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Title: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 05, 2017, 10:55:14 pm
12/9

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 :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 05, 2017, 10:55:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6M6DHgFk3w
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 05, 2017, 10:56:28 pm
I got Rigo in 12 .. but i'm not confident about it.

rigo in 12 is a risky pick because he's just not as active as Loma .. but i'm basing my pick on him shutting Loma down. His counter punching & defense should slow Loma down for the first time in his career.. based on that, I pick Rigo.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: seifullaah73 on December 06, 2017, 12:23:23 pm
Rigondeaux is very good and calculated, while you have lomachenko who is dynamic throwing the combos. Very interesting fight.

One thing that makes me doubt rigondeaux is will he able to carry his strength and power to the new weight. Rigondeaux is moving up a weight to fight loma so wouldn't reduce his chances. I also love lomachenko besides the circus acts from time to time.

I pick lomachenko UD12 cos he can go in and out. But it's hard to pick it's literally #1 vs #2
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 06, 2017, 03:31:19 pm
Rigondeaux is very good and calculated, while you have lomachenko who is dynamic throwing the combos. Very interesting fight.

One thing that makes me doubt rigondeaux is will he able to carry his strength and power to the new weight. Rigondeaux is moving up a weight to fight loma so wouldn't reduce his chances. I also love lomachenko besides the circus acts from time to time.

I pick lomachenko UD12 cos he can go in and out. But it's hard to pick it's literally #1 vs #2

yup the weight aspect of it definitely has me skeptical for Rigo, but I think his style is one in which weight advantages aren't so much of an advantage, since he's such an incredible defender + counter puncher.

Deep down I also want to see Loma "frozen". I want to see how he responds when he gets frozen, like how Floyd freezes everyone who fights him, I think Rigo can do something similar to Loma. It's at that point where Loma's weight advantage can definitely help though, just like how Maidana's weight advantage in the first fight helped him a ton vs Floyd, but Maidana is a pure slugger so I think that actually helps in making a fight very dirty and giving yourself more of a chance on the cards.

The big test to me, is to see how Loma reacts to being popped with laser sharp counters and also not being able to hit Rigo when he normally connects with his opponents. If Loma can dispose of Rigo, i'll be incredibly impressed. One thing I know though, is Loma gets frustrated when his opponent "hides" from him. Rigo is going to hide, and attack, repeat for 12. So will Loma's frustrations manifest again in a fight like this? I definitely think so.. and I think that'll end up hurting him.

word!!!

can't wait!
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: seifullaah73 on December 06, 2017, 06:29:06 pm
Rigondeaux hitting the mitts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFHGXNyE8_8

Look at the sharp laser concentration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbp6jVFfNM

Lomachenko - don't see much hitting the mitts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRvaY4_OsgI

Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 07, 2017, 12:12:09 am
thanks for the vids! man rigo is looking SHARP. damn................................................
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 07, 2017, 11:46:43 am
good quote from my boxer friend:

11:42 < cubanpaw> rigo wont beat loma even if he beats loma unfortunately

some truth to that perhaps.. Loma is the money man. Rigo needs to beat Loma decisively.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 08, 2017, 02:35:50 pm
Rigo v Loma stare down was epic. That's how you do a stare down, no talking/yapping/smiling, just surgical.

Rigo looks pretty thick.. everyone keeps talking about his weight but, he always looks massive at his weight.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 08, 2017, 02:40:31 pm
https://theundefeated.com/features/boxer-guillermo-rigondeaux-on-cuba-vasyl-lomachenko-and-boring-label/

Quote
I’m not out there to waste energy. I’m out there to punch you in the face. That way it hurts every time.”

Quote
“I also think the biggest issue we have as Latinos in boxing is that we talk poorly about each other. American-born fighters may put on the show in the prefight, but there is a real respect there. American-born fighters have always been very respectful and even supportive of me. The Latino fighters who aren’t Cuban? They’re like, ‘Oh, that guy can go to hell.’ The Mexican fighters hate the Cuban fighters. They keep coming at you in the ring to show how brave they are. You know, Mexican-style. That’s why I’ve knocked all their heads off.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 12:34:59 pm
the stare down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtxctSVMHo

btw this fight is on ESPN (tonight) if any1 is wondering.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 12:39:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FYsvY5IQ_U
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 12:41:19 pm
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/ywnpnj/tactical-guide-to-vasyl-lomachenko-vs-guillermo-rigondeaux?utm_vicesportstwitter
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 12:43:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Jf7cU8A.gif)

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/FlamboyantMisguidedErin

nasty.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: seifullaah73 on December 09, 2017, 01:18:44 pm
Damn nice shot.

I can't watch it on TV as it's on american channel espn. So will have to watch it another way. Sky Sports will only be showing salido vs roman fight.  :uhhhfacepalm:
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 05:05:42 pm
Damn nice shot.

I can't watch it on TV as it's on american channel espn. So will have to watch it another way. Sky Sports will only be showing salido vs roman fight.  :uhhhfacepalm:

ah damn :/
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: adarqui on December 09, 2017, 11:39:04 pm
Rigo quit. Unreal.

Supposed hand injury, doubt it. He was getting owned at the end.

I love how Loma hits Rigo after the bell, nothing. Very next round, Rigo holds, point deduction. Somewhat of a weird fight. Loma spazzing out during those clinches was odd, definitely rattled Rigo though. He hit Rigo with some great shots the first time he spazzed out in the clinch.

Loma used hammer fists & other rabbit punches, late hits on break, hit after the bell etc. Then he cries when he barely gets hit low. I dno, he just bugs me lately.

“no mas chenko”.

I feel like the people who hate Mayweather Jr. I want someone to KTFO Loma.
Title: Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
Post by: seifullaah73 on December 10, 2017, 10:14:08 am
Rigo quit. Unreal.

Supposed hand injury, doubt it. He was getting owned at the end.

I love how Loma hits Rigo after the bell, nothing. Very next round, Rigo holds, point deduction. Somewhat of a weird fight. Loma spazzing out during those clinches was odd, definitely rattled Rigo though. He hit Rigo with some great shots the first time he spazzed out in the clinch.

Loma used hammer fists & other rabbit punches, late hits on break, hit after the bell etc. Then he cries when he barely gets hit low. I dno, he just bugs me lately.

“no mas chenko”.

I feel like the people who hate Mayweather Jr. I want someone to KTFO Loma.

I know right. WTF happened to rigo. I gave rigo round one and the rest to Loma.
Rigo was soo bad, he had poor defence, he relied too much on his counter that he was never aggressive.

One thing I really didn't like about rigo's tactics, given he has good slip and slide but in this fight I don't know why he would lower his head and slide and stay in crouched position letting loma hit him like wtf. Rigo had no aggression.

While loma as I had predicted was able to get in and out and what is all the holding about from Rigo just a waste of time then to see him quit on the stool just made it worse.  :uhhhfacepalm:. Loma made Rigo look bad.

lol at the spazzing out. But you can see why as it is quite annoying when your opportunity to get some combo's close is just stopped. He also didn't want the ref to break it he wanted to come out of it badly on his own so he could come back in and hit him.

I wanted Rigo to win even though he was soo bad, so I understand what you mean about hating Loma but I like combo and style but not his tactics. so I would like him to be humbled. :P

Injured hand is the norm in boxing. I think this was just a way for him to get out of the fight.