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Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 09:29:17 am »
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 09:42:10 am »
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What happens on Aug 26?

Mayweather v McGregor

lol i'm not looking forward to that at all, mcgregor is going to get slaughtered.... no fun when u know exactly whats going to happen....

FWIW I think Mayweather wins but...

At worst McGregor has a punchers chance. He carries concrete in his hands and is a unique mover. He will come in bigger than Floyd with reach to boot and if Floyd is as defensive as he would normally be then McGregor has so much more freedom to move around. I think it's going to be a really interesting fight.

I disagree. McGregor has a puncher's chance in the same way a meteor has a chance of falling on the ring and killing Floyd :D

Floyd will be able to do whatever he wants to Conor.. The question is really: will he string it out to give the fans "more action" and play with him to make it a longer fight? I imagine he will.

Personally, i'd like to see him end Conor in round 1 and just be done with it..

If they were fighting in MMA, i'd say Conor would destroy Floyd, absolutely no chance, not even a puncher's chance. These sports are just way too different.

Conor has never seen anything like Floyd's speed/reflexes/stamina/movement in a ring. And he can't slow it down by tackling Floyd to take it to the ground or kicking his legs etc. He's just a sitting duck.

As for Conor having concrete hands, sure maybe in MMA.. but I imagine not at all in boxing. Boxers fight with bigger gloves & have better chins, they are all about taking head punishment. Lots of these MMA fighters seem to have glass chins - could be due to the gloves but, I imagine it has more to do with less hardening of themselves to proper head trauma while growing up. They probably spent more time wrestling, doing BJJ, doing more weak sparring than the stuff you see in these brutal boxing gyms around the world etc. Boxer's usually have hundreds of amateur fights, and spar hard af in some really grimy gyms while they are growing up.

dno.. i'd be shocked if Conor lands anything impressive.. or even if he looks impressive at all. He'll have maybe 1 round (the first) where he has an ounce of confidence and will look sharp .. but after that, he's going to be Floyd's play toy.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 09:44:38 am »
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If you want to see Floyd vs Conor early, this is how it'll probably look:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA</a>

^^ The Matrix.

and Gatti was a really good (not elite) boxer with a chin of granite & decent hand speed.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 10:07:49 am »
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Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Even if mayweather lets mcgregor hit him or show off his defence, it will still suck, just look at the andre berto fight, a disaster waiting to happen, mayweather was toying with him on the ropes and even with that the fight still sucked.

EDIT: Then you see these type of BS:

http://www.boxingscene.com/white-mayweather-mcgregor-bigger-mayweather-pacquiao--117545

as if fight fans will buy this fight thinking its going to be better than may vs pac, which was the only most wanted fight both boxers, both #1.
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“Yes, of course,” Ellerbe said. “Why not? You’ve gotta understand, obviously with Mayweather-Pacquiao, and Stephen can attest to this, that was a fight that the fans had been talking about for years. There’s not one place that I go to, that Floyd goes to, that anybody affiliated or associated with Floyd Mayweather [goes to], that [we don’t get] asked the question, ‘Floyd, are you gonna fight Conor McGregor?’ This is a very, very hot fight and this is a fight that the fans want. It’s gonna be a tremendous event. The fans wanted this fight."

Even the promo to this fight is bs especially when it comes from people who fail at hyping it up. A quote from dana white:
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'Floyd Mayweather is 40 years old, he's always had problems with southpaws. Conor McGregor is 27 and he is a southpaw. Whenever Conor hits people, they fall.

The more I see of this the more I hate this fight.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 12:59:55 pm »
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I bought pretty much every Mayweather PPV fight.. can't think of one I didn't pay for. I definitely WILL NOT be ordering that PPV.

I mean, if we look at it just from a circus perspective, it's kind of fun.. But from a fight fan purist perspective, it's complete garbage.

It's kind of like Ali vs Hulk Hogan .. nothing wrong with it.. It's just some circus/entertainment stuff. This is slightly different in that it'll be a REAL FIGHT, but still, it's mostly a circus event.

So i'll just continue to look at it from the circus perspective & appreciate that for what it is.

The idea of Floyd breaking Marciano's record with a fight like this, instead of fighting GGG, is very annoying though. Hard to not let that annoy you if you're a "fight fan". :/
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 05:03:23 pm »
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eek

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w</a>

(also, why the F did they put that sh*t music in the video)



love this interview with Heerden:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GHTKvtGMQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GHTKvtGMQ</a>

LMAO.

Heerden: "Conor is good. He'd beat some pros at 147"
Interview: "Like who? How about <lists like 12 names>"

Every response from Heerden was "no" with a laugh.. lmao.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 07:31:32 pm »
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Unless Floyd has been smoking pot, drinking lean, and shooting up heroin all this time up until the fight.... mcgregor has no chance.....

I bet half of the people on adarq.org could stand a good chance vs mcgregor in a boxing match if we trained for it...... cause we all have sick core/back and leg strength from all the squats anyway....

and im sure floyd has been training too.... if pac man couldn't do shit to floyd.... what is mcgregor going to do? kick him in the nuts?

fight would be awesome if it was in the octagon....

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 08:33:33 pm »
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If you want to see Floyd vs Conor early, this is how it'll probably look:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqerSSt07JA</a>

^^ The Matrix.

and Gatti was a really good (not elite) boxer with a chin of granite & decent hand speed.

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C'mon man Gatti thought the ref was stepping in and Floyd hit him with his hands down.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 08:40:03 pm »
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Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.

Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is. 
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2017, 10:15:48 pm »
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Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.

it's not necessarily less physically demanding, it's just WAY different.. I mean it's like elite 400m guys vs 800m guys. And in terms of speed, it's like a world class tennis player vs a world class ping pong player. I'm not saying boxing or mma are one or the other, in those examples I gave.. I'm just saying that elites in each sport, are going to have a serious problem transitioning into each other's sport, even if they are more similar than not.

If PBF had to grapple on the ground, he'd gas easy. Conor isn't a pure boxer, I mean he gassed against Nate Diaz IIRC. He's going to be in there, for his first ever professional boxing match against one of the greatest boxer's of all time, who is presumably still in amazing shape. Floyd is dedicated beyond belief, probably still dedicated in retirement too.

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Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is.

Definitely, 5x5 is serious..

He's fought 0 rounds in a pro boxing match though, against a guy who has never gassed in his entire career, and is known for sparring non-stop without rest breaks while they throw fresh sparring partners (pro boxers) in there with him.



Everyone seems to forget that Conor got outboxed (in the 2nd round) by slow as hell - but good boxer, Nate Diaz..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STTttVqXjs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STTttVqXjs</a>

I mean he got caught several times, rocked, then choked out. Nate Diaz is slow af... but he's also tough af with decent boxing.



FWIW, Anderson Silva actually has a professional boxing record, he's 1-1 with 1 KO loss.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2017, 10:20:38 pm »
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Unless Floyd has been smoking pot, drinking lean, and shooting up heroin all this time up until the fight.... mcgregor has no chance.....

I bet half of the people on adarq.org could stand a good chance vs mcgregor in a boxing match if we trained for it...... cause we all have sick core/back and leg strength from all the squats anyway....

absolutely not, LMFAO.

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and im sure floyd has been training too.... if pac man couldn't do shit to floyd.... what is mcgregor going to do? kick him in the nuts?

fight would be awesome if it was in the octagon....

that would be a decent "equalizer".. boxing in an octagon is very difficult. I did it a few times, when I used to box. I was used to the ring, and sparred some mma guys in the octagon instead of the ring. Guys I had no problem with in a ring, had me wrecked up against the cage. You forget it's a cage and just get owned because there's nowhere to go. With ropes, you can evade into the ropes, spring back for hard counters, etc.. Not in an octagon.

That's a good idea.. too bad they won't do that.

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2017, 10:25:20 pm »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2017, 10:47:04 pm »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

lol i guess fighting analysis is not my expertise, i should stick with bball..... i know this mma guy at my gym and he never does heavy squats, he could barely do 135 full squat..... that is why i thought if some of the stronger oly lifters switched to boxing training, might do pretty well.....

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2017, 10:57:25 pm »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2017, 11:03:59 pm »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

lol i guess fighting analysis is not my expertise, i should stick with bball..... i know this mma guy at my gym and he never does heavy squats, he could barely do 135 full squat..... that is why i thought if some of the stronger oly lifters switched to boxing training, might do pretty well.....

Lifting has nothing to do with fighting though. An MMA fighter with weak lifts could pull you into a clinch and land a knee or elbow on your chin and you're gone.

Oly lifters trying to transition to boxing doesn't sound like a good idea either, unless you're talking at like, 5-6 years old, not adults.

Think of boxing like this: it's like being able to dribble a basketball like Kyrie. Now go try and teach an oly lifter how to dribble a basketball like Kyrie, without defense. Then, when you finally get them to that level, now put some collegiate or pro defense on them. I imagine you're probably thinking, "impossible".. Same with fight sports - for the most part. It's very rare that you get people who didn't start as kids, or young teens. Extremely rare to see people transition/take it on as adults/20's+.

Deontay Wilder is one example.. Took up boxing at ~18-20 or so? Became heavy weight champ.. Has some insane power. Decent boxer.. But he's going to have to fight some serious names soon, and he'll probably get owned.

ie, Anthony Joshua will probably destroy him.