reinvent yourself

TBH, i'd rather reinvent (rearchitect) my real self than invent fake selves. If my online-self sucks, i'd rather improve it & thus improve my real self.

If I had to say anything i've improved over the years online, it would be my ability to not respond to fire with fire. I used to respond to most of the negative comments on my dunk/jump videos, or in threads on other forums etc. I've slowly trained the ability to either ignore those comments, or respond more professionally. I prefer the new me, rather than the "fire with fire" me. I've also personally found it easier to eviscerate people attacking me by responding respectfully & thoughtfully, rather than emotionally. That is perhaps very relevant to recent discussions.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: acole14 on August 24, 2017, 10:25:32 pm
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

I still very much train for vertical, and I will race you to a pre-determined % increase on your initial vertical jump if you want (mine is 30-31'' atm). This is literally the last offer you will get here as you've somehow managed to piss off the most tolerant and good-natured moderator on the internet. Like I said before, no hard feelings on my part, and I think you need motivation to stop you getting distracted and melting down all over everyone's favourite forum.

I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc. If you leave that behind and focus on becoming KF-like (which you are sort of doing), you'll make great gains. You need to trim a ton of fat, get your posture right, start doing athletic movements (avoiding jumping is not the best thing for you, you need co-ordination and RFD. Tempo sprints would be dynamite for you right now) and generally stop complaining/trolling all over the forum. Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in. My 2c, possibly the last you'll get.

thanks i really like competition, that is why i like bball so much.

but it is not a fair contest, i have about 40 lb of fat/water weight, while you are already more lean.

Well however you want to cut it, e.g. I go from 30-->35'' SVJ vs you going from 24-->30'' SVJ. I have a lot of strength to gain and no newbie gains on jump, whereas you need to drop weight and maintain strength, plus newbie gains from not jumping at all. Of course I'd just be happy to see you training hard, getting healthy and generally not annoying everyone.
Title: Re: Something is wrong with this big douche bag.....
Post by: fast does lie on August 25, 2017, 12:19:33 am
I dunno, maybe I should leave this forum, not many vertical jump guys are even here anymore ...... you don't train for vert, lbss doesn't anymore, raptor is gone, chrism isn't here too much, entropy is doing a lot of overall strength.....

it's down to myself, scooby, and maybe seif and fp that actually train specifically for vert/speed......

I still very much train for vertical, and I will race you to a pre-determined % increase on your initial vertical jump if you want (mine is 30-31'' atm). This is literally the last offer you will get here as you've somehow managed to piss off the most tolerant and good-natured moderator on the internet. Like I said before, no hard feelings on my part, and I think you need motivation to stop you getting distracted and melting down all over everyone's favourite forum.

I think you really struggle with the perception that you got stuck with a dud genetic mix - this is evident from your numerous posts about PEDs, athletes wasting talent etc. If you leave that behind and focus on becoming KF-like (which you are sort of doing), you'll make great gains. You need to trim a ton of fat, get your posture right, start doing athletic movements (avoiding jumping is not the best thing for you, you need co-ordination and RFD. Tempo sprints would be dynamite for you right now) and generally stop complaining/trolling all over the forum. Despite what you think, you can only train on anger for so long before you get burnt out. Better to feed off the positive energy of your gains as they come in. My 2c, possibly the last you'll get.

thanks i really like competition, that is why i like bball so much.

but it is not a fair contest, i have about 40 lb of fat/water weight, while you are already more lean.

Well however you want to cut it, e.g. I go from 30-->35'' SVJ vs you going from 24-->30'' SVJ. I have a lot of strength to gain and no newbie gains on jump, whereas you need to drop weight and maintain strength, plus newbie gains from not jumping at all. Of course I'd just be happy to see you training hard, getting healthy and generally not annoying everyone.

That sounds a lot better. I'll think of some proposal that is fair and competitive. I have depression problems some time so I get bored and start to annoy people.