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Title: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: adarqui on September 11, 2013, 07:32:51 pm
i think floyd is going to put on a clinic.. canelo is too slow.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-floyd-mayweather-spends-his-money-2013-9?op=1
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: AlexV on September 11, 2013, 08:48:46 pm
Hoping for Canelo (Im a white mexican-american too)  Think Mayweather will win though.

The Mathysse-Garcia fight looks great too. 
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: AGC on September 11, 2013, 11:06:30 pm
From that article:

"He has two fleets of luxury cars (including a $US290,000 Bentley). All his cars at his Miami house are white, and the cars at his Vegas house are black."

"He owns a G5 private jet, but doesn't let his full entourage ride on it. His bodyguards travel on a separate jet because Floyd is afraid of having two much weight in the cabin."

 :wowthatwasnutswtf:   :wowthatwasnutswtf:   :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: LBSS on September 12, 2013, 10:23:50 am
mayweather. i know basically nothing about boxing but the fact that mayweather has just two more fights than alvarez despite being 13 years older says to me that he's spent most of his career picking and choosing huge fights, and alvarez has fought a lot of subpar competition in quick succession. experience on big stage vs. elite boxers (even if never pacquiao) > experience on small stage vs. sub-elite boxers.

happy to be wrong and of course my analysis is worth approximately -$0.02.

gotta say, i'll be pulling for money. he's hilarious.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 12, 2013, 04:13:53 pm
I feel money mayweather has gathered alot of tactics, which he uses to win as well as reflexes to get the job done, i have seen canelo perform, he took time to get used to austin trout, even though he made work of lopez.

I have seen mayweather use tactics such as holding after punching, pushing, elbow but he is very slick, so i think it will be a slow 12 round fight, unlessw canelo dictates the pace doesn't rush and uses his left hook effectively without letting his guard down he could do well.

but i just think mayweather will be too smart for him.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: adarqui on September 14, 2013, 09:02:48 pm
man im so pumped

got this PPV loaded & cant wait to watch the fights.

i have mattyse by KO and floyd by decision (like usual).

I think mattyse is going to be able to catch garcia.. and i dont think garcia has ever had his chin tested against anyone with mattyse's power.

floyd is just going to clown canelo i think... canelo is WAY too slow to be able to get anything off.. only chance he has is when floyd gets cocky on the ropes.



In one of the all access episodes, canelo's camp says his personal best in the 800m is 3:30... EEK :f


FLOYD.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: adarqui on September 14, 2013, 09:04:31 pm
mayweather. i know basically nothing about boxing but the fact that mayweather has just two more fights than alvarez despite being 13 years older says to me that he's spent most of his career picking and choosing huge fights, and alvarez has fought a lot of subpar competition in quick succession. experience on big stage vs. elite boxers (even if never pacquiao) > experience on small stage vs. sub-elite boxers.

happy to be wrong and of course my analysis is worth approximately -$0.02.

gotta say, i'll be pulling for money. he's hilarious.


ya, pbf has handpicked a ton of opponents.. waited until they "got old" and out of their prime.

However, shotime is making him step up against younger talent, which is exactly what his career needed... and the thing is, i think that's just going to get floyd to step his game up to that next level.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: ChrisM on September 14, 2013, 10:24:35 pm
Money Mayweather by decision, hes too fast and too good.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: adarqui on September 15, 2013, 03:00:00 am
mayweather is a freak.

watching him in slow motion is pornography.



too bad mattysee's eye got wrecked.. fight changed immediately.. but danny garcia, man, such crisp fast punches.. brutal combos.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: Joe on September 15, 2013, 07:13:34 am
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Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: Raptor on September 16, 2013, 05:25:47 am
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3 clowns. At least Gayweather is good at what he's doing. The other two....
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 16, 2013, 07:25:17 am
it was a good fight, the mayweather fight was a bit boring maybe because of saul less than exciting fight.

Danny garcia vs matthysse.
wow, that was a good fight at the beginning, garcia definitely proved himself, by showing his strong chin and staying in the pocket especially after getting hit he stays, man what a warrior until matthysse bad eyes shutting garcia just became more confident and therefore harder for matthysse, but i think he only looked good against peterson, but since it was his first championship match, he just is not at the level as a championship contender, a lot of power punches garcia took them without much damage, man garcia has upped his game and shown another strength of his strong chin respect to him.

Mayweather vs canelo

what can i say about this, except mayweather as always using the skills and tactics to get the victory in a superb way.
mayweather is soo good at adapting, which he tries to identify certain weak points which he can expose and he found it in the early rounds, he found the jab step to the face a lot succesfull canelo just could not defend just like the round the glove to hit the head for cotto, he did step jab right to canelo's face, man he is good, also to the body, that was his key move to victory as well as his experience in dirty tactics without the referee and canelo being new to this scale he replied with dirty but not discrete the referee couldn't see.

i am dissapointed in how canelo performed, he had good speed and power in his punches but because he is a heavy fighter he didn't have the foot speed and agility that's why he was slow in trying to corner mayweather, mayweather was active in bouncing to avoid being cornered and sometimes i felt that mayweather let himself be cornered or placed against the ropes to give the fans excitement but it just weren't effective, especially the powerful body shots were not even a little bit to worry mayweather, he is tough, i think the weight didn't really would have affected him, i think even at weight of 154+ he still wouldn't have been able to catch mayweahter, when i see mayweather fight he always is specialised in one thing while making other aspects secondary, i.e. robert guerrero his main aim was defence, so superb as well as making the secondary attack which was also good, in this one he was all about movement, agile, quick and speed, not so much defence, which was good aswell.

so it was canelo's performance, which resulted in the fight being one sides, at the start i was excited but then all the way through he didn't produce much, i guess those rib injuring shoulder dislocating punishment he laid to his sparring partners, were not powerful enough against mayweathers body, he rarely got mayweather's head, which mayweather is excellent in keeping out of harms way, this was good as he had his uncle and father train him so i can tell training went well.

I had a feeling canelo would not perform that well, because he didn't perform extremely well against trout, only impressive fight was against josesito who comes forward unlike mayweather. i was laughing at canelo being cautios of every attempt of respect mayweahter tried to give him like touch gloves for low blow, he didn't want to fall for stuff like that which left them open like ortiz, mosley. lol

so this made me think, that the blue print dela hoya gave canelo was outdated, i don't know why they even looked at the cotto match, he was coming towards cotto and giving fans what they wanted and said he improved on that, he should have watched his most recent fights, but still he should have been ready for the foot speed in terms of movement, but i think they were dependant on one style of game plan that they didn't have a gameplan when the original gameplan didn't work out.

i hope his next fight will be against someone who is quick in terms of punches as well as quick in terms of movement, speed in footwork as well as power full punches and the only person i can think of is manny pacquiao or someone less powerfull but has the speed like amir khan.

but an exciting fight nevertheless especially garica and matthyse showing another side of garcia i didn't know existed and canelo vs mayweahter showing mayweather as always being able to find one move to utilize to help win the fight with the aid of secondary moves like combo's to keep the opponent from preventing his main move from being carried out to the end.

 :headbang:
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: Mikey on September 16, 2013, 08:12:00 am
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3 clowns. At least Gayweather is good at what he's doing. The other two....

Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne look like groupies!
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: adarqui on September 17, 2013, 10:14:13 am
garcia / mattyssee 2 !

agreed upon.
Title: Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 17, 2013, 12:17:58 pm
garcia / mattyssee 2 !

agreed upon.

serious! they agreed on it so soon.
i don't expect much difference expect matthysse might be trying to power punch instead of box his way through as he felt his power and didn't think much of it.

stephen espinoza said he would like the fight amir khan vs mayweather as mayweather as a 6 fight contract with showtime and mayweather said he would do it, don't want garcia vs mayweather wouldn't be good as its not about power to defeat mayweather its speed.

and garcia doesn't have that, he is has a solid foundation boxing and is tough.