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Title: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 09:29:17 am
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Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 09:42:10 am
What happens on Aug 26?

Mayweather v McGregor

lol i'm not looking forward to that at all, mcgregor is going to get slaughtered.... no fun when u know exactly whats going to happen....

FWIW I think Mayweather wins but...

At worst McGregor has a punchers chance. He carries concrete in his hands and is a unique mover. He will come in bigger than Floyd with reach to boot and if Floyd is as defensive as he would normally be then McGregor has so much more freedom to move around. I think it's going to be a really interesting fight.

I disagree. McGregor has a puncher's chance in the same way a meteor has a chance of falling on the ring and killing Floyd :D

Floyd will be able to do whatever he wants to Conor.. The question is really: will he string it out to give the fans "more action" and play with him to make it a longer fight? I imagine he will.

Personally, i'd like to see him end Conor in round 1 and just be done with it..

If they were fighting in MMA, i'd say Conor would destroy Floyd, absolutely no chance, not even a puncher's chance. These sports are just way too different.

Conor has never seen anything like Floyd's speed/reflexes/stamina/movement in a ring. And he can't slow it down by tackling Floyd to take it to the ground or kicking his legs etc. He's just a sitting duck.

As for Conor having concrete hands, sure maybe in MMA.. but I imagine not at all in boxing. Boxers fight with bigger gloves & have better chins, they are all about taking head punishment. Lots of these MMA fighters seem to have glass chins - could be due to the gloves but, I imagine it has more to do with less hardening of themselves to proper head trauma while growing up. They probably spent more time wrestling, doing BJJ, doing more weak sparring than the stuff you see in these brutal boxing gyms around the world etc. Boxer's usually have hundreds of amateur fights, and spar hard af in some really grimy gyms while they are growing up.

dno.. i'd be shocked if Conor lands anything impressive.. or even if he looks impressive at all. He'll have maybe 1 round (the first) where he has an ounce of confidence and will look sharp .. but after that, he's going to be Floyd's play toy.

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Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 09:44:38 am
If you want to see Floyd vs Conor early, this is how it'll probably look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA

^^ The Matrix.

and Gatti was a really good (not elite) boxer with a chin of granite & decent hand speed.

:ninja: :ninja:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 15, 2017, 10:07:49 am
Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Even if mayweather lets mcgregor hit him or show off his defence, it will still suck, just look at the andre berto fight, a disaster waiting to happen, mayweather was toying with him on the ropes and even with that the fight still sucked.

EDIT: Then you see these type of BS:

http://www.boxingscene.com/white-mayweather-mcgregor-bigger-mayweather-pacquiao--117545

as if fight fans will buy this fight thinking its going to be better than may vs pac, which was the only most wanted fight both boxers, both #1.
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“Yes, of course,” Ellerbe said. “Why not? You’ve gotta understand, obviously with Mayweather-Pacquiao, and Stephen can attest to this, that was a fight that the fans had been talking about for years. There’s not one place that I go to, that Floyd goes to, that anybody affiliated or associated with Floyd Mayweather [goes to], that [we don’t get] asked the question, ‘Floyd, are you gonna fight Conor McGregor?’ This is a very, very hot fight and this is a fight that the fans want. It’s gonna be a tremendous event. The fans wanted this fight."

Even the promo to this fight is bs especially when it comes from people who fail at hyping it up. A quote from dana white:
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'Floyd Mayweather is 40 years old, he's always had problems with southpaws. Conor McGregor is 27 and he is a southpaw. Whenever Conor hits people, they fall.

The more I see of this the more I hate this fight.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 12:59:55 pm
I bought pretty much every Mayweather PPV fight.. can't think of one I didn't pay for. I definitely WILL NOT be ordering that PPV.

I mean, if we look at it just from a circus perspective, it's kind of fun.. But from a fight fan purist perspective, it's complete garbage.

It's kind of like Ali vs Hulk Hogan .. nothing wrong with it.. It's just some circus/entertainment stuff. This is slightly different in that it'll be a REAL FIGHT, but still, it's mostly a circus event.

So i'll just continue to look at it from the circus perspective & appreciate that for what it is.

The idea of Floyd breaking Marciano's record with a fight like this, instead of fighting GGG, is very annoying though. Hard to not let that annoy you if you're a "fight fan". :/
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 05:03:23 pm
eek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w

(also, why the F did they put that sh*t music in the video)



love this interview with Heerden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GHTKvtGMQ

LMAO.

Heerden: "Conor is good. He'd beat some pros at 147"
Interview: "Like who? How about <lists like 12 names>"

Every response from Heerden was "no" with a laugh.. lmao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 15, 2017, 08:33:33 pm
If you want to see Floyd vs Conor early, this is how it'll probably look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA

^^ The Matrix.

and Gatti was a really good (not elite) boxer with a chin of granite & decent hand speed.

:ninja: :ninja:

C'mon man Gatti thought the ref was stepping in and Floyd hit him with his hands down.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 15, 2017, 08:40:03 pm
Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.

Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is. 
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 10:15:48 pm
Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.

it's not necessarily less physically demanding, it's just WAY different.. I mean it's like elite 400m guys vs 800m guys. And in terms of speed, it's like a world class tennis player vs a world class ping pong player. I'm not saying boxing or mma are one or the other, in those examples I gave.. I'm just saying that elites in each sport, are going to have a serious problem transitioning into each other's sport, even if they are more similar than not.

If PBF had to grapple on the ground, he'd gas easy. Conor isn't a pure boxer, I mean he gassed against Nate Diaz IIRC. He's going to be in there, for his first ever professional boxing match against one of the greatest boxer's of all time, who is presumably still in amazing shape. Floyd is dedicated beyond belief, probably still dedicated in retirement too.

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Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is.

Definitely, 5x5 is serious..

He's fought 0 rounds in a pro boxing match though, against a guy who has never gassed in his entire career, and is known for sparring non-stop without rest breaks while they throw fresh sparring partners (pro boxers) in there with him.



Everyone seems to forget that Conor got outboxed (in the 2nd round) by slow as hell - but good boxer, Nate Diaz..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STTttVqXjs

I mean he got caught several times, rocked, then choked out. Nate Diaz is slow af... but he's also tough af with decent boxing.



FWIW, Anderson Silva actually has a professional boxing record, he's 1-1 with 1 KO loss.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 10:20:38 pm
Unless Floyd has been smoking pot, drinking lean, and shooting up heroin all this time up until the fight.... mcgregor has no chance.....

I bet half of the people on adarq.org could stand a good chance vs mcgregor in a boxing match if we trained for it...... cause we all have sick core/back and leg strength from all the squats anyway....

absolutely not, LMFAO.

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and im sure floyd has been training too.... if pac man couldn't do shit to floyd.... what is mcgregor going to do? kick him in the nuts?

fight would be awesome if it was in the octagon....

that would be a decent "equalizer".. boxing in an octagon is very difficult. I did it a few times, when I used to box. I was used to the ring, and sparred some mma guys in the octagon instead of the ring. Guys I had no problem with in a ring, had me wrecked up against the cage. You forget it's a cage and just get owned because there's nowhere to go. With ropes, you can evade into the ropes, spring back for hard counters, etc.. Not in an octagon.

That's a good idea.. too bad they won't do that.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 15, 2017, 10:25:20 pm
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 10:57:25 pm
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 11:03:59 pm
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

lol i guess fighting analysis is not my expertise, i should stick with bball..... i know this mma guy at my gym and he never does heavy squats, he could barely do 135 full squat..... that is why i thought if some of the stronger oly lifters switched to boxing training, might do pretty well.....

Lifting has nothing to do with fighting though. An MMA fighter with weak lifts could pull you into a clinch and land a knee or elbow on your chin and you're gone.

Oly lifters trying to transition to boxing doesn't sound like a good idea either, unless you're talking at like, 5-6 years old, not adults.

Think of boxing like this: it's like being able to dribble a basketball like Kyrie. Now go try and teach an oly lifter how to dribble a basketball like Kyrie, without defense. Then, when you finally get them to that level, now put some collegiate or pro defense on them. I imagine you're probably thinking, "impossible".. Same with fight sports - for the most part. It's very rare that you get people who didn't start as kids, or young teens. Extremely rare to see people transition/take it on as adults/20's+.

Deontay Wilder is one example.. Took up boxing at ~18-20 or so? Became heavy weight champ.. Has some insane power. Decent boxer.. But he's going to have to fight some serious names soon, and he'll probably get owned.

ie, Anthony Joshua will probably destroy him.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 11:29:45 pm
Just for any1 who hasn't seen Mayweather Jr. get hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofeqQ_ljCk

Biggest shots he's taken are from Maidana and Mosley.

Anyway, these are top pros (some elites) in those clips, hitting him with some clean shots - which doesn't happen often.. Those shots could have been his undoing, but he's got a pretty serious chin for someone who never gets hit. Most people who hate getting hit, they don't have granite chins.. Mayweather has a granite chin.

I guess the only risk for Mayweather is breaking his hands on Conor's head. Mayweather has had brittle hands his entire career.. In that clip, you see him go down once as he breaks his hand. It's also one reason he strings fights out more as he got older - didn't want to break his hands early on. He's fought several fights with his hands broken though, so it's not like it's going to make him quit.. He can still wreck people with broken hands.. lmao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 15, 2017, 11:41:11 pm
^ isee. what about the lower body explosiveness an oly lifter/olysprinter can carry over to his punch? and his ability to move his legs and squat to dodge punch should be effortless and feel like he's floating cause his legs r so strong.... that's gotta be some kind of advantage compared to a boxer that has flamingo legs, or am i just clueless?

ur being clueless :ninja:

it's mostly about technique, timing, and speed.

It's like trying to get an olympic lifter, bodybuilder, or powerlifter to try and hit a fast tennis serve. Some lanky stringbean dude with good technique is going to destroy them by hitting it 140 mph, whilst the strength people will struggle to hit it 70 mph. It's very similar with punching.

Most boxer's aren't built like bulls - ie Mike Tyson.. He was a tank. He's probably similar to this prototype you're thinking about, but beyond the strength & mass, he had incredible speed & amazing timing. Most boxer's aren't built like that. Just like most tennis players aren't built like Nadal - who is the Tyson of tennis.

It's funny though I mean, you're talking about oly lifter/oly sprinter's trying to transfer that ability to a punch - which is perfected via millions of punches with proper technique.. and those oly lifters/sprinters have "perfected" technique themselves. So in the same way some strong af dude can't just transition that to impressive oly lifts, it's even harder to take that ability and apply it to something "unweighted" like a tennis serve, punch, baseball pitch, basketball shot, etc.

technique > *

And regarding basketball, look at Steph Curry.. Most range we've seen in a shooter for quite some time in the NBA.. And he's considered weak.

technique > *
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 15, 2017, 11:59:46 pm
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 16, 2017, 12:14:23 am
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 16, 2017, 12:22:29 am
Lol, but a random would probably fair much better in regular boxing than kick boxing, did you know how to kick?

Yeah I was a pretty good kicker but not a great boxer. Still not a great boxer.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 16, 2017, 12:28:23 am
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 16, 2017, 12:29:47 am
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.

:highfive:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: ChrisM on June 16, 2017, 01:45:42 am
Is this really a discussion? PBF is going to point his ass TO DEATH. Conors stand up/striking is VERY basic compared to a world class boxer and all this bs hes spewing about hitting harder than anyone Floyds fought? Bahahaha. No. Im sure he thinks he hits hard af but what adarq said above is key...

Technique>*.

Conor won't go down easy but he's in for  a world of surprises the first time Floyd catches him with a clean counter. When youve thrown MILLIONS of punches with great technique... you hit hard. He doesnt hit hard as a BOXER but compared to an MMA fighter? Smh.

Ive got some friends who are pretty decent MMA guys and they can hit but its NOTHING compared to a couple boxing buddies. I got stung clean AF from a right cross sparring a boxing friend in college and it slowed me way more than any shot ive taken messing around with my mma friends. And he was 146lbs vs my 170. Long, lanky and quick as shit lol!

Correction: my best friends dad is like a 30yr wing chun expert... I sparred him once. I laughed at my buddy when he said id never see it coming (Ive dabbled with some boxing and mma stuff, every guy should lol, self defense and a great ego check).... I saw the first one, parried, saw a glimpse of the left and never saw the 2nd right hand. At all. Just went down on 1 knee trying to decide what happened and if i should get up. :)
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 16, 2017, 09:33:15 am
Is this really a discussion?

The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

It does look like we've had fun discussing some of it though.



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PBF is going to point his ass TO DEATH.

After watching Nate Diaz basically KO him, I think PBF could easily KO him..



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Conors stand up/striking is VERY basic compared to a world class boxer and all this bs hes spewing about hitting harder than anyone Floyds fought? Bahahaha. No. Im sure he thinks he hits hard af but what adarq said above is key...

Technique>*.

Conor won't go down easy but he's in for  a world of surprises the first time Floyd catches him with a clean counter. When youve thrown MILLIONS of punches with great technique... you hit hard. He doesnt hit hard as a BOXER but compared to an MMA fighter? Smh.

yup.

Again, World Class Boxing ability in Professional MMA might not even translate to mediocre in Professional Boxing. That's what most people are missing. You could be the slickest, more deadly boxer-striker in MMA, KO'n everyone with ease, and probably have no chance vs mediocre professional boxers. Anderson Silva is a great example... A magician in MMA with a professional boxing record of 1-1 with 1 KO Loss. Sure, maybe he improved and could have beaten some pro boxers when he was in his prime in MMA, but I seriously doubt it. He exploited MMA's weak boxing, and was able to defend himself on the ground with great BJJ.. So he was lethal in MMA because of sub-par boxing ability. At the elite level, you put him in there with any light heavyweight pro boxer and he'd get demolished. You put any light heavyweight pro boxer in there with him in MMA, and pro boxer gets demolished.



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Ive got some friends who are pretty decent MMA guys and they can hit but its NOTHING compared to a couple boxing buddies. I got stung clean AF from a right cross sparring a boxing friend in college and it slowed me way more than any shot ive taken messing around with my mma friends. And he was 146lbs vs my 170. Long, lanky and quick as shit lol!

Correction: my best friends dad is like a 30yr wing chun expert... I sparred him once. I laughed at my buddy when he said id never see it coming (Ive dabbled with some boxing and mma stuff, every guy should lol, self defense and a great ego check).... I saw the first one, parried, saw a glimpse of the left and never saw the 2nd right hand. At all. Just went down on 1 knee trying to decide what happened and if i should get up. :)

lmao nice!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 16, 2017, 09:44:34 am
lmfao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 17, 2017, 08:31:23 am
Me and some buddies used to have a fight club in basement and the rules were all fucked up...... we were allowed to hit someone on the ground......

and this one dude did a hook with all his might when i was trying to get up and shook my brain so bad.... probably knocked 3 iq points out of me in the long run..... i think that is the kind of hit mcgregor will face on floyds counter punch right to the temple

uh.. lmao. not smart. the irony of not doing something smart, then physiologically killing brain cells. :ninja:

Also .. your handle "fast don't lie" is appropriate here. Mayweather is fast, both offensively and defensively.. 100x faster than Conor on both fronts. Arguably faster than Pacquiao offensively, definitely defensively. Faster than Zab Judah defensively, but not offensively.

This McGregor hype is hilarious. Who knows though, 2016-2017 are the years of upsets, watch Conor will KO Floyd and become President of Ireland. :trollface:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 17, 2017, 07:06:10 pm
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 17, 2017, 07:06:20 pm
conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 17, 2017, 07:19:10 pm
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.

Maybe Nate Diaz would be a better choice, since he outboxed CM & basically KO'd him in their first fight ...  :trollface:

Honestly though, Nate & Nick Diaz would probably fare better against most boxers than CM even though they are way slower, IMHO.. Nick Diaz for example, is more of a pure boxer with superb condition & a granite chin, he actually has one pro boxing win also (1-0).

As slick as CM is in the Octagon, in boxing, if you can't get a guy out early with that slickness & you're known for fading, a good boxer will suck you into the middle/later rounds and when you're drowning, will try and destroy you. CM fits that mold IMHO.. Very impressive, fast, slick in the first few rounds - but when he faced Nate Diaz who is a slow, non stop, granite chin boxer, he got worn down in literally one round. By the second round he was getting caught easy, which resulted in him getting rocked & choked out.

I'd expect the Nate/Nick prototype to do better than most MMA fighters in pro boxing.. Not at all against elites, but against lesser opposition. Good technique (great jabs, throw punches while defending simultaneously, good movement), granite chins, superb conditioning, can withstand tons of punishment, and just keep coming.. They'd be the kind of guys you'd put up & comer boxers up against early on, to give the fans an exciting fight.

pC!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: ChrisM on June 17, 2017, 07:24:06 pm
conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.


Why? Because MOST MMA guys realize how LETHAL a boxer is comparatively. They know the best option is gnp or submission.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 17, 2017, 07:32:29 pm
Nate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruCNdNGIDWI

lmfao.. those Diaz bros are just so rugged. Disrespectful (not good) and rugged. They also seem partially brain dead.

Not nearly as impressive as CM offensively.. but just traditional boxing skills (jab-1, jab/straight-1/2, jab/straight/hook-1/2/3), being tough as nails, and never getting tired .. go a long way in a boxing match. He gets off balance a bit, he's goofy, but he has some serious length on those shots.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHhMhIEl3Io

Khan says Nate did great against Fonfara (pro boxer) in sparring. Would be interesting to see video of it.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 17, 2017, 07:33:42 pm
conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.


Why? Because MOST MMA guys realize how LETHAL a boxer is comparatively. They know the best option is gnp or submission.

yup

that's why it's funny even contemplating the idea of an elite MMA fighter trying to stand with an elite boxer.. they wouldn't even do it in the octagon if it was an MMA fight.. hah.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 17, 2017, 09:24:34 pm
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.

Maybe Nate Diaz would be a better choice, since he outboxed CM & basically KO'd him in their first fight ...  :trollface:

Honestly though, Nate & Nick Diaz would probably fare better against most boxers than CM even though they are way slower, IMHO.. Nick Diaz for example, is more of a pure boxer with superb condition & a granite chin, he actually has one pro boxing win also (1-0).

As slick as CM is in the Octagon, in boxing, if you can't get a guy out early with that slickness & you're known for fading, a good boxer will suck you into the middle/later rounds and when you're drowning, will try and destroy you. CM fits that mold IMHO.. Very impressive, fast, slick in the first few rounds - but when he faced Nate Diaz who is a slow, non stop, granite chin boxer, he got worn down in literally one round. By the second round he was getting caught easy, which resulted in him getting rocked & choked out.

I'd expect the Nate/Nick prototype to do better than most MMA fighters in pro boxing.. Not at all against elites, but against lesser opposition. Good technique (great jabs, throw punches while defending simultaneously, good movement), granite chins, superb conditioning, can withstand tons of punishment, and just keep coming.. They'd be the kind of guys you'd put up & comer boxers up against early on, to give the fans an exciting fight.

pC!

Don't forget the weight difference. CM goes up two weight classes and probably gets in the cage 15 pounds lighter than Diaz who has superb conditioning, great boxing and even better jiu-jitsu.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 18, 2017, 06:04:32 pm
what in the world? the public is betting more and more on mcgregor? do they know something we don't?

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19664207/sportsbooks-sees-flurry-square-bets-conor-mcgregor-fight-floyd-mayweather

but the big bettors are still on mayweather, but in total more $ is going for mcgregor

could this be a david vs goliath situation or bunny vs the tortoise?

Don't know the boxing v mma scene in the US but mma is definitely more popular here so there's probably a whole generation who aren't familiar with Floyd or are just that enamoured with Conor that they think he will win.

Then again, maybe he will win... :trollface:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: ChrisM on June 18, 2017, 07:46:46 pm
I dont bet on anything im not involved in lol BUT IF I DID, I'd throw a little money on Conor. NOT because I think he'll win but on the off chance Floyd slips on the camvas and Conor rocks him perfectly... itd pay off lol
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 18, 2017, 09:07:57 pm
Maybe Floyd will bet his entire net worth against himself, right before the fight.. then take a dive, and become a trillionaire.  :trollface:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on June 18, 2017, 11:39:26 pm
Maybe Floyd will bet his entire net worth against himself, right before the fight.. then take a dive, and become a trillionaire.  :trollface:

Genius!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on June 19, 2017, 11:47:07 am
I'm thinking about putting down like $30 that the Brooklyn Nets will be NBA champs, getting like 8000 - 1 odds......

hah
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:00:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xUoBLf8wDQ
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:01:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv76Lr4_BkI
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:23:00 am
just throwing some old footage in here.. in case people haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-BbjrVjSw

reflex/rhythm drills ^^ 17 straight minutes.. pretty ridiculous



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wbrHnsJq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3asM_R_knk

apparently that double end bag video is new? dno.



imho, conor shouldn't be playing around with anything that doesn't involve punching/defending/boxing.. catching tennis balls & anything that doesn't involve punching, is mostly a waste of time.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:30:17 am
some new floyd footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWxMrqx6PQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWS21GkYtY
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:32:15 am
Van Heerden on Conor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4z-OJdOCY

:/ lmao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:36:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVMMrplyiM

Woodley.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:37:53 am
berto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UviabCxAk4
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 01, 2017, 02:44:11 am
old clip. look at these nutbags. the end of the vid is a match that lasts 31 minutes straight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vIKupqLPtQ

that's some crazy shit. can't be healthy.



floyd is known for sparring non-stop like that.. and having fresh sparring partners thrown in.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 03, 2017, 06:36:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMUyssTbnY
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 12, 2017, 11:55:48 pm
trash trash trash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdwLOFm0D8k
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 12:08:07 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 13, 2017, 02:30:44 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.

The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 05:26:52 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.


The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.

noOOOOOoOoOOOooOoooOOooOOooooOOOoo. :f

https://twitter.com/adarqui/status/837205158438240256

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"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."

-- Keith "One Time" Thurman



Thing is.. no matter how witty Conor is, or how good his talk game is, Floyd will always think he's winning that battle as well. Floyd is in his own world where he's the king, in his mind. There's literally nothing Conor can say, that'll get under his skin, even if he attacks his middle school reading level, Floyd responds back with: "read this, 76,000,000". Maybe attacking him on his domestic violence charges and what that says about him as a father, could get under Floyd's skin. I'll give him that angle.. But I doubt he'd use it. Other than that, Floyd deep down thinks he's winning everything - talk, money, records, prestige, numbers, women, the life, everything.

Conor got under Aldo's skin & caused Aldo to rush in and trade.. but Aldo isn't anywhere near Floyd's level when it comes to being able to play that game. Conor tried to get under Nate's skin.. How'd that work out? lmao.

Anyway, just remembering how much shit Conor talked to Nate Diaz, both fights.




was searching for Nate Diaz talking shit to Conor in the ring.. found this:

LMFAO AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO.. Conor dominates the whole video, until that clip at the end.. absolutely destroyed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE

oh man.. i died. "playing touch butt with that dork in the park. the guy with the pony tail. My team will beat your whole teams ass. My JV team will beat your whole team's ass."

conor = wrecked.

He knows that shit is true as fuck.. Nate's camp is full of soldiers. Absolute psychos who live this shit.


earlier in the vid: Conor: the only difference I made was I dug the grave a little wider and longer for Nate's skinny fat body.

brutal.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 13, 2017, 08:41:18 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.


The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.

noOOOOOoOoOOOooOoooOOooOOooooOOOoo. :f

https://twitter.com/adarqui/status/837205158438240256

Quote
"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."

-- Keith "One Time" Thurman



Thing is.. no matter how witty Conor is, or how good his talk game is, Floyd will always think he's winning that battle as well. Floyd is in his own world where he's the king, in his mind. There's literally nothing Conor can say, that'll get under his skin, even if he attacks his middle school reading level, Floyd responds back with: "read this, 76,000,000". Maybe attacking him on his domestic violence charges and what that says about him as a father, could get under Floyd's skin. I'll give him that angle.. But I doubt he'd use it. Other than that, Floyd deep down thinks he's winning everything - talk, money, records, prestige, numbers, women, the life, everything.

Conor got under Aldo's skin & caused Aldo to rush in and trade.. but Aldo isn't anywhere near Floyd's level when it comes to being able to play that game. Conor tried to get under Nate's skin.. How'd that work out? lmao.

Anyway, just remembering how much shit Conor talked to Nate Diaz, both fights.




was searching for Nate Diaz talking shit to Conor in the ring.. found this:

LMFAO AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO.. Conor dominates the whole video, until that clip at the end.. absolutely destroyed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE

oh man.. i died. "playing touch butt with that dork in the park. the guy with the pony tail. My team will beat your whole teams ass. My JV team will beat your whole team's ass."

conor = wrecked.

He knows that shit is true as fuck.. Nate's camp is full of soldiers. Absolute psychos who live this shit.


earlier in the vid: Conor: the only difference I made was I dug the grave a little wider and longer for Nate's skinny fat body.

brutal.

"He makes good times with the right hand and animal balloons with the left hand"  :P :P :P Pure gold!

Man but Nate's not normal. He just wants enough money to smoke weed and do his triathlons in peace. And you're right. His camp are straight up savages. 

CM has the game to back up his mouth though. He loses at 170, comes back and wins at 170 even though 155 was on offer with Nate. I still see it being more even than people thing. It's hilarious to listed to the "boxing" crowd say "oh when he puts on these gloves he won't have any power" or "boxers know how to take punishment". They're getting a little precious with it IMO.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 05:27:57 pm
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.


The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.

noOOOOOoOoOOOooOoooOOooOOooooOOOoo. :f

https://twitter.com/adarqui/status/837205158438240256

Quote
"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."

-- Keith "One Time" Thurman



Thing is.. no matter how witty Conor is, or how good his talk game is, Floyd will always think he's winning that battle as well. Floyd is in his own world where he's the king, in his mind. There's literally nothing Conor can say, that'll get under his skin, even if he attacks his middle school reading level, Floyd responds back with: "read this, 76,000,000". Maybe attacking him on his domestic violence charges and what that says about him as a father, could get under Floyd's skin. I'll give him that angle.. But I doubt he'd use it. Other than that, Floyd deep down thinks he's winning everything - talk, money, records, prestige, numbers, women, the life, everything.

Conor got under Aldo's skin & caused Aldo to rush in and trade.. but Aldo isn't anywhere near Floyd's level when it comes to being able to play that game. Conor tried to get under Nate's skin.. How'd that work out? lmao.

Anyway, just remembering how much shit Conor talked to Nate Diaz, both fights.




was searching for Nate Diaz talking shit to Conor in the ring.. found this:

LMFAO AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO.. Conor dominates the whole video, until that clip at the end.. absolutely destroyed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE

oh man.. i died. "playing touch butt with that dork in the park. the guy with the pony tail. My team will beat your whole teams ass. My JV team will beat your whole team's ass."

conor = wrecked.

He knows that shit is true as fuck.. Nate's camp is full of soldiers. Absolute psychos who live this shit.


earlier in the vid: Conor: the only difference I made was I dug the grave a little wider and longer for Nate's skinny fat body.

brutal.

"He makes good times with the right hand and animal balloons with the left hand"  :P :P :P Pure gold!

Man but Nate's not normal. He just wants enough money to smoke weed and do his triathlons in peace. And you're right. His camp are straight up savages. 

CM has the game to back up his mouth though. He loses at 170, comes back and wins at 170 even though 155 was on offer with Nate. I still see it being more even than people thing.



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It's hilarious to listed to the "boxing" crowd say "oh when he puts on these gloves he won't have any power" or "boxers know how to take punishment". They're getting a little precious with it IMO.

I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 13, 2017, 07:24:38 pm
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!

But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.

On a  side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 09:47:09 pm
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!

But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.

Right but they are training all kinds of skills: grappling, wrestling, kicks, muay thai, and boxing = alot less punches & alot less work with boxing gloves.

MMA dudes do lots of light contact sparring with MMA gloves, because they also have to work takedowns/grappling/wrestling, so you don't see them putting in the kind of work boxers do with heavier gloves, not even close to the same amount of total work from what i've seen in person (at ATT).

ie, every time a boxer goes into a session, they are pretty much lacing them up for the hour.

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On a  side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA

dno. from a repetitive brain trauma/grappling/submission/purity perspective, it makes sense. From a face bone structure & hand injury perspective, it doesn't. Longevity of fighters in the sport would go way down if you allowed bare fisted punches, that's why it seems like they'd have to go back to open palm. The knuckles are just way too delicate. With bare knuckle punches, fractures to the face & knuckles would go way up.. Broken orbitals on jabs, lmao. Elbows/shins are lethal, but the volume of punches you can get in, in such a short time frame, is a big problem: imagine bare fisted GNP finishes.. sounds risky.

I remember head stomps in Pride.. glad that's not allowed in the US.

also the shit he said at 2:08 is what wrecked my right hand (index knuckle) permanently. learned that the hard way.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 13, 2017, 10:24:43 pm
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!

But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.

Right but they are training all kinds of skills: grappling, wrestling, kicks, muay thai, and boxing = alot less punches & alot less work with boxing gloves.

MMA dudes do lots of light contact sparring with MMA gloves, because they also have to work takedowns/grappling/wrestling, so you don't see them putting in the kind of work boxers do with heavier gloves, not even close to the same amount of total work from what i've seen in person (at ATT).

ie, every time a boxer goes into a session, they are pretty much lacing them up for the hour.

Understand your point there. It's just frustrating that every time I read/hear something on this fight it's as if Conor has never put on a boxing glove before. Almost like he's a rugby player turned boxer or something.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 13, 2017, 10:30:22 pm
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On a  side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA

dno. from a repetitive brain trauma/grappling/submission/purity perspective, it makes sense. From a face bone structure & hand injury perspective, it doesn't. Longevity of fighters in the sport would go way down if you allowed bare fisted punches, that's why it seems like they'd have to go back to open palm. The knuckles are just way too delicate. With bare knuckle punches, fractures to the face & knuckles would go way up.. Broken orbitals on jabs, lmao. Elbows/shins are lethal, but the volume of punches you can get in, in such a short time frame, is a big problem: imagine bare fisted GNP finishes.. sounds risky.

I remember head stomps in Pride.. glad that's not allowed in the US.

also the shit he said at 2:08 is what wrecked my right hand (index knuckle) permanently. learned that the hard way.

Bas Rutten also explains it really well and he used to fight vale tudo bare hand no wraps. I don't recall too many facial fractures from those days. There was nowhere near the level of gnp or stand and trade though. Probably a moot point anyway as it'll never happen.

Damn. Punching dudes in the forehead. Not ideal. I've had that on the shins plenty of times with peoples elbows. Super painful.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 11:28:14 pm
straight up WWE x 100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ew1tBuMB28&feature=youtu.be&t=6404

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ew1tBuMB28

he hit em` with the "you can't even read line".

floyd says I read numbers

floyd says "bet your whole check"

conor says "no fucking problem, send me the contract"

now see.. if someone could make that happen.. either of them betting their entire check, that would take this to another level. Then, I would order the PPV.

:D
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Mikey on July 14, 2017, 10:15:54 am
Brilliant explanation adarqui about the boxing gloves with the 4 oz. v 10 oz. scenario. This is the reason why I love this forum so much! The UFC is a marketing machine and they do an excellent job at hyping their fighters. Remember a couple of years ago when they were talking up Ronda Rousey and saying she'd beat up male fighters and kick Mayweather's ass haha. I've said this on facebook when people have been saying Conor has a chance but in reality it'll be 12 rounds of Mayweather running circles around Conor and making him look stupid. I'd even go as far as to say that there's more chance Conor will get DQ'd than actually winning this fight or knocking  out Mayweather.

49-0 against boxers who have spent decades training and perfecting their art and being the best of the best. This is just his swan song for going to 50-0 and having a final payout. Understandably in the boxing fraternity people are understandably angry that Conor has even been given this opportunity as everyone else has had to earn their way to the top and earn their way to fight Mayweather. Conor has just come in and it's a circus. Talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 14, 2017, 04:13:35 pm
Brilliant explanation adarqui about the boxing gloves with the 4 oz. v 10 oz. scenario.

hah thanks! the analogy felt good at the time & still does.

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This is the reason why I love this forum so much!

haha awesome. <3

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The UFC is a marketing machine and they do an excellent job at hyping their fighters. Remember a couple of years ago when they were talking up Ronda Rousey and saying she'd beat up male fighters and kick Mayweather's ass haha. I've said this on facebook when people have been saying Conor has a chance but in reality it'll be 12 rounds of Mayweather running circles around Conor and making him look stupid. I'd even go as far as to say that there's more chance Conor will get DQ'd than actually winning this fight or knocking  out Mayweather.

yea I remember the Rousey talk.. I guess we are fortunate that we have Conor vs Floyd rather than Rousey vs Floyd  :ninja:

They are using straight up Wrestlemania tactics to promote this fight & get people to buy into the idea that Floyd is in for the fight of his life.

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49-0 against boxers who have spent decades training and perfecting their art and being the best of the best. This is just his swan song for going to 50-0 and having a final payout. Understandably in the boxing fraternity people are understandably angry that Conor has even been given this opportunity as everyone else has had to earn their way to the top and earn their way to fight Mayweather. Conor has just come in and it's a circus. Talk is cheap.

yup. and on the topic of talk:

It's very hard for anyone to try and stay atop the world while talking massive amounts of shit. Everyone who tries to mimic Floyd for example, eventually gets wrecked. He's basically created the blueprint on how to make more $$ by playing the villain. It seems easy to talk yourself up so much that now you are feeling more pressure than you normally would have. When talkers lose, they are never the same. Rousey is probably the best recent example - she talked herself into a grave. Conor when he took on Nate, Sonnen when he had Silva beat but then gave it away & was never the same, Aldo when he tried to match Conor's trash & stepped out of his game rushing in like Pacquiao vs Marquez and getting KO'd in 5 seconds, Broner when he was dominating lesser fighters and then gets humped by Maidana & completely embarrassed, Roy Jones Jr when Tarver KO'd him, James Toney getting dropped by Roy.

IMHO, it seems tough to be a talker.. It's extra added pressure, and when you lose, everyone is laughing.

Floyd is unique in that respect.. Talks bigger & more shit than most anyone (except maybe Conor), and doesn't have a 0 in his L column.. He knows people are just fiending for him to catch an L, every fight he's in. With him though, he always seems to stay within his true limits.. He doesn't talk "extra shit" and step out of his game plan. I think that's where everyone else I listed, fails. As Coges said, "get under the skin". With Floyd, it seems that when it comes time for the fight, he knows how to separate "what he wants" from "what he needs to do". He doesn't let his emotions get the best of him, practically never.

Again a great example is Rousey & her camp/coach talking so much shit, talking herself up to be a striker, when she isn't. She should have just been diving for legs trying to get people down and armbar them. Instead, she talked herself into game plans that she could never win. If talking shit makes you delusional, then it becomes a weapon against you.

Notice how Floyd said, "first round will be a chess match probably", "but if Conor wants to go to war, we can do that" ... sure... :D When it's time for business, Floyd will go back to being surgical.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 14, 2017, 04:41:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuYRHK1WDU

i skip through these things.. but one thing i notice in every video from the press tour, is Floyd's manager, Ellerbe is having the time of his life.. right? I mean this dude is non-stop laughing, smiling, even when Conor insults Floyd's reading comprehension.. I've never seen anything like it. I think it says it all.. Every insult, bit of drama, etc, and Ellerbe is just seeing $$ signs. LMAO.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuYRHK1WDU

i skip through these things.. but one thing i notice in every video from the press tour, is Floyd's manager, Ellerbe is having the time of his life.. right? I mean this dude is non-stop laughing, smiling, even when Conor insults Floyd's reading comprehension.. I've never seen anything like it. I think it says it all.. Every insult, bit of drama, etc, and Ellerbe is just seeing $$ signs. LMAO.

True lol, especially when conor made a fat joke.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 15, 2017, 01:08:23 am
McGregor: If Mayweather’s Handbags Voltron me again, they get slapped


that Voltron shit was lame af.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 15, 2017, 04:33:32 pm
It's funny how all this world tour is pure entertainment just to lure more viewers to buy the fight even though the chance's remain the same for connor to win at 1%, which is the punchers chance.

I enjoyed watching it but my opinion is the same that mcgregor has no chance. he has 0 boxing iq and mma movement and boxing movement is different, he will find it hard to get around the ring that floyd will be the one chasing while mcgregor on the backfoot but will fail and get beat up badly.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 15, 2017, 05:08:48 pm
It's funny how all this world tour is pure entertainment just to lure more viewers to buy the fight even though the chance's remain the same for connor to win at 1%, which is the punchers chance.

I enjoyed watching it but my opinion is the same that mcgregor has no chance. he has 0 boxing iq and mma movement and boxing movement is different, he will find it hard to get around the ring that floyd will be the one chasing while mcgregor on the backfoot but will fail and get beat up badly.

yup.

we'll find out aug 26 tho. can't wait to not order it but find out the result! LMAO!

In the astronomically unlikely chance that Floyd loses or gets KO'd, i'll GLADLY rejoice with all of the people who want/think Conor to win.. In the likely chance that Conor gets TKO'd or the towel is thrown in late in the fight, i'll just laugh.

If Conor truly brings it, i'll get back to being a fan of his. His luster faded, for me, when he got owned by Nate in the first fight. Floyd keeps talking about Conor quitting with the tap, but he started quitting on himself before that, when he got caught with some good shots by Nate. So took him from "next level" to "above ordinary who is a master weight cutter" for me.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 15, 2017, 05:11:58 pm
Mcgregor needs to talk about the beat woman failed relationships bad father thing lolol

ya i said that earlier. I don't want to see Conor do that, that's some horrible shit.. but, if he did, the woman-beating angle could end up getting under Floyd's skin. Don't think there's anything Conor could say, other than that, to get Mayweather to lose his composure out of the ring. Don't think there's anything he could say to get Floyd to lose his composure inside the ring.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 15, 2017, 07:50:54 pm
It's funny how all this world tour is pure entertainment just to lure more viewers to buy the fight even though the chance's remain the same for connor to win at 1%, which is the punchers chance.

I enjoyed watching it but my opinion is the same that mcgregor has no chance. he has 0 boxing iq and mma movement and boxing movement is different, he will find it hard to get around the ring that floyd will be the one chasing while mcgregor on the backfoot but will fail and get beat up badly.

yup.

we'll find out aug 26 tho. can't wait to not order it but find out the result! LMAO!

In the astronomically unlikely chance that Floyd loses or gets KO'd, i'll GLADLY rejoice with all of the people who want/think Conor to win.. In the likely chance that Conor gets TKO'd or the towel is thrown in late in the fight, i'll just laugh.

If Conor truly brings it, i'll get back to being a fan of his. His luster faded, for me, when he got owned by Nate in the first fight. Floyd keeps talking about Conor quitting with the tap, but he started quitting on himself before that, when he got caught with some good shots by Nate. So took him from "next level" to "above ordinary who is a master weight cutter" for me.

I did the same thing when Rousey got beat. Figured her for a one trick pony which obviously isn't true but she's got massive holes, mostly mental, and refused to acknowledge and fix them. Not sure Conor is made from the same cloth. Seems to be constantly seeking improvement and making his game better. I want him to win so badly but don't quite believe he will (or do I  :D). 
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 15, 2017, 07:53:31 pm
Mcgregor needs to talk about the beat woman failed relationships bad father thing lolol

ya i said that earlier. I don't want to see Conor do that, that's some horrible shit.. but, if he did, the woman-beating angle could end up getting under Floyd's skin. Don't think there's anything Conor could say, other than that, to get Mayweather to lose his composure out of the ring. Don't think there's anything he could say to get Floyd to lose his composure inside the ring.

Yeah I hope he doesn't go that route either. I don't see him doing it though. He has the crowd right now and they'd turn on him.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 15, 2017, 11:02:18 pm
Mcgregor needs to talk about the beat woman failed relationships bad father thing lolol

ya i said that earlier. I don't want to see Conor do that, that's some horrible shit.. but, if he did, the woman-beating angle could end up getting under Floyd's skin. Don't think there's anything Conor could say, other than that, to get Mayweather to lose his composure out of the ring. Don't think there's anything he could say to get Floyd to lose his composure inside the ring.

Yeah I hope he doesn't go that route either. I don't see him doing it though. He has the crowd right now and they'd turn on him.

I don't think he'll do it either.. he knows that's just going too low.

But......... the crowd wouldn't turn on him :/ IMHO there's some Trump effect going on here.. Some of the very same reasons people hate Mayweather Jr, they love about Conor :/

Conor is a disrespectful punk most of the time. He's said some really foul shit to most of his opponents. People who hate those qualities in other fighters, love that with him.

I mean, dude, he knocked Floyd's ability to read.. and everyone loved it. That's disgusting... I understand it's for show, but how do you cheer that, as a fan? I mean when you really think about it, that's so disgusting. He clearly had a wrecked upbringing and dedicated his life to boxing. I mean his mom was a crack addict and his dad was a pro boxer, drug dealer, violence, beat Floyd Jr, everything. He didn't grow up "easy".

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1627330-floyd-mayweather-how-his-familys-history-of-violence-has-shaped-money-may

good read.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 16, 2017, 12:06:03 am
uhh

I'm dying.. This is so good. And they took it to another level with that "Watch out Rinaldo" song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o7KPoS0HGs

LMFAO.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 16, 2017, 11:47:03 pm
Mcgregor needs to talk about the beat woman failed relationships bad father thing lolol

ya i said that earlier. I don't want to see Conor do that, that's some horrible shit.. but, if he did, the woman-beating angle could end up getting under Floyd's skin. Don't think there's anything Conor could say, other than that, to get Mayweather to lose his composure out of the ring. Don't think there's anything he could say to get Floyd to lose his composure inside the ring.

Yeah I hope he doesn't go that route either. I don't see him doing it though. He has the crowd right now and they'd turn on him.

I don't think he'll do it either.. he knows that's just going too low.

But......... the crowd wouldn't turn on him :/ IMHO there's some Trump effect going on here.. Some of the very same reasons people hate Mayweather Jr, they love about Conor :/

Conor is a disrespectful punk most of the time. He's said some really foul shit to most of his opponents. People who hate those qualities in other fighters, love that with him.

I mean, dude, he knocked Floyd's ability to read.. and everyone loved it. That's disgusting... I understand it's for show, but how do you cheer that, as a fan? I mean when you really think about it, that's so disgusting. He clearly had a wrecked upbringing and dedicated his life to boxing. I mean his mom was a crack addict and his dad was a pro boxer, drug dealer, violence, beat Floyd Jr, everything. He didn't grow up "easy".

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1627330-floyd-mayweather-how-his-familys-history-of-violence-has-shaped-money-may

good read.

I think you just predicted something here. Remember that? Trump can't win. Trump's a joke. He's not a politician. No one really thinks he's serious. He's just here for the attention. BOOM! Trump wins. McGregor inside 4 haha

Nice article.  There's a lot to be said for a fucked up childhood. It often makes the most interesting characters in life.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 16, 2017, 11:58:14 pm
Mcgregor needs to talk about the beat woman failed relationships bad father thing lolol

ya i said that earlier. I don't want to see Conor do that, that's some horrible shit.. but, if he did, the woman-beating angle could end up getting under Floyd's skin. Don't think there's anything Conor could say, other than that, to get Mayweather to lose his composure out of the ring. Don't think there's anything he could say to get Floyd to lose his composure inside the ring.

Yeah I hope he doesn't go that route either. I don't see him doing it though. He has the crowd right now and they'd turn on him.

I don't think he'll do it either.. he knows that's just going too low.

But......... the crowd wouldn't turn on him :/ IMHO there's some Trump effect going on here.. Some of the very same reasons people hate Mayweather Jr, they love about Conor :/

Conor is a disrespectful punk most of the time. He's said some really foul shit to most of his opponents. People who hate those qualities in other fighters, love that with him.

I mean, dude, he knocked Floyd's ability to read.. and everyone loved it. That's disgusting... I understand it's for show, but how do you cheer that, as a fan? I mean when you really think about it, that's so disgusting. He clearly had a wrecked upbringing and dedicated his life to boxing. I mean his mom was a crack addict and his dad was a pro boxer, drug dealer, violence, beat Floyd Jr, everything. He didn't grow up "easy".

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1627330-floyd-mayweather-how-his-familys-history-of-violence-has-shaped-money-may

good read.

I think you just predicted something here. Remember that? Trump can't win. Trump's a joke. He's not a politician. No one really thinks he's serious. He's just here for the attention. BOOM! Trump wins. McGregor inside 4 haha

ya but this is different.. unless Conor puts acid on his gloves or uses plaster of paris ;f

Dana White (nor UFC) isn't going to be able to help him inside the ring.. :D

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Nice article.  There's a lot to be said for a fucked up childhood. It often makes the most interesting characters in life.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 16, 2017, 11:58:59 pm
23:54 <@expat> boxing fans seeing Floyd lose, & seeing MMA fans rejoice & laugh at boxing.. would be like anti-Trumpers living through Trump winning

I said that to a pro-Trump guy who always rubs it in that Trump won etc.. who is saying he'll quit boxing forever if Floyd loses.. irony.

lmao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 17, 2017, 12:07:48 am
i'm lol'n at people thinking it'll go 12.. "a typical Floyd fight". Conor is going to be near lifeless if he lasts 8 rounds. Floyd won't be able to hold him up to make it go 12.

:ninja:

Floyd will dance & out class him for the first 6 rounds, then Conor will be so wrecked from fatigue, unable to defend properly & unable to throw anything sharp, that Floyd will have to finish him off.

So i'm thinking it'll go 6-8: TKO or someone throwing in the towel for Conor to save him.

If you've ever seen a cat toying with it's prey before it gets bored and just kills it, that's how this plays out.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on July 17, 2017, 01:53:00 am
i'm lol'n at people thinking it'll go 12.. "a typical Floyd fight". Conor is going to be near lifeless if he lasts 8 rounds. Floyd won't be able to hold him up to make it go 12.

:ninja:

Floyd will dance & out class him for the first 6 rounds, then Conor will be so wrecked from fatigue, unable to defend properly & unable to throw anything sharp, that Floyd will have to finish him off.

So i'm thinking it'll go 6-8: TKO or someone throwing in the towel for Conor to save him.

If you've ever seen a cat toying with it's prey before it gets bored and just kills it, that's how this plays out.

Yeah I think sub 6. The first 2 rounds will be the most interesting.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 17, 2017, 03:08:09 am
Bad news for Conor if true. Jessie Vargas claims Conor got KO'd in sparring recently..

http://www.boxingscene.com/jessie-vargas-says-conor-mcgregor-knocked-out-sparring--118591

just a rumor at this point.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 17, 2017, 07:17:31 am
Bad news for Conor if true. Jessie Vargas claims Conor got KO'd in sparring recently..

http://www.boxingscene.com/jessie-vargas-says-conor-mcgregor-knocked-out-sparring--118591

just a rumor at this point.

It was prob paulie who connor said he brought in for sparring not to train just to get answers for his remarks about him.  :P
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 17, 2017, 12:48:53 pm
Bad news for Conor if true. Jessie Vargas claims Conor got KO'd in sparring recently..

http://www.boxingscene.com/jessie-vargas-says-conor-mcgregor-knocked-out-sparring--118591

just a rumor at this point.

It was prob paulie who connor said he brought in for sparring not to train just to get answers for his remarks about him.  :P

LMFAO.

Didn't even think about that.. I don't think Paulie would fuck around in sparring, so it's possible. He's known as someone with no power but I could see him lighting up Conor, especially after his comments.

If you get KO'd by Paulie, especially at this point in his retired-career, there's no hope for you in boxing. Paulie has pillow fists.

That'd be absolutely hilarious.. I hope it's true.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 22, 2017, 05:57:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cr5FQRKL6I
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 22, 2017, 05:20:17 pm
Gumble with some solid final words to close out an HBO Real Sports episode:

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“The two combatants have for the past month lowered the bar for civility and eagerly swapped racist, misogynistic and gay slurs in desperate hopes of marketing their pay-per-view event. That they've leaned on hate and ignorance to sell their fight says a lot about them and none of it is good. What's it going to say about those who buy it?”

I could only find one site which took note of it.. really thought i'd find more:

https://www.outsports.com/2017/7/19/16000868/bryant-gumbel-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 23, 2017, 07:01:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8GybKGh1yk
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 23, 2017, 07:40:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8GybKGh1yk

Great interview. Hopkins is always on point. Thurman reminds me of BHOP. I can listen to both of those dudes all day.

ya man i'm amp'd for Canelo / GGG .. i'm def paying for that fight. That fight deserves way more attention. Too bad Floyd/Conor is sucking up that oxygen. I love both fighters but i'm hoping Canelo gets the W - I really respect Canelo, he's fought everybody. He has the biggest balls in boxing, and maybe all of fight sports right now. He doesn't have the size that GGG does, which is really going to be a problem, but he definitely has the skills (more than GGG imho), power, and heart.

It's a good thing in fight sports that it's pretty much unacceptable to be a 2nd-tier fighter or someone who has some L's, to talk shit like Floyd/Conor. I can personally give it a pass when they are arguably the best in their respective sports. But if everyone acted like this, ie, everyone acting like a Broner to get more $$ and turn every pre-fight promotion into a circus, i'd probably stop watching fight sports. I prefer the GGG/Canelo approach for example.

Dana White, Don King, and Danny Garcia's dad love when shit goes into the gutter.

If all of politics becomes Trumpian, and all of Fight Sports becomes Floyd/McGregorian, i'll give up. :ninja:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 24, 2017, 03:37:27 pm
I would like ggg to win, but canelo is an all rounder. He can go to the body well, head hunting, power, smart brawling and is a power puncher and can defeat golovkin.
But I don't like how dela hoya has been handling this fight, delaying it and doing all the talking. But I feel canelo would win but would like to see golovkin win. Canelo is very slick too, he can combo and counter.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 26, 2017, 06:11:36 pm
ahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-srTvXH5bo
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 26, 2017, 08:57:20 pm
I'm hoping that the people enjoyed the free entertainment but when it comes to purchasing the ppv, it flops in gate revenue, ppv buys and flops in every imaginable. That people just were tuning into watch the highlights or just check out the results in the news lol.
That will put mayweather in a tricky spot. Only the rich and famous attend and the fans just watch it free as highlights.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 29, 2017, 06:50:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcf8E4Cokb8
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on July 30, 2017, 02:43:52 pm
top notch GARBAGE photo



lmfao @ the professional ref though..
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 02, 2017, 11:28:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS30vK8F_JI

can't believe anyone would bet that Conor WON'T get at least one round.. I mean the probability that Floyd toys around with Conor and loses a few rounds because of it, is very high. I can definitely see Conor winning 1-2 rounds early on: Conor will be unleashing everything he has early on, Floyd will be trying to laugh it off, make him miss, matador him etc. Horrible bet if Max Kellerman took that.. noob.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 02, 2017, 11:32:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8SFKEyGhM
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 03, 2017, 11:17:21 am
Cortez having to break up sparring getting heated between paulie and mcgregor.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/1/16074898/ref-joe-cortez-says-mcgregor-and-malignaggis-sparring-got-a-little-rough-and-out-of-control-mma-ufc
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 03, 2017, 11:29:29 am
Cortez having to break up sparring getting heated between paulie and mcgregor.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/1/16074898/ref-joe-cortez-says-mcgregor-and-malignaggis-sparring-got-a-little-rough-and-out-of-control-mma-ufc

this series of statements made me lol:

"they were trying to punch each other. I mean, it got a little bit out of control"

:trollface:

nice.. sounds like Conor is really taking this shit serious.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 12:27:54 pm
Conor is basically pulling some pages out of Zelenoff's book .. :/

(https://i.imgur.com/p61aRBm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SsJ7Ddd.jpg)

it's a shame Paulie was too stupid to realize he would get used. The fact that no photos came out from Paulie's camp, means he probably signed some kind of NDA etc ... so all he can do is suck it up and get made a fool of.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 12, 2017, 10:51:39 am
Conor needs to chill with all of that extra fancy movement he's doing, it really looks ridiculous. Floyd will catch him all day if he does that. :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 12, 2017, 12:37:37 pm
I'm not surpised at that, cos he's mma style is always interfering and he has never boxed professionally and he don't know the proper movement patterns.

They released sparring footage too between mcgregor and paulie well not all of it obviously lol. Not really a stunning shot from mcgregor which supposedly dropped malignaggi.

http://www.boxingscene.com/video-mcgregor-drops-malignaggi-sparring-works-him-over--119413
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 12, 2017, 02:03:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC03F5OYq_Q

malignaggi got caught with a decent left. malignaggi looks out of shape in these clips. conor definitely landed some good shit on him.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 12, 2017, 08:16:41 pm
lol. good job :(

Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 13, 2017, 08:05:42 am
lol. good job :(



OML that is soo funny. Demonstrates the circuit the fight is especially the way conor is moving lol he can only fight mma style just minus the the other strikes, that's how he will fight too, like he does in mma but without the other strikes.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 15, 2017, 02:20:38 pm
at the end of all this, the real story will be how bad Paulie Malignaggi ruined himself.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/dana-white-felt-sorry-for-paulie-malignaggi-after-12-rounds-with-conor-mcgregor

he acts like he punked Dana, then Dana actually punks him.

Paulie, if you're reading this thread, please stfu and disengage from Conor vs Floyd.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 15, 2017, 02:22:15 pm
i lol'd hard.

https://sports.yahoo.com/fighters-mock-conor-mcgregor-workout-mcgregor-challenge-224418191.html

The McGregor Challenge.. poor Conor.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 15, 2017, 10:58:18 pm
HAHAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m32Mp8TGTgw
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 15, 2017, 11:08:41 pm
conor's wormy arms reminds me of the "movin like bernie" dance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFruIAYCd6c
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 16, 2017, 08:51:34 am
OMG WOW that is soo funny, #mcgregor challenge lol. it does look like the move like bernie dance lol.

Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 16, 2017, 03:23:46 pm
8 oz gloves.. nice.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-mcgregor-8-ounce-gloves--119535
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 16, 2017, 03:24:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJEMwBhNR8
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 16, 2017, 03:30:32 pm
8 oz gloves.. nice.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-mcgregor-8-ounce-gloves--119535

Oh wow, they accepted their request to 8 oz gloves. Well more easier for Floyd to knock connor out.

Nice vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-SrUAu9SFQ
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 16, 2017, 03:44:36 pm
8 oz gloves.. nice.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-mcgregor-8-ounce-gloves--119535

Oh wow, they accepted their request to 8 oz gloves. Well more easier for Floyd to knock connor out.

Nice vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-SrUAu9SFQ

ya people keep saying this helps conor, but honestly, it'll make Floyd more cautious which means he'll care more about being hit - which means he won't get hit .. and it'll mean that Floyd's potshots/quick shots will cause more damage.

i'd say that's actually worse for Conor .. Conor's advantage would be 4 oz to bare fist I imagine.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 18, 2017, 05:39:00 pm
Some good questions by stephen smith, but mayweather fails to satisfy in answering them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_9Fnrgx_w
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 19, 2017, 12:56:07 am
Some good questions by stephen smith, but mayweather fails to satisfy in answering them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_9Fnrgx_w

nice thanks!

dno man I thought he mostly gave some great answers.. when he did skate around some questions it was obvious & I actually cracked up a bit, like when he was acting like he lost a step & who knows how this fight will turn out.. that was funny & you could see him trying not to crack up.

his answer about Floyd vs Berto compared to Pac vs Horn was great. His rant about Conor using the Floyd blueprint yet people love Conor & hate him was great. Him talking about being an American, loving this country, rising out of the hood - American dream was good. Talking about health #1, family #1. Calling out DLH was expected & solid. When he reminded Smith that his last KO was Ortiz, that was funny.

lots of other things to mention but that's what I remember. good interview, I liked it.

pc!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 19, 2017, 01:23:26 am
he looked good then, probably looks so much better now.. HEH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0ZmW3sagT0
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 19, 2017, 10:20:28 am
Some good questions by stephen smith, but mayweather fails to satisfy in answering them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_9Fnrgx_w

nice thanks!

dno man I thought he mostly gave some great answers.. when he did skate around some questions it was obvious & I actually cracked up a bit, like when he was acting like he lost a step & who knows how this fight will turn out.. that was funny & you could see him trying not to crack up.

his answer about Floyd vs Berto compared to Pac vs Horn was great. His rant about Conor using the Floyd blueprint yet people love Conor & hate him was great. Him talking about being an American, loving this country, rising out of the hood - American dream was good. Talking about health #1, family #1. Calling out DLH was expected & solid. When he reminded Smith that his last KO was Ortiz, that was funny.

lots of other things to mention but that's what I remember. good interview, I liked it.

pc!

I meant his attempt at answering questions as to why he is fighting connor mcgregor who has never fought professionally and he is fighting floyd mayweather tbe, why he deserves it, especially when he says he has never lost standing but on his back lol, funny to see him mention that nate diaz wobbled him and other things, the other's were good, but he will never be able to convince me why mcgregor is worthy of fighting him.

np.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 21, 2017, 10:41:22 pm
watch out ronaldo is real? LOL



ronaldo is ripped.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 21, 2017, 11:16:47 pm
someone on espn just said, "i believe manny pacquiao is a better boxer than conor mcgregor, and manny couldn't hurt floyd with 8's"

lmao. :uhhhfacepalm:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 22, 2017, 03:35:00 pm
23:53 < tyrone1>  https://newspunch.com/promoter-dead-mayweather-mcgregor/
23:53 < polybot> Promoter Found Dead After Exposing Mayweather-McGregor 'Fake Fight' : A boxing promoter who had been working on the upcoming Mayweather-McGregor bout, was found dead within hours of warning the fight is fixed.
23:54 < tyrone1> Mcgriggins ko bet the house on it

^^ tyrone fell for the fake news.. lmao
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 23, 2017, 11:43:21 am
wow.. paulie is so wrecked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGLtPn7NY_0

so sad.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 23, 2017, 05:00:05 pm
The fight pandemonium is about to begin in a few days!

Will be fun to watch all the monkey commentators try to act all in depth and professional.

My prediction: Conor will continually take whips to the face and show a lot of heart until somewhere in the 3-5 round where judge stops the fight or something.

As long as they get your (not you specifically) money, they don't mind what the people call it.

I seen that paulie confrontation all over youtube, it wasn't that much of a scuffle, but paulie couldn't do anything lol.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 25, 2017, 04:42:19 pm
something I posted elsewhere:

It’s going to look alot like the Floyd vs Gatti fight, which was a massacre. However, Conor doesn’t have anywhere near Gatti level heart, we all saw him fold against Nate in their first fight. Gatti would have fought to the death had Buddy McGirt not stopped it.

The speed advantage (hand speed, feet, defense) for Floyd is going to be absolutely insane. Conor will be very aggressive the first few rounds but he won’t touch Floyd, and Floyd will hit him with some massive body shots. By round 3, being frozen by not being able to touch Floyd, in combination with those body shots, Conor will be completely neutralized. Floyd will then look to take Conor’s chin off with some massive shots. I don’t see any way this fight goes past 6 rounds. This fight will most likely end with Conor’s corner throwing in the towel, but I believe there’s a good chance that Conor goes down on a body shot and basically quits. My preferred ending would be to see Conor floored a few times from body shots, him getting up & continuing, then Floyd feinting to the body & catching Conor clean on the chin with a lead right + left hook combo, knocking him out cold.

The only thing i’m worried about is Floyd toying with Conor too much, extending the fight. Not in the sense that it opens up Floyd for more risk. I just want to see Floyd truly try and hurt Conor without holding back.

If Conor shows some true will to win against Floyd, i’ll be impressed. I give him one round with that mentality, until he realizes what he’s really in there with. Then I fully expect to see him fold and try to survive, which will be absolutely impossible & a horrible move strategically. He’s just going to get picked apart. Furthermore, you know damn well Dana White wants Conor to fight in the UFC again… They are basically throwing him in to the wolves with this fight - and risk their “product” being severely damaged. That’s another reason I don’t expect Conor to “fight to the death”.

Post fight interview prediction:

Conor: I kewdn’t get up. I tried. That fookin shot landed right on me liver. I’m sorry I let me fans down but I just couldn’t fookin get up. I said i’d knock Floyd out in tree rounds and I really tried. But fook, what can you do. I hold me head up and I gave it me best. Floyd is the better boxer but If he wants to step into the octagon i’ll sleep him fast, everybody knows that.

:/

At the end of this event, Floyd will be 49-0-0 not 50-0-0, with 1 circus win that doesn’t count against a guy who had no place being in the boxing ring with him.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 05:18:29 pm
irrelevant in a fight like this, but just posting anyway

(https://i.redd.it/e834vl48z3iz.jpg)
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 07:02:23 pm
NSFW HAHA

(http://cdn.craziestsportsfights.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/8d55588bba6525d31c08d023799bd997.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/26/05/4390513E00000578-4825136-image-a-35_1503720924459.jpg)

http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/regional/451153-did-mcgregor-have-an-erection-at-mayweather-weigh-in.html

HAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

i mean i saw that live, but even funnier seeing several news articles about it pop up.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 07:12:55 pm
everyone saying floyd looks bad, lmao.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/bKuYcDtl3oE50_67nZIvo4D90d4=/0x0:3913x2894/1200x800/filters:focal(1675x155:2301x781)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56372067/839146186.0.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/26/04/4390506500000578-0-The_Irish_UFC_star_accused_the_undefeated_Mayweather_of_being_in-a-10_1503719534841.jpg)

looks pretty damn good to me .. not dehydrated at all, still ripped & ready to go.

Conor was sucking down those fluids post weigh in and yacking like he was on meth, sounding winded, talking about how crap Floyd looks.

I seriously wonder how Conor cuts .. he always looks/acts insane when he's making weight, even more so than normal. Kinda odd tBH.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 07:13:57 pm
^^ btw look at Ellerbe laughing again .. dude just can't stop laughing. $$$.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 09:01:53 pm
GREAT prelims so far.. amazing fight between Dulorme / Ugas.

so sick.

Dulorme's body shots were beautiful. 2nd point deduction was b.s.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:01:33 pm
Tabiti was so impressive.. Looked like a Cruiserweight Floyd, great movement/defense/slips, great jab, through some nasty combos, hit Cunningham with some very solid shots. Cunningham had no answers. Lost some respect for Cunningham, did some dirty shit at the end & acted like a bitch.

Tabiti = solid.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:09:37 pm
MY DAD THINKS THIS GUY ON SHOWTIME IS "THE ROCK".

LMFAO I'M DYING.

i go, "he lost alot of weight didn't he?", his response: "sure did"

Brian Custer

(https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/briancustercourtesy.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&crop=0px%2C141px%2C2912px%2C1662px&resize=560%2C320)

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAH

 :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:37:49 pm
man Badou Jack put on an incredible performance. Cleverly is no joke and he destroyed him.

beautiful combos, patient offense, while also slipping everything coming in from Cleverly.

mayweather's stable = serious.

awesome card so far.. now gervante terminator davis coming up, going to be a quick fight probably. He's a killer.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:40:39 pm
Badou called out Adonis.

NICE.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:46:13 pm
Conor getting his hands wrapped while he's in his suit... HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 10:59:08 pm
11 PM dude is still in his suit. lmfao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:03:40 pm
poor conor
i literally have been spontaneously laughing
every time i see conor
like i can't help but crack up
he has to be shitting bricks right now.. realizing he's about to go in there with Floyd. insane.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:04:45 pm
Davis fight should be quick.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:08:52 pm
Davis is wearing the most hilarious shorts i've ever seen.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 26, 2017, 11:22:08 pm
Davis is wearing the most hilarious shorts i've ever seen.

Haha wtf man puffy as hell. Yea dude he's got tons of power but he's feel like Fonseca is staying there with him or naw? Wtf now he's not defending but I don't think he's done anything to earn that confidence so far
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:24:26 pm
Davis looking horrible.. when he unleashes full power, it's pretty insane though..

but god damn, he looks like complete trash tonight.

They said he has a cold but ..... that hideous show boating he's doing, he's getting caught.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:26:36 pm
Davis is wearing the most hilarious shorts i've ever seen.

Haha wtf man puffy as hell. Yea dude he's got tons of power but he's feel like Fonseca is staying there with him or naw? Wtf now he's not defending but I don't think he's done anything to earn that confidence so far

This fight could turn out VERY unexpected ... Fonseca is TOUGH and he could get this into the later rounds the way Davis is fighting.

Looks like this will turn into a competitive fight that might go 12 .. Davis is really disappointing so far, he's mentally not there tonight.

the thing about Davis though, is that damn power.. it's completely insane.. soo.. could end it out of nowhere.

I'm liking Fonseca though, hope he keeps this up and takes it to Davis.. hate to see someone take someone lightly and clown etc, deserve to get their ass beat.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:37:15 pm
WAR FONSECA.

ya I hate showboats in general, but i'll give someone some leeway if they can back it up every time.

still though, when you're young, just get the job done and don't embarrass yourself.

WTF
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:39:21 pm
lost alot of respect for Davis.. dirty & ugly performance.

:/
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:47:01 pm
one thing is for sure, Davis knew exactly what he did to Fonseca.

"here comes the body shot, boom" hah.

he recalled everything in that round that lead to that rabbit punch.. those body shots before the rabbit, were definitely serious. Davis could def have a point about the body shot being the end of Fonseca .. but that showboating, the rabbit punch, and the push down afterwards was very ugly/dirty.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:55:50 pm
well, it's about to go down. should be very embarrassing for Conor .. but damn if i'm wrong, means Conor will shock the world. I'm betting on the former. :D

edit: actually, it wouldn't shock the world. All of these polls have Conor winning, lmfao. It'll shock Vegas and boxing fans. :f
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 26, 2017, 11:57:18 pm
one thing is for sure, Davis knew exactly what he did to Fonseca.

"here comes the body shot, boom" hah.

he recalled everything in that round that lead to that rabbit punch.. those body shots before the rabbit, were definitely serious. Davis could def have a point about the body shot being the end of Fonseca .. but that showboating, the rabbit punch, and the push down afterwards was very ugly/dirty.

Yea man definitely seemed like he was trying to impress too much that fight. I think it's something to do with being under the main event and trying to get noticed. Weird how his style/ mentality is completely different from Floyds while training in his gym.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 26, 2017, 11:59:41 pm
Fonseca could take it, but he didn't seem to have much power at all, Davis' ring side said "his right is so weak, just go over the top of it" something like that.

ya for sure. Fonseca counts on the accumulation of shots & pressure. Typical in your face jab/right hand style. Very impressed with him though, he went against a guy who was supposed to kill him and IMHO he held his own. He was doing so good in the fight that i'll believe him that the rabbit shot really wrecked him.

tbh i'd enjoy seeing a rematch .. but, i'm sure Davis would prepare like crazy and look entirely different.. if that happens, Fonseca is in trouble.

I don't see Davis being able to compete at all with the top guys at 130 right now though .. he needs to really pro up. Lomachenko, Rigo, even Garcia can get down to 130-135.. 130's are stacked. Davis just aint pro enough to be in there with the elites .. Floyd needs to get through to this dude, he looked way too raw and unprepared.. just banking on his power.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:01:17 am
one thing is for sure, Davis knew exactly what he did to Fonseca.

"here comes the body shot, boom" hah.

he recalled everything in that round that lead to that rabbit punch.. those body shots before the rabbit, were definitely serious. Davis could def have a point about the body shot being the end of Fonseca .. but that showboating, the rabbit punch, and the push down afterwards was very ugly/dirty.

Yea man definitely seemed like he was trying to impress too much that fight. I think it's something to do with being under the main event and trying to get noticed. Weird how his style/ mentality is completely different from Floyds while training in his gym.

ya but that's the thing, floyd's style is very "natural" .. very hard for people to adopt it.

Tabiti has legit Floyd style .. he was insanely impressive tonight. Most of Floyd's fighters don't fight anywhere near Floyd's style. Davis is usually just in your face non-stop throwing 1000x kill shots, in insane condition, non stop war - very un-Floyd like.

Bad showing for a co-main like this. Kid still has so much potential, needs to pro up.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:07:26 am
Davis reminds me alot of Tyson .. Even though Davis has a big amateur background, he just seems like raw aggression + talent.

Tyson had raw aggression, talent, and superb technical skill.

So Davis really needs some better trainers or someone to really get through to him to help him with the technical side of things.

Just think about Tyson outjabbing guys with like 10" reach on him, bobbing/weaving in the peakaboo, then throwing murderous shots. Prime Tyson was absolutely incredible. Buster outboxed him though :f
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:07:34 am
Floyd looks like an IRA terrorist.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 27, 2017, 12:08:13 am
One thing I always notice about Connor he always says how he visualized a situation and now it's become reality. His mentality in sport/life is really impressive.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:09:35 am
NEW PREDICTION:

Big Show will run into the ring in round 6, and hit Floyd with a chair.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:17:46 am
HAHAHA FLOYD GOT CAUGHT WITH AN UPPERCUT.

lmfao!@$!@$@!$
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:22:48 am
Conor 2-0 .. but Floyd also looks like this is his game plan .. give Conor a few rounds and slowly pick up his own pace.

Floyd Sr said Conor will be dead in 4 .. so looks like they are letting him expend that energy.

Regardless, Conor has a good counter uppercut and it caught Floyd: that ruined floyd's "perfect performance" already.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:23:03 am
Conor prob trained a lot harder than Mayweather.....

nah .. it's early.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:25:57 am
Conor looking tighter already in round 3, and breathing harder through his mouth. Floyd slowly picking it up.

Floyd focusing on the body like he should but, needs left hooks, not straight rights.

Mad respect to Conor so far.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:30:08 am
like i said, by round 6 Conor will be almost dead, round 8 completely dead.

Mad respect to Conor though.

You can see the fight already turning .. Conor is in serious trouble, he's tightening up/breathing hard through his mouth.

Serious trouble coming.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:34:19 am
Floyd needs to chill with this walking in covering up style, smothering himself and getting held. Seems like he's trying to prove something but, he's smothering himself.

so stupid. Get back to the philly shell and rape him.

Conor looking very tired.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:38:13 am
this ref is awesome. he's allowing Conor to do some "dirtier" shit, which is kinda cool. He's not protecting Floyd .. that's actually great.

Conor looks wrecked but he's really trying hard to stay relaxed .. impressive.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:46:10 am
lmfao if this goes 12, it's a huge LOSS for mayweather, even if he wins.

he better start throwing some serious shit.

Conor about to get a moral victory over Floyd, insane.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:49:34 am
poor Conor .. almost dead.

mad respect tho.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:50:16 am
Lol floyd had a chance to throw a power punch when conor was pacing back towards the corner, but he thru a very weak shot at him..... strange

nah, he's trying to get him out of there NOW .. trust.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:54:13 am
so much respect to Conor .. he really brought it. He really wanted to win, and he didn't look like he wanted to quit in the end.. His corner also didn't save him, which i'm surprised but happy about. He was ready to get KO'd.

absolutely insane.

Floyd looked like he had alot of fun .. but he took some shots and that'll hurt his ego for a LONG time, very long time.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:54:23 am
WTF why did ref stop the fight, dam.

good stoppage .. conor was dead.

edit: also no complaints from Conor.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 12:56:55 am
Conor has some huge balls man. god damn.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 27, 2017, 01:00:14 am
Really happy to have watched that. Connor is a beast for competing the way he did. He's really a special athlete and his mental strength and belief in self is case study worthy. Can't believe he took a situation that most people laughed at and competed better than most pro boxers who I've seen go up against mayweather
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 01:12:18 am
Incredible performance from Conor, he's got some serious balls on him. So much respect.

Floyd had some fun in there but took some shots, that's going to sting his ego for a long time. That counter uppercut landed clean on him in the first, as well as several shots throughout the other rounds. Though, he wasn't fighting "defensively" in his philly shell/moving around like he normally does, so he was just walking Conor down but I still don't think he wanted to eat any shots. He knew there is just no way this could go 12, and you could see him basically increase the pace every round until Conor was completely toast in the end.

I love how the ref let so much go for Conor during the fight.

(http://ste.india.com/sites/default/files/2015/09/13/410918-floyd-mayweather-jr-cnf-700.jpg)

Also, I wish it wasn't stopped. I'd rather have seen Conor flat out cold on the canvas. Notice there was no complaint from Conor immediately after the stoppage though. He was toast.

:D
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 01:20:04 am
Really happy to have watched that. Connor is a beast for competing the way he did. He's really a special athlete and his mental strength and belief in self is case study worthy. Can't believe he took a situation that most people laughed at and competed better than most pro boxers who I've seen go up against mayweather

definitely .. though, Floyd vs elite pros is a different Floyd. Floyd never fights in the style he fought tonight .. He was confident he could use a style like that and make it more entertaining for the fans, but not take any real punishment.

same .. Conor competed harder than I thought he would. I thought he'd compete hard early on but crumbled by round 4 or so .. He didn't crumble until like round 8.. And even then, he held on.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 27, 2017, 01:32:16 am
Really happy to have watched that. Connor is a beast for competing the way he did. He's really a special athlete and his mental strength and belief in self is case study worthy. Can't believe he took a situation that most people laughed at and competed better than most pro boxers who I've seen go up against mayweather

definitely .. though, Floyd vs elite pros is a different Floyd. Floyd never fights in the style he fought tonight .. He was confident he could use a style like that and make it more entertaining for the fans, but not take any real punishment.

same .. Conor competed harder than I thought he would. I thought he'd compete hard early on but crumbled by round 4 or so .. He didn't crumble until like round 8.. And even then, he held on.

Why do you think Conor tired the way he did even with all the preparation though? Is it just that no training/ sparring can compare to the energy you consume with the adrenaline of a real fight? I'm not sure how his trainers wouldn't be able plan his training to make him able to last through fight.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 02:53:22 am
Really happy to have watched that. Connor is a beast for competing the way he did. He's really a special athlete and his mental strength and belief in self is case study worthy. Can't believe he took a situation that most people laughed at and competed better than most pro boxers who I've seen go up against mayweather

definitely .. though, Floyd vs elite pros is a different Floyd. Floyd never fights in the style he fought tonight .. He was confident he could use a style like that and make it more entertaining for the fans, but not take any real punishment.

same .. Conor competed harder than I thought he would. I thought he'd compete hard early on but crumbled by round 4 or so .. He didn't crumble until like round 8.. And even then, he held on.

Why do you think Conor tired the way he did even with all the preparation though? Is it just that no training/ sparring can compare to the energy you consume with the adrenaline of a real fight? I'm not sure how his trainers wouldn't be able plan his training to make him able to last through fight.

can't prepare for an elite pro boxer who is comfortable going 12 rounds, it's impossible. He'd need a year at least to get him through 12, and several "tune up" fights that actually go 12, in a pro setting. He'd have to handle 8, 10, then 12.

Floyd covered up and walked him down. Forced Conor to throw more than he probably prepared to throw. Also the environment/setting probably had Conor's HR up more than he was comfortable with. When Conor started tiring, and Floyd starting hunting more, throwing more shots, it compounded the effect.

There's no preparation for something like this .. other than preparing like a proper professional boxer, by taking tune up fights first & getting the experience. I imagine it's very similar to the "first for everything": first dunk contest, first mile race, first 5k, first pro mma fight, first pro boxing match, but then you have: FIRST PRO BOXING MATCH GOING 12 ROUNDS AGAINST AN ELITE BOXER WHO HAS NEVER GOTTEN TIRED IN A FIGHT. LMFAO.

I mean did you guys see how fresh Floyd was in round 9? He wasn't tired at all .. completely relaxed, confident, fast, sharp, etc. He wasn't in a fight at that point.. Rounds 8/9 for him were "ez work", at that point Conor was basically dead to him, and was just a bag of meat swaying around for him to try and pulverize. Beyond Floyd's incredible conditioning which he's demonstrated in every single fight, his experience allows him to remain calm/relaxed/confident every round. This advantage can only come from experience. Conor tried his best to try and do that, but you just can't learn it on the job like that, against someone who already has that experience. It's just impossible.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 02:54:07 am
btw posted this on T-Nation:

https://forums.t-nation.com/t/mayweather-vs-mcgregor/231073/133

not sure if I posted it on here, but come on this is pretty damn accurate:

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If Conor has any chance of winning, it’s in the first 3 rounds. IMHO it’s absolutely impossible for him to make it past 8 rounds. If he makes it to 8, Floyd will be hunting him & he won’t be able to properly defend himself. Floyd doesn’t get tired & he’s gone 12 in prize fights dozens of times.

Conor better go for broke early on, because he has a 0% chance making it to round 12. If he makes it to round 6, he’s going to be breathing hard through his mouth and defense/reflexes will be greatly diminished.

:D

(http://i.imgur.com/DHVMa7k.jpg)
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Kingfish on August 27, 2017, 03:50:56 am
respect for the mma guy for not gassing out like an idiot in a pro boxing match while making the fight interesting.

floyd took some decent hits. about time he worked for his $3M/min fighting salary.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 11:32:09 am
respect for the mma guy for not gassing out like an idiot in a pro boxing match while making the fight interesting.

yup

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floyd took some decent hits. about time he worked for his $3M/min fighting salary.

right because he didn't work for his money against Maidana, Hatton, DLH, Judah, etc..  :trollface: Those were tough fights for him.

Floyd also deserves some respect for actually fighting in that sloppier style to make the fight more entertaining. He fought in a completely different style than he's used to.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 04:40:36 pm
conor was done. he had no chance of recovering, he had nothing left.

ref should have just let it keep going so that he could get KTFO'd.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 04:52:57 pm
btw... if Conor hadn't thrown so many useless hammer fists, he might have been able to make it to round 11. Seriously, what a waste of energy.

(https://media.gq.com/photos/5716af47f4a67e297bef66ae/master/w_5184/floyd-hermes-shopping.jpg)
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 05:01:59 pm
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hand-injury-kept-me-from-sparring-last-month-camp--119906

floyd states hand injury kept him from sparring the last 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 05:31:10 pm
btw, lots of people on here making analogies between MMA and Boxing: sprinter vs distance runner etc.

Here's one, just think about it energetically:

In a championship MMA fight, you have 5 x 5 minute rounds, with 1 minute rest between each round. That's a total of 25 minutes of work, 5 minutes of rest, and 30 minutes total duration.

In a championship Boxing match, you have 12 x 3 minute rounds, with 1 minute rest between each round. That's a total of 36 minutes of work, 12 minutes of rest, and 48 minutes total duration.

Now imagine this is some kind of olympic track and field event. Each round of work represents some kind of sustained "pace" of effort. If that were the case, you would expect the 5 minute round to be a slower pace than the 3 minute round. There are 7 more rounds in a boxing match though, so it won't be as fast as 5 x 3, but it should definitely be faster than 5 x 5. Now, add onto that, that in MMA you can "stall" considerably on the ground. In boxing, you can stall by "holding", but you still have to support your bodyweight.

So, if an MMA fighter wants to transition to a boxing match of championship caliber, they have to adapt to 7 more rounds at a higher average pace per round.

IMHO, It's rare that you see MMA fights that out pace boxing matches, weight class adjusted. Lighter weights go nuts in MMA, just like in boxing, but in boxing you can see over 1000 punches, 100 per round etc. I've seen some pretty crazy MMA fights but if I try to compare them to crazy boxing fights, boxing easily wins regarding total work.

I'm sure there are some studies out there which confirm this.. But I just think people are "tricked" somewhat, when they see 5 minute rounds vs 3 minute rounds. Another example is 5 RM vs 3 RM. Generally, 3 minutes should allow a higher pace than 5 minutes. If you look at amateur boxing with 2 minute rounds, it's even higher paced than pro boxing usually, it's a non-stop punch fest.. those fights only go a few rounds though, so it's like an all out sprint with less total work.

Finally, if you want to see how hard MMA vs Boxing would be, just go out to a track and run "hard paced" 5 x 5 minutes on one day, then "hard paced" 12 x 3 minutes on another day. If you make it to 12, congratulations. LMFAO. Man it's brutal.. That's probably a decent way of teaching the difference between those championship events to someone.

peace!!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on August 27, 2017, 08:00:47 pm
Great running commentary here. I watched the co-main and the main event. I felt like I'd been sold by the Conor media pre-fight and like Adarq said I think Floyd did a helluva job in there selling the fight mid fight. Did things he wouldn't normally do to make it entertaining.

Cm did better than I expected. One thing annoyed the hell out of me and could have gotten him to rounds 11 & 12. Get your fucking hands up!!! Seriously. How many unprotected shots to the head did he take in that last round???
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 08:39:02 pm
Great running commentary here. I watched the co-main and the main event. I felt like I'd been sold by the Conor media pre-fight and like Adarq said I think Floyd did a helluva job in there selling the fight mid fight. Did things he wouldn't normally do to make it entertaining.

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Cm did better than I expected. One thing annoyed the hell out of me and could have gotten him to rounds 11 & 12. Get your fucking hands up!!! Seriously. How many unprotected shots to the head did he take in that last round???

he couldn't though .. his shoulders probably felt like he had just done a complete failure drop set (several drop sets deep) of shoulder matrix. lmfao. Believe me, if he could have raised his hands he would have. He was lost mentally & dead physically by round 10, he was just in there surviving without being able to properly defend himself - using "woozy body/head movement" because that's all he could muster at that point.

IMHO, I mentioned this earlier, but he might have had less fatigue if he hadn't been hammer fisting all fight. Those shots were mostly useless and he threw a ton of them. Instead of hammer fisting, he should have just relaxed and tied up, or sat in there mostly defensive, looking to throw an uppercut or something significant. He needed to conserve energy in order to TRY and make it to 11/12, which he was doing by throwing lots of relaxed shots without much power on them - good shots but nice and light/fast. That was a great decision .. but his useless hammer fisting and his switching stances stuff real fast, was just wasted effort IMHO.

and yup, he did better than expected. I definitely didn't expect Floyd to fight like that - that made the fight way more interesting .. but guess who also didn't expect that? Conor. So he had to adjust to something that was probably not at all presented to him as a potential look in the fight.. He handled such a change way better than I would have expected. And for sure, 100%, he surprised Floyd. Floyd even said it himself. I don't think Floyd thought Conor had it in him to adjust like that to a completely different style. Floyd has seen pretty much everything - except hammer fists, so he wasn't worried he knew he'd be able to adjust. Conor was preparing for the typical version of Floyd who evades, moving backwards, slipping everything, and throwing hard counters.

fun event, loved it.

fuck all of the boxing purists who hated it.. what I hated most was the Conor hype & people considering it a real boxing match. That is what was pissing me off.. But as a circus event "fight", it was lots of fun & I looked forward to seeing it. The hype probably helped sell more tickets/ppv buys so I understand it.

:D

pc!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Kingfish on August 27, 2017, 10:33:07 pm

right because he didn't work for his money against Maidana, Hatton, DLH, Judah, etc..  :trollface: Those were tough fights for him.

Floyd also deserves some respect for actually fighting in that sloppier style to make the fight more entertaining. He fought in a completely different style than he's used to.

yes. a 40 yr old had to flight sloppy to make it interesting against a 29 yr old prime mma fighter.

 :trollface: mma is where failed boxers go.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 27, 2017, 10:53:25 pm
people are a bunch of whiny bitches:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-mayweather-mcgregor-hernandez-20170827-story.html

so what if Floyd can't beat a current fighter .. doesn't that make this fight a bit more interesting then? he's an old dude coming out of retirement to fight a cocky MMA-striker in his prime. So who cares? I really don't get the whiny hate. It was a fun fight to watch & Floyd got the job done, so who gives af? I think these purists think it hurts boxing .... it'd hurt boxing if Conor gets some confidence, gets another fight with a top fighter at 154 & wins, but that isn't happening. I'm sure Conor is smart enough not to want to go in there again vs someone like GGG.

Also, just search "ali vs football player" or "ali vs wrestler". Floyd just did some throwback circus b.s. People need to chill.

Plus the entire card + prelims was really good .. best "full night of fights" i've seen in a while.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: Coges on August 27, 2017, 11:24:56 pm
If anything it brings a new audience to boxing. I used to watch boxing 20+ years ago. As soon as I got K1 and Pride into my system I never watched boxing again. I may watch more now. There might be a few who are similar to that.

Yah Conor won't box again. He's been there done that now. I think he'll go the complete opposite and try something in jiu-jitsu. Maybe Roger Gracie if he can lure him out of his recent retirement. And no offense to Floyd but Conor would have a much harder time prepping for BJJ than boxing.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/23/16017260/roger-gracie-submits-marcus-buchecha-retires-from-jiu-jitsu-mma
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 28, 2017, 12:01:59 am
post fight interviews

conor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQOnsoxxkU8

floyd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6cLGrBfGHE



Floyd's interview is nice.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 28, 2017, 06:54:31 am
I had to go out of town on friday, but came back yesterday night. But out of town, I already found out the result without watching the video, it was the blab of the town and people blabbing, but meh I knew this was going to happen so didn't really feel bad about the spoiler.

Ok, so the fight, which I watched later and I will be honest.

As we all expected, connor was never going to be good in boxing in his fight and that's exactly what happened. First few rounds mayweather was just not really putting any pressure on connor, and could tell connor was relying on his counter punch and awkwardness to get advantage, but connor had a poor jab, punches were weak, but when floyd would come in conor would come and hit floyd, ie. that uppercut lol. But wtf is with that hammering fist style, so many to the back of the head just annoys me on how unprepared he was and yet he is in the ring with floyd. Floyd did get caught sometimes because he would try and get in, but mayweather was being smart and just hitting few times while mcgregor did his thing.

One thing about conor was I could see he was uncomfortable and he didn't have a jab at all, what he did was try use his hands to keep him back and look for opening to hit, but even though the openings were there he didn't capitalize due to lack of experience so alot of the time he was unsure when to attack and mayweather would hit him right on the face and the body shot floyd through just looked powerful you could tell by connors reaction.

Later on the rounds mcgregor hands being tired and being sluggish and mayweather just started to turn it up and just when he saw connor breathing hard you can tell ok now lets go finish him and that's what floyd.

so my anger is on floyd that he feels satisfied with this win even though given the opponent's experience in boxing and doesn't deserve 50-0.

the fight is also a slap across the face to the paying people who thought mcgregor had a chance 'srsly, you thought he stood a chance, sucka. Thanks for your money'

Connor wanted the ref to let floyd drop him lol, shows how different ufc is to boxing. I don't really respect connor more than before the fight, except for being able to land those shots, even though he looked terrible, but nvm.

and the ufc analyst during the tours was having too much high hopes in mcgregor and thought he had a chance lol. no chance.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 28, 2017, 09:44:06 am
I will watch it again and look at it round by round. Mcregor may not have been knocked out in his previous matches even though wobbled but if you are gassed out then the odds have increased by nearly double.

Note: watching while I am typing here. Anthem has finished. Connor mcgregor team outfit, looking like old day gangsters lol.

ref seems to be only looking at mcregor when giving instructions.

Round 1:
Mcgregor on the attack, hands awkwardly in front and above, but he is looking good with the jabs and mayweather with the shell. Mcgregor a bit hesitant  a few minutes on and pressure is gone. Mayweather just doing nothing and when he tries to come it gets hit. mcgregor show off does nothing. I don't understand mcgregor keeping hands stretched out  but nice uppercut. Mcrgegor tired a little. But round to mcgregor as mayweather did little to none. Uppercut did little damage but still landed.

Conor: 10-9

Round 2:
mcregor somehow lost is composure as a boxer when trying to put pressure, like awkwardness and just uncomfortable. lol at the hammer fist like he did against paulie, didn't expect him to do that. mcgregor switching and landing some and suprisingly knows some combos. But mayweather just making one two shots. what is with mcgregor holding mayweather from behind does this a lot.

Conor: 10-9

Round 3:
lol at the pressure and jabs but then going to the hammer fists lol. omg again. floyd with the occasional body shots. tiring mcgregor. but they seem to be grabbing and tangling a lot. mcregor somehow can't stop hammering. mcgregor has good jab and good reach. but mayweather continuing with his pot shots to body, head.

Conor 10 - 9
(https://i.imgur.com/krlakcb.jpg)

Round 4:
Mcgregor tired. mcgregor going to the body and putting pressure nicely suprisingly then the hammer fists. mcgregor landing some and now mayweather starting to put the pressure now, landing and moving. mcgregor breathing through his mouth. damn the body shots from mayweather. light jabs from mcgregor but does nothing.
nice mayweather lean back and make opponent miss then come back and shoot.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 5:
lol at mcgregor working at angles but he seems to run from one side to other. tired and landing low power shots. mayweather fainted nicely to see how connor would react.  mcregor tangling up a lot now. mayweather still looking fresh compared to mcgregor. lol at the push by mayweather then retaliation by the ref. His team are not giving good gameplan or anything.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 6:
connor no more pressure, don't know why floyd turning his back. but mayweather on the offense now and cos mcgregor is tired floyd not letting him think and now mayweather just killing mcgregor on the attack powerful right hand. mcregor tired and using jab and relying on counter as too tired to go on attack. wow looking at the slow motion mcgregor landed some jobs weak nevertheless but accurately even when mayweather ducking and weaving.

Mayweather 10-9

Round 7:
mcgregor light jabs here and there. tangling up again. mcgregor against tying him up.  dam the pressure from mayweather walking mcgregor down hitting him right infront straight right all over the place.. mayweather just landing at will on the face and mcgregor don't know what to do. no more power from mcgregor. poor mcgregor looking tired and clueless lol.

Mayweather 10-9

Mayweather just eat mcgregors hits which does nothing and comes with a straight right of his own and knock mcgregors head back.

(https://i.imgur.com/hvCNpfv.jpg)

Round 8:
Mcrgegor ineffective and mayweather turns his back. paulie defends that it's mcrgegor turning. def mayweather turning his back and just staying there. some good jabs from mcgregor by mayweather hits power and accuracy. and mcgregor just too tired. mayweather is putting pressure on mcgregor who is too tired to think.  that's what good about mayweather he is smart when putting pressure. upper cut followed by right hand and then just walking mcgregor down. what is with showtime saying its close, it's not close, mcgregor no pressure and any power in his jab and mayweather just forcing the pace and putting smart pressure.

Mayweather 10-9

Round 9:
damn mcgregor putting the pressureo on mayweather and lol when ref stops it mcgregor stil hitting mayweather. but mcgregor got something. mayweather now on the offense seeing a lot of hooks. damn the combos from mayweather and that sharp uppercut from mayweather. damn mcgregor very tired. conor legs no control. mayweather just giving it to mcgregor lol. no response so mcgregor has to hold. oh my mcgregor just full out of it. mayweather just finishing him.

Mayweather 10-9 possible even 10-8

lol mcgregor team saying his def tired so in round 10 just tie him up, nice advice lol.

Round 10:
mcgregor just trying to touch him with jabs and tie him up. omg mcrgegor just a standing hitting bag and just almost falls. mayweatherr just beating him up and just hitting him all over the place. good stoppage.

My Score: 87-83

Comments: It was a good fight, I enjoyed seeing mayweather put the pressure, mcgregor showed good boxing skills but not enough endurance to withstand it and lacks boxing smarts.

Post fight interview:
mcregor just crazy thinking to allow the ref to let him continue until he drops. he says it was just fatigue lol this is boxing my friend then he says that he is always like this fatigued and 'flowy' lol. This was the biggest cons against mcgregor's chances of winning was he hasn't done 12 hard rounds with 1 min rest. good gameplan from from mayweather to let mcgregor try and tire himself then mcgregor goes in the for the attack. I would have loved to see this type of offence with pacquiao but that would be mayweather's funeral. lol at jim gray's question: did he look tired to you.

I wonder what mayweather was looking at above.

Undercards: gervonta davis was better than expect as in his last fight he was just a lot nervous and didn't fight that good but now he was powerful even though the last knockout winning punch was to the back of the head. but I would like to see him in a tough fight.

But good fight, good attempt from mcgregor but his inexperience was the downside.  But atleast he chose a good way to end his career making it exciting even though it was against an unexperience fighter, but better than berto, even though berto better than mcgregor that fight was boring. Def not returning to boxing, he would not last against any boxer.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 28, 2017, 12:29:56 pm
A lot of reactions as expected, the ones who complained I laugh at them that they got fooled into the promotion of the fight thinking it was going to be close lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5LWRvdHUck

Oh yeah and I forgot miguel cotto just blasted through kamegai, power punching and will retire after this fight. a legend in boxing.

Both have good point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbaDcKmzgo
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 28, 2017, 02:22:35 pm
I had to go out of town on friday, but came back yesterday night. But out of town, I already found out the result without watching the video, it was the blab of the town and people blabbing, but meh I knew this was going to happen so didn't really feel bad about the spoiler.

Ok, so the fight, which I watched later and I will be honest.

As we all expected, connor was never going to be good in boxing in his fight and that's exactly what happened. First few rounds mayweather was just not really putting any pressure on connor, and could tell connor was relying on his counter punch and awkwardness to get advantage, but connor had a poor jab, punches were weak, but when floyd would come in conor would come and hit floyd, ie. that uppercut lol. But wtf is with that hammering fist style, so many to the back of the head just annoys me on how unprepared he was and yet he is in the ring with floyd. Floyd did get caught sometimes because he would try and get in, but mayweather was being smart and just hitting few times while mcgregor did his thing.

One thing about conor was I could see he was uncomfortable and he didn't have a jab at all, what he did was try use his hands to keep him back and look for opening to hit, but even though the openings were there he didn't capitalize due to lack of experience so alot of the time he was unsure when to attack and mayweather would hit him right on the face and the body shot floyd through just looked powerful you could tell by connors reaction.

Later on the rounds mcgregor hands being tired and being sluggish and mayweather just started to turn it up and just when he saw connor breathing hard you can tell ok now lets go finish him and that's what floyd.

so my anger is on floyd that he feels satisfied with this win even though given the opponent's experience in boxing and doesn't deserve 50-0.

fwiw, floyd ducked all of the 50-0 questions. I don't think he's satisfied with it at all .. I believe he thinks it was just some entertainment and a fun event for "the fans".

I didn't hear him brag about 50-0, not once. In the clips I saw, he dodged all of that.

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the fight is also a slap across the face to the paying people who thought mcgregor had a chance 'srsly, you thought he stood a chance, sucka. Thanks for your money'

Connor wanted the ref to let floyd drop him lol, shows how different ufc is to boxing. I don't really respect connor more than before the fight, except for being able to land those shots, even though he looked terrible, but nvm.

and the ufc analyst during the tours was having too much high hopes in mcgregor and thought he had a chance lol. no chance.

I just can't believe so many people bought in to the Conor hype.. Let's imagine the opposite: Floyd going to fight Conor in the Octagon using MMA rules. If someone tried hyping Floyd at all i'd laugh so hard. I believe Floyd would have a legitimate chance if Conor just stood there and traded shots, but he'd never do that. He'd throw some leg kicks, take him down, and submit him in seconds. So, millions of people thinking they were going to see Floyd lying on the canvas bleeding, KO'd, hurt, etc, was just annoying to me. It's like reality doesn't exist anymore. lmfao.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 28, 2017, 02:32:13 pm
I will watch it again and look at it round by round. Mcregor may not have been knocked out in his previous matches even though wobbled but if you are gassed out then the odds have increased by nearly double.

Note: watching while I am typing here. Anthem has finished. Connor mcgregor team outfit, looking like old day gangsters lol.

ref seems to be only looking at mcregor when giving instructions.

ya that was weird, but, as the fight played out, it made perfect sense. Conor was doing tons of dirty shit.. i'm personally glad the ref let him do it though. If the ref had protected mayweather too much, we'd have people whining non stop about the fight.

fwiw, floyd did some good slick dirty shit to him in the middle rounds, as payback basically.. lots of forearm to the throat/face lmfao.

love when the ref pushed mayweather.. jajaja

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Round 1:
Mcgregor on the attack, hands awkwardly in front and above, but he is looking good with the jabs and mayweather with the shell. Mcgregor a bit hesitant  a few minutes on and pressure is gone. Mayweather just doing nothing and when he tries to come it gets hit. mcgregor show off does nothing. I don't understand mcgregor keeping hands stretched out  but nice uppercut. Mcrgegor tired a little. But round to mcgregor as mayweather did little to none. Uppercut did little damage but still landed.

Conor: 10-9

i laughed so hard when Floyd got hit with that uppercut.. felt like i was on the street courts and someone who wasn't supposed to be able to do someone dirty, just broke their ankles. I could picture people running around going crazy laughing/yelling.. that was hilarious.

Floyd didn't expect that counter to be so perfect.

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Round 2:
mcregor somehow lost is composure as a boxer when trying to put pressure, like awkwardness and just uncomfortable. lol at the hammer fist like he did against paulie, didn't expect him to do that. mcgregor switching and landing some and suprisingly knows some combos. But mayweather just making one two shots. what is with mcgregor holding mayweather from behind does this a lot.

Conor: 10-9

i recall him doing that fancy switch stance stuff, real fast. very dumb imho, waste of energy and useless.

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Round 3:
lol at the pressure and jabs but then going to the hammer fists lol. omg again. floyd with the occasional body shots. tiring mcgregor. but they seem to be grabbing and tangling a lot. mcregor somehow can't stop hammering. mcgregor has good jab and good reach. but mayweather continuing with his pot shots to body, head.

Conor 10 - 9
(https://i.imgur.com/krlakcb.jpg)

was disappointed with floyd's body attack .. would have loved to see him throw more hook style shots, not just straights. I don't think most of those straight shots did much damage.. hook shots countering under conor's shots would have been brutal.

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Round 4:
Mcgregor tired. mcgregor going to the body and putting pressure nicely suprisingly then the hammer fists. mcgregor landing some and now mayweather starting to put the pressure now, landing and moving. mcgregor breathing through his mouth. damn the body shots from mayweather. light jabs from mcgregor but does nothing.
nice mayweather lean back and make opponent miss then come back and shoot.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 5:
lol at mcgregor working at angles but he seems to run from one side to other. tired and landing low power shots. mayweather fainted nicely to see how connor would react.  mcregor tangling up a lot now. mayweather still looking fresh compared to mcgregor. lol at the push by mayweather then retaliation by the ref. His team are not giving good gameplan or anything.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 6:
connor no more pressure, don't know why floyd turning his back. but mayweather on the offense now and cos mcgregor is tired floyd not letting him think and now mayweather just killing mcgregor on the attack powerful right hand. mcregor tired and using jab and relying on counter as too tired to go on attack. wow looking at the slow motion mcgregor landed some jobs weak nevertheless but accurately even when mayweather ducking and weaving.

Mayweather 10-9

lmfao at floyd turning his back. ref literally yelled at him to stop turning.. such a good ref in this fight.

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Round 7:
mcgregor light jabs here and there. tangling up again. mcgregor against tying him up.  dam the pressure from mayweather walking mcgregor down hitting him right infront straight right all over the place.. mayweather just landing at will on the face and mcgregor don't know what to do. no more power from mcgregor. poor mcgregor looking tired and clueless lol.

Mayweather 10-9

Mayweather just eat mcgregors hits which does nothing and comes with a straight right of his own and knock mcgregors head back.

(https://i.imgur.com/hvCNpfv.jpg)

Round 8:
Mcrgegor ineffective and mayweather turns his back. paulie defends that it's mcrgegor turning. def mayweather turning his back and just staying there. some good jabs from mcgregor by mayweather hits power and accuracy. and mcgregor just too tired. mayweather is putting pressure on mcgregor who is too tired to think.  that's what good about mayweather he is smart when putting pressure. upper cut followed by right hand and then just walking mcgregor down. what is with showtime saying its close, it's not close, mcgregor no pressure and any power in his jab and mayweather just forcing the pace and putting smart pressure.

Mayweather 10-9

Round 9:
damn mcgregor putting the pressureo on mayweather and lol when ref stops it mcgregor stil hitting mayweather. but mcgregor got something. mayweather now on the offense seeing a lot of hooks. damn the combos from mayweather and that sharp uppercut from mayweather. damn mcgregor very tired. conor legs no control. mayweather just giving it to mcgregor lol. no response so mcgregor has to hold. oh my mcgregor just full out of it. mayweather just finishing him.

Mayweather 10-9 possible even 10-8

lol mcgregor team saying his def tired so in round 10 just tie him up, nice advice lol.

lmfao!

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Round 10:
mcgregor just trying to touch him with jabs and tie him up. omg mcrgegor just a standing hitting bag and just almost falls. mayweatherr just beating him up and just hitting him all over the place. good stoppage.

My Score: 87-83

Comments: It was a good fight, I enjoyed seeing mayweather put the pressure, mcgregor showed good boxing skills but not enough endurance to withstand it and lacks boxing smarts.

Post fight interview:
mcregor just crazy thinking to allow the ref to let him continue until he drops. he says it was just fatigue lol this is boxing my friend then he says that he is always like this fatigued and 'flowy' lol. This was the biggest cons against mcgregor's chances of winning was he hasn't done 12 hard rounds with 1 min rest. good gameplan from from mayweather to let mcgregor try and tire himself then mcgregor goes in the for the attack. I would have loved to see this type of offence with pacquiao but that would be mayweather's funeral. lol at jim gray's question: did he look tired to you.

I wonder what mayweather was looking at above.

Undercards: gervonta davis was better than expect as in his last fight he was just a lot nervous and didn't fight that good but now he was powerful even though the last knockout winning punch was to the back of the head. but I would like to see him in a tough fight.

But good fight, good attempt from mcgregor but his inexperience was the downside.  But atleast he chose a good way to end his career making it exciting even though it was against an unexperience fighter, but better than berto, even though berto better than mcgregor that fight was boring. Def not returning to boxing, he would not last against any boxer.

great recap.

Conor trying to challenge the stoppage after the fight is just good politics. Look how many people believed him that he would be able to recover etc. He was completely done at that point. Wish the ref had let it go on and let Floyd knock him unconscious.. Shouldn't have saved him. He didn't look like he was quitting either, he was just wrecked but trying to hang out, so he'd have hung in there until Floyd turned his lights out.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 28, 2017, 02:37:24 pm
A lot of reactions as expected, the ones who complained I laugh at them that they got fooled into the promotion of the fight thinking it was going to be close lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5LWRvdHUck

lmao great interview with bellew.

Thing is, I don't mind if Floyd carried him .. as long as Floyd ended it. If it went to a decision, that would have been a disgrace.. So Floyd definitely carried him but with the intent of stopping him from 6 onward. Totally cool with that.

One thing I disagree about, is Conor having completely horrendous punching. He had some nice jabs in there, some solid counters, and a beautiful left uppercut counter. So that's pure b.s. that everything was horrendous.

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Oh yeah and I forgot miguel cotto just blasted through kamegai, power punching and will retire after this fight. a legend in boxing.

Both have good point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbaDcKmzgo

I saw a few minutes of atlas/smith, absolute garbage. I like Atlas, but he gets carried away with bullshit & can be blinded by his own narrative. Smith is an absolute disgrace as a boxing analyst, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a boxing ring to give analysis. Smith is completely clueless and doesn't know shit about boxing. The combo of atlas/smith is toxic.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 29, 2017, 12:08:50 am
this gif is funny.. lmfao!

https://zippy.gfycat.com/ImpressiveVillainousAgama.webm

hard punch on conor

https://g.redditmedia.com/BbWO3q6lpwgAAzVeSXQtM6bdKRda_AlmQn7xOBKR1UM.gif?w=600&fm=mp4&mp4-fragmented=false&s=60372696ea589d1eabde96dda4abff7a

mcgregor's uppercut

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/sophisticatedfrenchgannet

slick

https://gfycat.com/FilthySeveralDuckbillcat

double hit

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/deficientlazyiberianemeraldlizard

conor trying to use some weird techniques

https://gfycat.com/BlackAbandonedKid

hahahahaha:

https://twitter.com/inomnomcom/status/901664107203612673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.givemesport.com%2F1132893-conor-mcgregor-ridiculed-on-twitter-for-hilarious-moment-during-floyd-mayweather-fight


jack teeing up on cleverly:

https://gfycat.com/OptimalWarmCurassow

eek



didn't read yet, but headline caught attention:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2017/08/27/floyd-mayweather-attempted-bet-400000-beating-conor-mcgregor/

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Floyd tried to bet $400,000 that he would win the fight in the Middle of the 10th round by knockout.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 29, 2017, 07:35:23 am
I will watch it again and look at it round by round. Mcregor may not have been knocked out in his previous matches even though wobbled but if you are gassed out then the odds have increased by nearly double.

Note: watching while I am typing here. Anthem has finished. Connor mcgregor team outfit, looking like old day gangsters lol.

ref seems to be only looking at mcregor when giving instructions.

ya that was weird, but, as the fight played out, it made perfect sense. Conor was doing tons of dirty shit.. i'm personally glad the ref let him do it though. If the ref had protected mayweather too much, we'd have people whining non stop about the fight.

fwiw, floyd did some good slick dirty shit to him in the middle rounds, as payback basically.. lots of forearm to the throat/face lmfao.

love when the ref pushed mayweather.. jajaja

yep those hammer fists are just really crazy to see.
ye there were def some elbow pushes and elbow rubs against him as payback but also for smothering alot.

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Round 1:
Mcgregor on the attack, hands awkwardly in front and above, but he is looking good with the jabs and mayweather with the shell. Mcgregor a bit hesitant  a few minutes on and pressure is gone. Mayweather just doing nothing and when he tries to come it gets hit. mcgregor show off does nothing. I don't understand mcgregor keeping hands stretched out  but nice uppercut. Mcrgegor tired a little. But round to mcgregor as mayweather did little to none. Uppercut did little damage but still landed.

Conor: 10-9

i laughed so hard when Floyd got hit with that uppercut.. felt like i was on the street courts and someone who wasn't supposed to be able to do someone dirty, just broke their ankles. I could picture people running around going crazy laughing/yelling.. that was hilarious.

Floyd didn't expect that counter to be so perfect.

yep, you can see as floyd started to throw connor is in the process of throwing the uppercut and boom it lands lol, even though I didn't see any power but the fact it landed.

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Round 2:
mcregor somehow lost is composure as a boxer when trying to put pressure, like awkwardness and just uncomfortable. lol at the hammer fist like he did against paulie, didn't expect him to do that. mcgregor switching and landing some and suprisingly knows some combos. But mayweather just making one two shots. what is with mcgregor holding mayweather from behind does this a lot.

Conor: 10-9

i recall him doing that fancy switch stance stuff, real fast. very dumb imho, waste of energy and useless.

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Round 3:
lol at the pressure and jabs but then going to the hammer fists lol. omg again. floyd with the occasional body shots. tiring mcgregor. but they seem to be grabbing and tangling a lot. mcregor somehow can't stop hammering. mcgregor has good jab and good reach. but mayweather continuing with his pot shots to body, head.

Conor 10 - 9
(https://i.imgur.com/krlakcb.jpg)

was disappointed with floyd's body attack .. would have loved to see him throw more hook style shots, not just straights. I don't think most of those straight shots did much damage.. hook shots countering under conor's shots would have been brutal.

Ye floyd could have done more and could have done more damage early on but decided to stick to a game plan even though there were opportunities where he could have done alot more.

That image above, when connor threw that right, floyd didn't flinch and that image was the jab fully extended lol.

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Round 4:
Mcgregor tired. mcgregor going to the body and putting pressure nicely suprisingly then the hammer fists. mcgregor landing some and now mayweather starting to put the pressure now, landing and moving. mcgregor breathing through his mouth. damn the body shots from mayweather. light jabs from mcgregor but does nothing.
nice mayweather lean back and make opponent miss then come back and shoot.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 5:
lol at mcgregor working at angles but he seems to run from one side to other. tired and landing low power shots. mayweather fainted nicely to see how connor would react.  mcregor tangling up a lot now. mayweather still looking fresh compared to mcgregor. lol at the push by mayweather then retaliation by the ref. His team are not giving good gameplan or anything.

Mayweather 10-9 (close)

Round 6:
connor no more pressure, don't know why floyd turning his back. but mayweather on the offense now and cos mcgregor is tired floyd not letting him think and now mayweather just killing mcgregor on the attack powerful right hand. mcregor tired and using jab and relying on counter as too tired to go on attack. wow looking at the slow motion mcgregor landed some jobs weak nevertheless but accurately even when mayweather ducking and weaving.

Mayweather 10-9

lmfao at floyd turning his back. ref literally yelled at him to stop turning.. such a good ref in this fight.

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Round 7:
mcgregor light jabs here and there. tangling up again. mcgregor against tying him up.  dam the pressure from mayweather walking mcgregor down hitting him right infront straight right all over the place.. mayweather just landing at will on the face and mcgregor don't know what to do. no more power from mcgregor. poor mcgregor looking tired and clueless lol.

Mayweather 10-9

Mayweather just eat mcgregors hits which does nothing and comes with a straight right of his own and knock mcgregors head back.

(https://i.imgur.com/hvCNpfv.jpg)

Round 8:
Mcrgegor ineffective and mayweather turns his back. paulie defends that it's mcrgegor turning. def mayweather turning his back and just staying there. some good jabs from mcgregor by mayweather hits power and accuracy. and mcgregor just too tired. mayweather is putting pressure on mcgregor who is too tired to think.  that's what good about mayweather he is smart when putting pressure. upper cut followed by right hand and then just walking mcgregor down. what is with showtime saying its close, it's not close, mcgregor no pressure and any power in his jab and mayweather just forcing the pace and putting smart pressure.

Mayweather 10-9

Round 9:
damn mcgregor putting the pressureo on mayweather and lol when ref stops it mcgregor stil hitting mayweather. but mcgregor got something. mayweather now on the offense seeing a lot of hooks. damn the combos from mayweather and that sharp uppercut from mayweather. damn mcgregor very tired. conor legs no control. mayweather just giving it to mcgregor lol. no response so mcgregor has to hold. oh my mcgregor just full out of it. mayweather just finishing him.

Mayweather 10-9 possible even 10-8

lol mcgregor team saying his def tired so in round 10 just tie him up, nice advice lol.

lmfao!

that glove is so soft floyd is basically eating it, see how it molds around floyds face and does no damage, cos ufc fighters they don't have the padding its like little padding gloves with fingers exposed, but this one is new to connor lol. then mayweather returns with a straight to pop his head back to show how it's done. Also in the image above as connor continues to extend his arm to continue the punch it actually just slips off floyds face off to floyd's right and floyd comes back straight into the face lol.

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Round 10:
mcgregor just trying to touch him with jabs and tie him up. omg mcrgegor just a standing hitting bag and just almost falls. mayweatherr just beating him up and just hitting him all over the place. good stoppage.

My Score: 87-83

Comments: It was a good fight, I enjoyed seeing mayweather put the pressure, mcgregor showed good boxing skills but not enough endurance to withstand it and lacks boxing smarts.

Post fight interview:
mcregor just crazy thinking to allow the ref to let him continue until he drops. he says it was just fatigue lol this is boxing my friend then he says that he is always like this fatigued and 'flowy' lol. This was the biggest cons against mcgregor's chances of winning was he hasn't done 12 hard rounds with 1 min rest. good gameplan from from mayweather to let mcgregor try and tire himself then mcgregor goes in the for the attack. I would have loved to see this type of offence with pacquiao but that would be mayweather's funeral. lol at jim gray's question: did he look tired to you.

I wonder what mayweather was looking at above.

Undercards: gervonta davis was better than expect as in his last fight he was just a lot nervous and didn't fight that good but now he was powerful even though the last knockout winning punch was to the back of the head. but I would like to see him in a tough fight.

But good fight, good attempt from mcgregor but his inexperience was the downside.  But atleast he chose a good way to end his career making it exciting even though it was against an unexperience fighter, but better than berto, even though berto better than mcgregor that fight was boring. Def not returning to boxing, he would not last against any boxer.

great recap.

Conor trying to challenge the stoppage after the fight is just good politics. Look how many people believed him that he would be able to recover etc. He was completely done at that point. Wish the ref had let it go on and let Floyd knock him unconscious.. Shouldn't have saved him. He didn't look like he was quitting either, he was just wrecked but trying to hang out, so he'd have hung in there until Floyd turned his lights out.

because he was not fighting back the ref officially should have stopped so it was good, but I also would have like him to let him continue and drop him but there is a point before those accumulating damaging punch takes its effect. but still happy with outcome.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 29, 2017, 07:39:18 am
I had to go out of town on friday, but came back yesterday night. But out of town, I already found out the result without watching the video, it was the blab of the town and people blabbing, but meh I knew this was going to happen so didn't really feel bad about the spoiler.

Ok, so the fight, which I watched later and I will be honest.

As we all expected, connor was never going to be good in boxing in his fight and that's exactly what happened. First few rounds mayweather was just not really putting any pressure on connor, and could tell connor was relying on his counter punch and awkwardness to get advantage, but connor had a poor jab, punches were weak, but when floyd would come in conor would come and hit floyd, ie. that uppercut lol. But wtf is with that hammering fist style, so many to the back of the head just annoys me on how unprepared he was and yet he is in the ring with floyd. Floyd did get caught sometimes because he would try and get in, but mayweather was being smart and just hitting few times while mcgregor did his thing.

One thing about conor was I could see he was uncomfortable and he didn't have a jab at all, what he did was try use his hands to keep him back and look for opening to hit, but even though the openings were there he didn't capitalize due to lack of experience so alot of the time he was unsure when to attack and mayweather would hit him right on the face and the body shot floyd through just looked powerful you could tell by connors reaction.

Later on the rounds mcgregor hands being tired and being sluggish and mayweather just started to turn it up and just when he saw connor breathing hard you can tell ok now lets go finish him and that's what floyd.

so my anger is on floyd that he feels satisfied with this win even though given the opponent's experience in boxing and doesn't deserve 50-0.

fwiw, floyd ducked all of the 50-0 questions. I don't think he's satisfied with it at all .. I believe he thinks it was just some entertainment and a fun event for "the fans".

I didn't hear him brag about 50-0, not once. In the clips I saw, he dodged all of that.

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the fight is also a slap across the face to the paying people who thought mcgregor had a chance 'srsly, you thought he stood a chance, sucka. Thanks for your money'

Connor wanted the ref to let floyd drop him lol, shows how different ufc is to boxing. I don't really respect connor more than before the fight, except for being able to land those shots, even though he looked terrible, but nvm.

and the ufc analyst during the tours was having too much high hopes in mcgregor and thought he had a chance lol. no chance.

I just can't believe so many people bought in to the Conor hype.. Let's imagine the opposite: Floyd going to fight Conor in the Octagon using MMA rules. If someone tried hyping Floyd at all i'd laugh so hard. I believe Floyd would have a legitimate chance if Conor just stood there and traded shots, but he'd never do that. He'd throw some leg kicks, take him down, and submit him in seconds. So, millions of people thinking they were going to see Floyd lying on the canvas bleeding, KO'd, hurt, etc, was just annoying to me. It's like reality doesn't exist anymore. lmfao.

Ye that is true he did try and duck those questions and try not to answer it, but i'm surprised he broke the pacquiao ppv record, this makes me realize that he made a good business choice in choosing Mcgregor because of the money and not because fans wanted, because only a few wanted it.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 29, 2017, 07:47:54 am
this gif is funny.. lmfao!

https://zippy.gfycat.com/ImpressiveVillainousAgama.webm

hard punch on conor

https://g.redditmedia.com/BbWO3q6lpwgAAzVeSXQtM6bdKRda_AlmQn7xOBKR1UM.gif?w=600&fm=mp4&mp4-fragmented=false&s=60372696ea589d1eabde96dda4abff7a

mcgregor's uppercut

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/sophisticatedfrenchgannet

slick

https://gfycat.com/FilthySeveralDuckbillcat

double hit

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/deficientlazyiberianemeraldlizard

conor trying to use some weird techniques

https://gfycat.com/BlackAbandonedKid

hahahahaha:

https://twitter.com/inomnomcom/status/901664107203612673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.givemesport.com%2F1132893-conor-mcgregor-ridiculed-on-twitter-for-hilarious-moment-during-floyd-mayweather-fight


jack teeing up on cleverly:

https://gfycat.com/OptimalWarmCurassow

eek



didn't read yet, but headline caught attention:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2017/08/27/floyd-mayweather-attempted-bet-400000-beating-conor-mcgregor/

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Floyd tried to bet $400,000 that he would win the fight in the Middle of the 10th round by knockout.

The hard punch on connor is the one where floyd basically ate connors jab as it molded into his mouth and slipped to the side and floyd returns and that boop punch from connor just touching floyd's nose lol.

if you see that slick video link it's funny you see connor's experience in boxing instead of moving to the other side like other boxers would he actually runs in that direction body facing the direction he is moving then gets caught lol.

also floyd mentioned in the interview that he tried to bet $400,000 on himself but they didn't accept it as they thought he is probably fixing the fight so that he wins, so he told his fried to do it for him lol.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 29, 2017, 08:16:37 am
Just like the lawsuits that were filed because of the may - pac ppv, same is happening with may-connor but for the failing of showtime to broadcast the fight properly because of the crashed servers maybe that floyd said that happened.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-mcgregor-showtime-sued-over-failed-stream--119938

Nearly 3 million watched via illegal streams.
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-nearly-3-million-watch-illegal-streams--119939

And also this reminds me in the 9th round when mcgregor hit mayweather that made mayweather hold onto his stomach supposedly, they actually thought that was a legal blow, I saw it and it was low. lol at this article. I doubt mcgregor would have finished mayweather if the ref let him continue. Also what does mcgregor do as he supposedly hurts him and has him against the ropes slightly leaning he goes to his sides and holds him like wtf how is that capitalizing on the damage you just did lol.

(http://i.imgur.com/1GLKK9S.jpg)

Then this is how connor capitalizes on seeing mayweather hurt and backed against the ropes.

(http://i.imgur.com/fpHRr5F.jpg)

http://www.boxingscene.com/skip-bayless-referee-saved-floyd-mayweather-round-nine--119941
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 29, 2017, 03:12:05 pm
the day after the conor fight...................

HAH

Allen iverson talking to him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iwU6rPESU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8QpJmioTXo

that's kind of funny.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 30, 2017, 03:08:06 pm
Mayweather vs mcgregor smashes the may-pac ppv by 2 million ppv buys. I have mixed emotions about this, disappointing to see that a fight lopsided/onesided like this would generate that many interest but then I realize that it's not a boxing match it's a fight which we all know mayweather would win, so it's more of a exhibition, wwe wrestlemania, circus show fight to entertain the people rather than the best fight the best and therefore you attract non boxing fans because it's a theatrical fight on mayweather's part and then a chance for mcgregor to try and upset it.

So it is what it is a theatrical exhibition fight to entertain the masses.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4355021/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-pay-per-view-buy-ppv/
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 31, 2017, 10:40:45 am
I think this is the footage paulie released in response to connor releasing footage of knocking malignaggi out. He later on says that it was all staged and people actually fell for this footage. lol funny video. One thing I can't stand is malignaggi keep saying 'suckers' get over it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2k5d2coiU
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: undoubtable on August 31, 2017, 10:46:17 am
My take on the fight was far different and I went in thinking it was just a theatrical fight. I now remember the McGregor thread adarq opened showing and discussing his attention to movements, detail, and body awareness. I had forgotten all about that but will say that the fight renewed my intrigue with McGregor and I definitely came in more passive if not pessimistic about the fight.

I was actually inspired by McGregor's effort and confidence. I think his mental strength is outstanding in that he believed he could win until the very end. That along with his detailed training inspired me more than anything. If anything, the Victor Ortiz fight was truly a farce, much more than this one. I thought that was a boxer who went in for the payday and mentally just imploded or maybe just gave in not thinking he could win. To this day I still don't know what happened there.

McGregor just posted a recap of the fight on instagram and I just think it shows he's actually an athlete. You can tell he's been thinking about why he couldn't last 12 rounds "under stress" which is the first thing that came to mind for me.

"Just coming back around after a whirlwind couple of days. Thank you to all the fans for the support of the fight and the event! Without your support we as fighters are nothing so I thank you all! Thank you to my team of coaches and training partners! I had an amazing team and It truly was an amazing and enjoyable camp, and honestly I feel with just a little change in certain areas of the prep, we could have built the engine for 12 full rounds under stress, and got the better result on the night. Getting to 12 rounds alone in practice was always the challenge in this camp. We started slowly getting to the 12 and decreasing the stress in the rounds the closer it got to 12. I think for the time we had, 10 weeks in camp, it had to be done this way. If I began with a loaded 12 rounds under much stress I would have only hit a brick wall and lost progress as a result and potentially not made the fight. A little more time and we could have made the 12 cleanly, while under more stress, and made it thru the later rounds in the actual fight. I feel every decision we made at each given time was the correct decision, and I am proud of everyone of my team for what we done in the short time that we done it. 30 minutes was the longest I have fought in a ring or cage or anywhere. Surpassing my previous time of 25 minutes. I am happy for the experience and happy to take all these great lessons with me and implement them into my camp going forward. Another day another lesson! Congrats to Floyd on a well fought match. Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down. I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer. But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter. Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure. Here is a toast of whiskey to everyone involved in this event and everyone who enjoyed it! Thank you to you all! Onto the next one! "
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 31, 2017, 01:34:00 pm
Mayweather vs mcgregor smashes the may-pac ppv by 2 million ppv buys. I have mixed emotions about this, disappointing to see that a fight lopsided/onesided like this would generate that many interest but then I realize that it's not a boxing match it's a fight which we all know mayweather would win, so it's more of a exhibition, wwe wrestlemania, circus show fight to entertain the people rather than the best fight the best and therefore you attract non boxing fans because it's a theatrical fight on mayweather's part and then a chance for mcgregor to try and upset it.

So it is what it is a theatrical exhibition fight to entertain the masses.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4355021/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-pay-per-view-buy-ppv/

i dno.. that's to be expected.

floyd / pac = boxing fans + casual fans

floyd / conor = boxing fans + mma fans + casual fans + WWE fans

so I just think the pool of potential buys is waaaaay bigger for floyd/conor, so it's expected that they sold more.. not surprising to me. Also I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing because of the fact that you're bringing in fans from all sides.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 31, 2017, 01:40:48 pm
I think this is the footage paulie released in response to connor releasing footage of knocking malignaggi out. He later on says that it was all staged and people actually fell for this footage. lol funny video. One thing I can't stand is malignaggi keep saying 'suckers' get over it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2k5d2coiU

paulie is such a joke.

look at Floyd actually HELPING Paulie try and save face ... Paulie acting as if all of that was planned etc. Floyd is literally giving Paulie a life-saver here.

Floyd is smart.. Paulie is not. I hope Dana White releases the Conor/Paulie sparring footage, would be great to see if Paulie really got clowned or not. I imagine it was "close" but in the clips I saw Paulie looked out of shape and slow.. So, if Conor schooled him in sparring, that's a major win for Conor. If Dana never releases the footage, it'll just make me suspect Paulie is the one telling the truth.

For me personally, I just hate how Paulie injected himself into this whole situation and won't go away.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 31, 2017, 02:15:16 pm
My take on the fight was far different and I went in thinking it was just a theatrical fight. I now remember the McGregor thread adarq opened showing and discussing his attention to movements, detail, and body awareness. I had forgotten all about that but will say that the fight renewed my intrigue with McGregor and I definitely came in more passive if not pessimistic about the fight.

I was actually inspired by McGregor's effort and confidence. I think his mental strength is outstanding in that he believed he could win until the very end. That along with his detailed training inspired me more than anything. If anything, the Victor Ortiz fight was truly a farce, much more than this one. I thought that was a boxer who went in for the payday and mentally just imploded or maybe just gave in not thinking he could win. To this day I still don't know what happened there.

Well, Victor Ortiz is a known head case. He can't stand the pressure. He was actually putting it on Floyd a bit - though Floyd was letting him "BLOW HIS LOAD" (the popular terminology these days lmfao). Once Ortiz got dirty, he just became too apologetic and he let his guard down when the fight was back on.. And one thing you don't do with Floyd, is get dirty with him. He's the king of retaliation. Floyd's said it hundreds of times on video, he doesn't initiate anything dirty, but if someone gets dirty, he can give it back 2x. Ortiz violated the first rule of boxing, "protect yourself at all times", and Floyd ended him. Ortiz might have been able to continue physically, but mentally he's a quitter, he's proved that a few times. That's why I was surprised Conor even made it to the 10th, i thought he'd be done by 8. I saw Conor quit against Nate in their first fight. He did redeem himself in the second fight with Nate, so that put the "quitter" mentality to sleep a little bit. One could say he quit against Floyd in the 10th, he didn't throw a punch, didn't clinch, looked woozy af, didn't protect himself - that's just begging for a stoppage. But me personally, I think he was just toast. I think Floyd rocked him good with some clean shots & Conor was very fatigued, so he was just in that hazy dream-state, bell rung, no energy, just wobbling around the ring trying to survive. So i'd agree, don't think he quit.

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McGregor just posted a recap of the fight on instagram and I just think it shows he's actually an athlete. You can tell he's been thinking about why he couldn't last 12 rounds "under stress" which is the first thing that came to mind for me.

"Just coming back around after a whirlwind couple of days. Thank you to all the fans for the support of the fight and the event! Without your support we as fighters are nothing so I thank you all! Thank you to my team of coaches and training partners! I had an amazing team and It truly was an amazing and enjoyable camp, and honestly I feel with just a little change in certain areas of the prep, we could have built the engine for 12 full rounds under stress, and got the better result on the night. Getting to 12 rounds alone in practice was always the challenge in this camp. We started slowly getting to the 12 and decreasing the stress in the rounds the closer it got to 12. I think for the time we had, 10 weeks in camp, it had to be done this way. If I began with a loaded 12 rounds under much stress I would have only hit a brick wall and lost progress as a result and potentially not made the fight. A little more time and we could have made the 12 cleanly, while under more stress, and made it thru the later rounds in the actual fight. I feel every decision we made at each given time was the correct decision, and I am proud of everyone of my team for what we done in the short time that we done it. 30 minutes was the longest I have fought in a ring or cage or anywhere. Surpassing my previous time of 25 minutes. I am happy for the experience and happy to take all these great lessons with me and implement them into my camp going forward. Another day another lesson! Congrats to Floyd on a well fought match. Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down. I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer. But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter. Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure. Here is a toast of whiskey to everyone involved in this event and everyone who enjoyed it! Thank you to you all! Onto the next one! "

great write up by him.

he definitely is analytical, introspective, etc.. he doesn't just rely on his coaches or other people to tell him what's what. He's got more of that nerd-athlete mentality, instead of raw athlete, that's for sure. Well he has a combo of both, which is very impressive. nerd-athlete + raw-athlete = beast.

I disagree completely though about him being able to last 12 rounds.. The kind of stress he needed, would be a 10 round prize fight, and then a 12 round prize fight. They couldn't "risk" the money though, so they would NEVER do that .. and thus, could never achieve 12 round preparation for this fight. Plus, if he had to prepare against pro boxers who actually fight at 154, he'd be fighting some monsters - not guys who he would outsize. Also look at how sharp/fresh Floyd was in the 10th.. If he was worried about not being able to get Conor out of there in the 11th and 12th, it would have been an absolute onslaught of vicious punches.

It's cool that he's confident he could go 12 with someone like Floyd .. I think being "dumb/naive" about things is important. Is it self belief? Is it naivety? Or both? His self belief made it much more entertaining, that's for sure. But the cold reality is that, he was going to learn the hard way. From all accounts, Floyd wanted to end him in round 10. Let's imagine that's true, that he in fact did try to bet 400k on himself for a 10 round KO, and they prevented it, and he had his friend make the bet. That adds a whole new dynamic to it. It'd mean that Floyd had to make sure that Conor didn't die in round 6, 8, 9 etc. It also meant that Floyd had to turn it up in round 10 and get a stoppage. If all of that is true, the guy coming off a 2 year lay off, massive reach disadvantage, massive weight disadvantage, controlled probably 99% of the fight & basically was pulling strings on Conor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/27/at-the-last-moment-floyd-mayweather-tried-to-bet-400000-that-hed-beat-conor-mcgregor/?utm_term=.3c7561b2096d

So IMHO, when it really comes down to it, Conor had no chance. Conor believing he had a chance & TRYING to change the outcome of the fight, is definitely respectable. Pro boxers went in there against a prime Tyson with full intentions on quitting. Obviously Floyd is no Tyson but, to go in there from MMA and fight one of the best ever in a boxing match, to me that's like fighting Tyson.

word!
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 31, 2017, 02:34:35 pm
more random interviews .. good one with mosley, but he sounds a bit weird & he's looking different (just fatter?), hope he's alright.

btw I always enjoy listening to Colin Cowherd, he's solid. The worst is Skip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZbTiOeNjs
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on August 31, 2017, 02:37:43 pm
haven't listened to it yet, listening now.. starts out talking about conor's belief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-UBecJ2OQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEyiKCxZCs
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 31, 2017, 04:48:47 pm
Wow I saw those vids too especially the first vid you posted but a different one in some way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xpGhGRBPI
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 01, 2017, 12:38:02 pm
Wow I saw those vids too especially the first vid you posted but a different one in some way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xpGhGRBPI

yup, the mosley interviews are good.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 01, 2017, 12:50:13 pm
just watched the fight again with my dad, because he's one of those people who think Conor/Floyd had an agreement not to hurt each other for the first 5 rounds - which is based off of nothing, just maybe his WWE watching.

anyway watching the fight a second time, it was still enjoyable. I've never "laughed" so much at a fight. I mean I cracked up when Conor countered Floyd, when Floyd would just casually tee off on Conor, when Conor did all kinds of crazy hammerfist stuff, when Conor hit Floyd with a good body shot & Floyd acted like he got hit to the nuts, when the ref pushed Floyd, when Conor cheap shotted Floyd after the low blow warning, and when Floyd was just walking Conor down at the end trying to end his life.

lots of laughing.. because it really was a circus, but a very enjoyable one.

I think it was round 8 where Conor dug deep and got off some great shots on Floyd. Here he was, completely dead, and he pulled some great combos/shots off and was effective. To me that is so impressive considering the state he was in.

Maybe the most impressive thing when re-watching it though, is how relaxed Floyd is. I mean it was apparent watching it live, but it's even more impressive watching it again. Floyd is just so relaxed, focused, powerful, fast, patient, etc. At no point in that fight did I see him look tired, worried, impatient, etc. That experience, composure, skill is the biggest take home point people should have from this event.

Also, Floyd basically taught alot of MMA fans about boxing punching vs MMA punching .. MMA punchers try and learn to improve their boxing etc, but even a guy with some of the best striking in MMA didn't look anywhere near as fluid/clean/powerful/relaxed/fast as Floyd, IMHO. I mean it's pretty evident from the footage. Conor landed some good shots but Floyd's shots had real sting, even if he was barely putting anything behind them. Some of Floyd's shots toward the end were just so clean and effortless, yet just cracked Conor so hard. Floyd's probably thrown 10 million more punches than Conor...

Also, Conor was wrecked at the end. LOL at people who thought he was fine. He was completely toast. When you see an early stop where the guy is fine, he gets the ref off of him real quick. Conor laid on those ropes with the ref for like 60 seconds. Smart move by him making people believe he was getting ready for his second wind for rounds 11/12 lmfao. People already talking about "would Conor win in a rematch?!!?" LFMAO.

Finally, look at how much we talked about a "hybrid circus fight"... Definitely makes sense that this broke every record, just given our discussion on it.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 01, 2017, 04:45:39 pm
just watched the fight again with my dad, because he's one of those people who think Conor/Floyd had an agreement not to hurt each other for the first 5 rounds - which is based off of nothing, just maybe his WWE watching.

anyway watching the fight a second time, it was still enjoyable. I've never "laughed" so much at a fight. I mean I cracked up when Conor countered Floyd, when Floyd would just casually tee off on Conor, when Conor did all kinds of crazy hammerfist stuff, when Conor hit Floyd with a good body shot & Floyd acted like he got hit to the nuts, when the ref pushed Floyd, when Conor cheap shotted Floyd after the low blow warning, and when Floyd was just walking Conor down at the end trying to end his life.

lots of laughing.. because it really was a circus, but a very enjoyable one.

I think it was round 8 where Conor dug deep and got off some great shots on Floyd. Here he was, completely dead, and he pulled some great combos/shots off and was effective. To me that is so impressive considering the state he was in.

Maybe the most impressive thing when re-watching it though, is how relaxed Floyd is. I mean it was apparent watching it live, but it's even more impressive watching it again. Floyd is just so relaxed, focused, powerful, fast, patient, etc. At no point in that fight did I see him look tired, worried, impatient, etc. That experience, composure, skill is the biggest take home point people should have from this event.

Also, Floyd basically taught alot of MMA fans about boxing punching vs MMA punching .. MMA punchers try and learn to improve their boxing etc, but even a guy with some of the best striking in MMA didn't look anywhere near as fluid/clean/powerful/relaxed/fast as Floyd, IMHO. I mean it's pretty evident from the footage. Conor landed some good shots but Floyd's shots had real sting, even if he was barely putting anything behind them. Some of Floyd's shots toward the end were just so clean and effortless, yet just cracked Conor so hard. Floyd's probably thrown 10 million more punches than Conor...

Also, Conor was wrecked at the end. LOL at people who thought he was fine. He was completely toast. When you see an early stop where the guy is fine, he gets the ref off of him real quick. Conor laid on those ropes with the ref for like 60 seconds. Smart move by him making people believe he was getting ready for his second wind for rounds 11/12 lmfao. People already talking about "would Conor win in a rematch?!!?" LFMAO.

Finally, look at how much we talked about a "hybrid circus fight"... Definitely makes sense that this broke every record, just given our discussion on it.

Exactly about the last point. This ppv defines floyd as boxer. People love floyd and watch his fights but alot of people hate him and therefore tune into see someone hopefully defeat him as for this ppv it was soo bad it was actually gaining attention regardless if it was bad or not just the fact that the people were talking about like in this thread, we talked about how bad this fight was, what each said what ridiculous statement each made. So ye it makes sense how it broke records and I understand now based on your other reply that this is actually good for boxing because you are getting more viewers. A big problem in a lot of sports is when they involve politics and make it more business than entertaining the fans.

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when Conor hit Floyd with a good body shot & Floyd acted like he got hit to the nuts

I have to disagree with the above statement. If you remember the image I posted, which I will post below. but ofc it wasn't intentionally but it definitely looks half on the belt and half below.

(http://i.imgur.com/1GLKK9S.jpg)

But it is entertaining to watch, would have loved to see the floyd of old add more slickness and accuracy. But without that it was still entertaining. But conor had good head movement making floyd miss, which ofc the floyd of old would have hit it. but ye.

OMG plz no rematch lol.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 01, 2017, 06:46:13 pm
just watched the fight again with my dad, because he's one of those people who think Conor/Floyd had an agreement not to hurt each other for the first 5 rounds - which is based off of nothing, just maybe his WWE watching.

anyway watching the fight a second time, it was still enjoyable. I've never "laughed" so much at a fight. I mean I cracked up when Conor countered Floyd, when Floyd would just casually tee off on Conor, when Conor did all kinds of crazy hammerfist stuff, when Conor hit Floyd with a good body shot & Floyd acted like he got hit to the nuts, when the ref pushed Floyd, when Conor cheap shotted Floyd after the low blow warning, and when Floyd was just walking Conor down at the end trying to end his life.

lots of laughing.. because it really was a circus, but a very enjoyable one.

I think it was round 8 where Conor dug deep and got off some great shots on Floyd. Here he was, completely dead, and he pulled some great combos/shots off and was effective. To me that is so impressive considering the state he was in.

Maybe the most impressive thing when re-watching it though, is how relaxed Floyd is. I mean it was apparent watching it live, but it's even more impressive watching it again. Floyd is just so relaxed, focused, powerful, fast, patient, etc. At no point in that fight did I see him look tired, worried, impatient, etc. That experience, composure, skill is the biggest take home point people should have from this event.

Also, Floyd basically taught alot of MMA fans about boxing punching vs MMA punching .. MMA punchers try and learn to improve their boxing etc, but even a guy with some of the best striking in MMA didn't look anywhere near as fluid/clean/powerful/relaxed/fast as Floyd, IMHO. I mean it's pretty evident from the footage. Conor landed some good shots but Floyd's shots had real sting, even if he was barely putting anything behind them. Some of Floyd's shots toward the end were just so clean and effortless, yet just cracked Conor so hard. Floyd's probably thrown 10 million more punches than Conor...

Also, Conor was wrecked at the end. LOL at people who thought he was fine. He was completely toast. When you see an early stop where the guy is fine, he gets the ref off of him real quick. Conor laid on those ropes with the ref for like 60 seconds. Smart move by him making people believe he was getting ready for his second wind for rounds 11/12 lmfao. People already talking about "would Conor win in a rematch?!!?" LFMAO.

Finally, look at how much we talked about a "hybrid circus fight"... Definitely makes sense that this broke every record, just given our discussion on it.

Exactly about the last point. This ppv defines floyd as boxer. People love floyd and watch his fights but alot of people hate him and therefore tune into see someone hopefully defeat him as for this ppv it was soo bad it was actually gaining attention regardless if it was bad or not just the fact that the people were talking about like in this thread, we talked about how bad this fight was, what each said what ridiculous statement each made. So ye it makes sense how it broke records and I understand now based on your other reply that this is actually good for boxing because you are getting more viewers. A big problem in a lot of sports is when they involve politics and make it more business than entertaining the fans.

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when Conor hit Floyd with a good body shot & Floyd acted like he got hit to the nuts

I have to disagree with the above statement. If you remember the image I posted, which I will post below. but ofc it wasn't intentionally but it definitely looks half on the belt and half below.

(http://i.imgur.com/1GLKK9S.jpg)

ya that is def a bit low .. Floyd probably tried to play it up a bit to recover, that was a good punch.

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But it is entertaining to watch, would have loved to see the floyd of old add more slickness and accuracy. But without that it was still entertaining. But conor had good head movement making floyd miss, which ofc the floyd of old would have hit it. but ye.

OMG plz no rematch lol.

yeah please no rematch. I imagine there could be several rematches.. Conor is great at selling himself and could give people hope each time. Would be funny if they end up having like 5 fights, all billion+. Everyone paying because "ok this time he's got it". lmao.

pc
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 01, 2017, 11:24:46 pm
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20523028/why-praising-conor-mcgregor-losing-floyd-mayweather?sf110923121=1

lots of yapping still going on. now people are feuding about our perception of the fight etc.

this fight will live on for eternity, debated for centuries.. lulz
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 02, 2017, 02:09:09 pm
As we know connor fatigued quite quick and because of that he was losing and lost in round and one of the main reasons he gassed out, which many boxers do, but can handle it better than mcgregor ofc cos they are boxers is floyd's precise body shots, even though the old mayweather would have done so much more body shots and those pot shots to the body, they look weak but do take effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6EbcLC1GdE

https://twitter.com/realboxingguru/status/903791056151502848
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 02, 2017, 02:55:42 pm
As we know connor fatigued quite quick and because of that he was losing and lost in round and one of the main reasons he gassed out, which many boxers do, but can handle it better than mcgregor ofc cos they are boxers is floyd's precise body shots, even though the old mayweather would have done so much more body shots and those pot shots to the body, they look weak but do take effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6EbcLC1GdE

https://twitter.com/realboxingguru/status/903791056151502848

last one in the vid is very effective, cause he was closer, it was a counter, and conor looked mushy/wasn't able to defend it at all really, solid shit.

one at 0:06 is similar. one at 0:26 is brutal but a little low. several low shots in the vid, hah.



how often do you see straight rights to the body like that in boxing? not very often.. Floyd also has a nasty lead right, again a rare punch in boxing.

this is a great video to see Floyd dissect a boxer with straight rights to the body:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttZ4guzAaI

K/O body shot vs Mitchell is similar to the one that hits Conor, but in a way better spot.. similar to the one @ 00:06 in the Conor vid but more behind it.



man Floyd is such a sniper.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 03, 2017, 06:46:02 am
Ref stopped the fight because he saws of minor signs of traumatic brain injury/ concussion.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/mma-ufc/former-ringside-doctor-ref-stopped-mayweather-vs-mcgregor-due-to-%E2%80%98signs-of-traumatic-brain-injury%E2%80%99/ar-AAraoEb?li=BBoPWjQt
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 03, 2017, 10:39:51 am
Ref stopped the fight because he saws of minor signs of traumatic brain injury/ concussion.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/mma-ufc/former-ringside-doctor-ref-stopped-mayweather-vs-mcgregor-due-to-%E2%80%98signs-of-traumatic-brain-injury%E2%80%99/ar-AAraoEb?li=BBoPWjQt

nice. ya to me he looked very tired AND hurt. bad combo.
Title: Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
Post by: adarqui on September 09, 2017, 11:38:24 am
hah gr8 shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgqmkFdrcL0