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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2017, 11:59:46 pm »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2017, 12:14:23 am »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2017, 12:22:29 am »
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Lol, but a random would probably fair much better in regular boxing than kick boxing, did you know how to kick?

Yeah I was a pretty good kicker but not a great boxer. Still not a great boxer.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2017, 12:28:23 am »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2017, 12:29:47 am »
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@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2017, 01:45:42 am »
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Is this really a discussion? PBF is going to point his ass TO DEATH. Conors stand up/striking is VERY basic compared to a world class boxer and all this bs hes spewing about hitting harder than anyone Floyds fought? Bahahaha. No. Im sure he thinks he hits hard af but what adarq said above is key...

Technique>*.

Conor won't go down easy but he's in for  a world of surprises the first time Floyd catches him with a clean counter. When youve thrown MILLIONS of punches with great technique... you hit hard. He doesnt hit hard as a BOXER but compared to an MMA fighter? Smh.

Ive got some friends who are pretty decent MMA guys and they can hit but its NOTHING compared to a couple boxing buddies. I got stung clean AF from a right cross sparring a boxing friend in college and it slowed me way more than any shot ive taken messing around with my mma friends. And he was 146lbs vs my 170. Long, lanky and quick as shit lol!

Correction: my best friends dad is like a 30yr wing chun expert... I sparred him once. I laughed at my buddy when he said id never see it coming (Ive dabbled with some boxing and mma stuff, every guy should lol, self defense and a great ego check).... I saw the first one, parried, saw a glimpse of the left and never saw the 2nd right hand. At all. Just went down on 1 knee trying to decide what happened and if i should get up. :)
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2017, 09:33:15 am »
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Is this really a discussion?

The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

It does look like we've had fun discussing some of it though.



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PBF is going to point his ass TO DEATH.

After watching Nate Diaz basically KO him, I think PBF could easily KO him..



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Conors stand up/striking is VERY basic compared to a world class boxer and all this bs hes spewing about hitting harder than anyone Floyds fought? Bahahaha. No. Im sure he thinks he hits hard af but what adarq said above is key...

Technique>*.

Conor won't go down easy but he's in for  a world of surprises the first time Floyd catches him with a clean counter. When youve thrown MILLIONS of punches with great technique... you hit hard. He doesnt hit hard as a BOXER but compared to an MMA fighter? Smh.

yup.

Again, World Class Boxing ability in Professional MMA might not even translate to mediocre in Professional Boxing. That's what most people are missing. You could be the slickest, more deadly boxer-striker in MMA, KO'n everyone with ease, and probably have no chance vs mediocre professional boxers. Anderson Silva is a great example... A magician in MMA with a professional boxing record of 1-1 with 1 KO Loss. Sure, maybe he improved and could have beaten some pro boxers when he was in his prime in MMA, but I seriously doubt it. He exploited MMA's weak boxing, and was able to defend himself on the ground with great BJJ.. So he was lethal in MMA because of sub-par boxing ability. At the elite level, you put him in there with any light heavyweight pro boxer and he'd get demolished. You put any light heavyweight pro boxer in there with him in MMA, and pro boxer gets demolished.



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Ive got some friends who are pretty decent MMA guys and they can hit but its NOTHING compared to a couple boxing buddies. I got stung clean AF from a right cross sparring a boxing friend in college and it slowed me way more than any shot ive taken messing around with my mma friends. And he was 146lbs vs my 170. Long, lanky and quick as shit lol!

Correction: my best friends dad is like a 30yr wing chun expert... I sparred him once. I laughed at my buddy when he said id never see it coming (Ive dabbled with some boxing and mma stuff, every guy should lol, self defense and a great ego check).... I saw the first one, parried, saw a glimpse of the left and never saw the 2nd right hand. At all. Just went down on 1 knee trying to decide what happened and if i should get up. :)

lmao nice!

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2017, 09:44:34 am »
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lmfao:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY</a>

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2017, 08:31:23 am »
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Me and some buddies used to have a fight club in basement and the rules were all fucked up...... we were allowed to hit someone on the ground......

and this one dude did a hook with all his might when i was trying to get up and shook my brain so bad.... probably knocked 3 iq points out of me in the long run..... i think that is the kind of hit mcgregor will face on floyds counter punch right to the temple

uh.. lmao. not smart. the irony of not doing something smart, then physiologically killing brain cells. :ninja:

Also .. your handle "fast don't lie" is appropriate here. Mayweather is fast, both offensively and defensively.. 100x faster than Conor on both fronts. Arguably faster than Pacquiao offensively, definitely defensively. Faster than Zab Judah defensively, but not offensively.

This McGregor hype is hilarious. Who knows though, 2016-2017 are the years of upsets, watch Conor will KO Floyd and become President of Ireland. :trollface:

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2017, 07:06:10 pm »
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The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2017, 07:06:20 pm »
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conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI</a>

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2017, 07:19:10 pm »
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The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.

Maybe Nate Diaz would be a better choice, since he outboxed CM & basically KO'd him in their first fight ...  :trollface:

Honestly though, Nate & Nick Diaz would probably fare better against most boxers than CM even though they are way slower, IMHO.. Nick Diaz for example, is more of a pure boxer with superb condition & a granite chin, he actually has one pro boxing win also (1-0).

As slick as CM is in the Octagon, in boxing, if you can't get a guy out early with that slickness & you're known for fading, a good boxer will suck you into the middle/later rounds and when you're drowning, will try and destroy you. CM fits that mold IMHO.. Very impressive, fast, slick in the first few rounds - but when he faced Nate Diaz who is a slow, non stop, granite chin boxer, he got worn down in literally one round. By the second round he was getting caught easy, which resulted in him getting rocked & choked out.

I'd expect the Nate/Nick prototype to do better than most MMA fighters in pro boxing.. Not at all against elites, but against lesser opposition. Good technique (great jabs, throw punches while defending simultaneously, good movement), granite chins, superb conditioning, can withstand tons of punishment, and just keep coming.. They'd be the kind of guys you'd put up & comer boxers up against early on, to give the fans an exciting fight.

pC!

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2017, 07:24:06 pm »
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conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI</a>

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.


Why? Because MOST MMA guys realize how LETHAL a boxer is comparatively. They know the best option is gnp or submission.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2017, 07:32:29 pm »
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Nate:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruCNdNGIDWI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruCNdNGIDWI</a>

lmfao.. those Diaz bros are just so rugged. Disrespectful (not good) and rugged. They also seem partially brain dead.

Not nearly as impressive as CM offensively.. but just traditional boxing skills (jab-1, jab/straight-1/2, jab/straight/hook-1/2/3), being tough as nails, and never getting tired .. go a long way in a boxing match. He gets off balance a bit, he's goofy, but he has some serious length on those shots.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHhMhIEl3Io" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHhMhIEl3Io</a>

Khan says Nate did great against Fonfara (pro boxer) in sparring. Would be interesting to see video of it.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2017, 07:33:42 pm »
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conor sparring match... was that a joke or was he trying to connect, his arm look its made of rubber and it was slow motion......

boxers shouldn't be allowed to do mma cuz they could kill someone with that thin glove....

pro boxers usually get taken down & submitted in MMA.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI</a>

i imagine people put shit music on videos to avoid being automatically flagged.


Why? Because MOST MMA guys realize how LETHAL a boxer is comparatively. They know the best option is gnp or submission.

yup

that's why it's funny even contemplating the idea of an elite MMA fighter trying to stand with an elite boxer.. they wouldn't even do it in the octagon if it was an MMA fight.. hah.