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Re: Misc Boxing News
« Reply #135 on: July 02, 2017, 10:17:02 pm »
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why pacquiao why??  :'( I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.


I don't know that seems absurd to me. I thought it was clearly Pacquiao with Horn winning only 4 rounds, 5 tops, and a dominating 9th round would have given Pacquiao a 10-8 round. Even though  Horn was aggressive, he landed few clean shots(some good) and was tactically trying to gain an advantage by clinching Pacquiao and throwing shots as the referee was breaking them up. I thought he should've been cautioned for that but it went on the entire fight and it wasn't until the middle rounds that Pacuaio started doing the same and going for his right eye.

These comments are from boxing and mma fighters and they for the most part seem to agree https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/2/15910258/they-said-what-fighters-react-to-controversial-manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-decision-boxing.

Interested to hear why you think differently. I guess we're learning that the commentary on a given network really does change your perspective.
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Re: Misc Boxing News
« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2017, 10:26:41 pm »
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why pacquiao why??  :'( I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.


I don't know that seems absurd to me. I thought it was clearly Pacquiao with Horn winning only 4 rounds, 5 tops, and a dominating 9th round would have given Pacquiao a 10-8 round. Even though  Horn was aggressive, he landed few clean shots(some good) and was tactically trying to gain an advantage by clinching Pacquiao and throwing shots as the referee was breaking them up. I thought he should've been cautioned for that but it went on the entire fight and it wasn't until the middle rounds that Pacuaio started doing the same and going for his right eye.

The idea of a 10-8 though, is just an idea. Horn didn't go down. It's more likely that judges would score that 10-9 than 10-8. Analysts etc scoring that round 10-8 don't have the burden of having to live up to that score at the end of the fight, like the real judges.

The 117-111 score is WAY off.

If you had Horn MAYBE winning 5 rounds, then that's 115-113 like the other two judges gave to Horn instead of Pac.

I think that's why the idea of "robbery" is annoying in this instance.. It was a *close* fight. Pac losing if he had completely dominated Horn, would make it a robbery. Pac losing in a close fight, makes it a normal fight in which judges can see a few rounds differently ringside, than people on tv.

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These comments are from boxing and mma fighters and they for the most part seem to agree https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/2/15910258/they-said-what-fighters-react-to-controversial-manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-decision-boxing.

Interested to hear why you think differently. I guess we're learning that the commentary on a given network really does change your perspective.

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Re: Misc Boxing News
« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2017, 10:28:15 pm »
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Dudes. Just saw the fight.

Horn winning that is not at all controversial IMHO. That was nowhere near a robbery like people are saying. That was a brutal, dirty fight. Honestly I had Horn winning 7-5 or a draw 6-6. If you were a judge LIVE at that fight, the aggression of Horn could have easily caused you to give him more rounds than Pacquiao.

Everyone all over the net, including boxing analysts, need to realize Pacquiao barely jabbed and NEVER went to the body. Pacquiao lost that fight himself. You don't box a bull by just throwing straights and hooks.

Pacquiao is an elite fighter & he didn't show it one bit. He showed heart, but not smarts. No jab, no body attack, absolutely horrible strategy by Pacquiao who probably thought there's no way he wouldn't be able to KO Horn.. and it came back to bite him bad.



why pacquiao why??  :'( I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.

Completely agree with the "announcers" swaying people. That was a very close fight. One of the announcers (I forget who it was) was keeping it real, he said it was very close.

Pacquiao had a chance to get Horn out of there in the 9th & subsequent rounds, but Horn somehow came right back & stayed in it.. I mean the ref came up to him in the corner and told him he was going to stop it. Horn comes right out and makes it a fight again.

I don't like Horn's style at all.. He's a spaz & he's dirty as fuck. But he has HEART that's for sure. This dude dug deep and keep pushing Pacquiao to his limits.



Hardly controversial IMHO. Calling this a robbery, is an injustice to *REAL* boxing robberies.  :ninja:

True man, you guys are bigger boxing fans than I so definitely expanding my horizons. I just thought that you shouldn't reward an overly aggressive and wild boxer like that when he didn't have the quality to go with it. If he could have done without all the clinching (and not even to defend himself but to throw dirty blows) I would've been much more okay with the decision. Of course Pacquiao isn't at the top of the game anymore but I thought he still was the better boxer and won the fight.
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Re: Misc Boxing News
« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2017, 10:29:26 pm »
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This article is pretty good:

http://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/more-generous-than-corrupt-horns-upset-of-pacquiao-exposes-an-important-truth/

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Regardless of whether you scored the battle on this night for Pacquiao (in full disclosure, I scored it 114-114), it's difficult to ignore the fact that Horn, 29, won the overall war. The massive underdog, without a signature victory to his name, backed up Pacquiao for 12 full rounds, outworked him and was awkward enough to at least give himself a chance to score an upset.

Also, everyone keeps mentioning the punch stats.. Showing Pacquiao's clear advantage in efficiency/landed shots.. But Horn threw MORE shots. It's hard for something to be a real robbery, when the other fighter who threw more shots ends up winning. Obviously, punches landed are more important overall, but when you're ringside and you see Horn going after Pacquiao non-stop, throwing more shots, it's easy to see how ringside judges could have given him rounds that people watching the fight on TV gave to pac.

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« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2017, 10:44:40 pm »
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Also one thing people aren't talking about.. Pacquiao's opponents rarely throw more punches than him.. Just something to think about. We just saw Pacquiao on the receiving end of some relentless aggression, which is usually Pacquiao's edge. Horn is sloppy & a spaz but he smothered Pacquiao with aggression. Had he tried to box with Pacquiao, he'd have been KO'd. Horn basically just executed the same game plan Maidana executed against Floyd in the first fight.. Just non-stop attack against someone who clearly outclasses you.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr._vs._Marcos_Maidana

There's an instance of a boxer being clearly outpunched but winning the decision. Massive edge in efficiency for Mayweather.

Lots of people (especially Pacquiao fans and Floyd "haters") were saying Maidana won that first fight... It definitely wouldn't have been a robbery if Maidana had won it. It was very close. Very similar to this fight between Pac/Horn, but Floyd was much sharper against Maidana than Pac was against Horn.



Dudes. Just saw the fight.

Horn winning that is not at all controversial IMHO. That was nowhere near a robbery like people are saying. That was a brutal, dirty fight. Honestly I had Horn winning 7-5 or a draw 6-6. If you were a judge LIVE at that fight, the aggression of Horn could have easily caused you to give him more rounds than Pacquiao.

Everyone all over the net, including boxing analysts, need to realize Pacquiao barely jabbed and NEVER went to the body. Pacquiao lost that fight himself. You don't box a bull by just throwing straights and hooks.

Pacquiao is an elite fighter & he didn't show it one bit. He showed heart, but not smarts. No jab, no body attack, absolutely horrible strategy by Pacquiao who probably thought there's no way he wouldn't be able to KO Horn.. and it came back to bite him bad.



why pacquiao why??  :'( I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.

Completely agree with the "announcers" swaying people. That was a very close fight. One of the announcers (I forget who it was) was keeping it real, he said it was very close.

Pacquiao had a chance to get Horn out of there in the 9th & subsequent rounds, but Horn somehow came right back & stayed in it.. I mean the ref came up to him in the corner and told him he was going to stop it. Horn comes right out and makes it a fight again.

I don't like Horn's style at all.. He's a spaz & he's dirty as fuck. But he has HEART that's for sure. This dude dug deep and keep pushing Pacquiao to his limits.



Hardly controversial IMHO. Calling this a robbery, is an injustice to *REAL* boxing robberies.  :ninja:

True man, you guys are bigger boxing fans than I so definitely expanding my horizons. I just thought that you shouldn't reward an overly aggressive and wild boxer like that when he didn't have the quality to go with it. If he could have done without all the clinching (and not even to defend himself but to throw dirty blows) I would've been much more okay with the decision. Of course Pacquiao isn't at the top of the game anymore but I thought he still was the better boxer and won the fight.

Definitely. The guy who throws more punches shouldn't by default win the fight, but there's lots of different factors that go in to judging each round. Here are the general criteria:
- Effective Aggression
- Ring Generalship
- Defense
- Hard / Clean punches

I wouldn't give either fighter an advantage in 'defense', they both were sloppy.

Overall, i'd give the "ring generalship" to Horn, he pushed Pacquiao for most of the fight. Horn made it ugly & turned it into a war.

Hard/Clean punches go mostly to Pacquiao, but Horn had his fair share of clean shots.. especially the uppercuts.

Effective Aggression is what becomes debatable: Pacquiao was more efficient with his punches, but Horn threw more punches & pushed the pace. It wasn't like Pacquiao was "beautifully countering Horn all night", ie a Matador, like some of the ESPN announcers said he was... He wasn't. Had he been doing so, he would have gotten Horn out of there.

The holding/clinching & butting is definitely a problem.. But, you can't hold it against Horn if you're a judge. The ref never deducted any points from Horn or gave him any hard warnings. Plus, the judges understand head butts happen more frequently when you have Orthodox vs Southpaw fighters. So you can't actually deduct/penalize Horn for any of that if the ref isn't penalizing Horn for it. In fact, Horn's holding on the inside could be seen in the "defense category".. Horn tying Pacquiao up on the inside to prevent Pac from working on the inside.

The thing about the "quality" behind Horn's aggressiveness, is Pacquiao wasn't able to really punish Horn for his lack of quality. A prime Pacquiao, or a Pacquiao with a better game plan, would have been able to do it. Pacquiao should have unleashed a relentless body attack on Horn, when Horn came in sloppy. He should have always "froze" Horn with the jab. So Horn's lack of quality was met with a nearly equal lack of a quality response from Pacquiao. To me, it seemed like Pacquiao was head hunting/KO hunting, fully confident that he would be able to get Horn out of there as Horn wore down or just catch him with something big, but he was in a war & Horn smothered most of Pacquiao's shots by being so relentless/sloppy/bouncing around like a nut case.

So yea, people have different opinions on it.. I'm just giving you mine (which seems to echo seifullaah's).

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« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2017, 11:00:54 pm »
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For anyone who just watched Pacquiao/Horn and wants to see the "difference" in efficiency vs total punch output & how it "should look" for the fighter who throws less punches/but is more accurate, this is a good example.

If you're a judge/observer, you could EASILY give this fight to Maidana.. you can also easily give it to Floyd. Ring generalship is the key. I'm pretty sure most observers will see Floyd clearly controlling the fight, even though he's out worked. And that becomes the difference maker in every round: more efficient + controlling each round.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_gOL2xgCM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_gOL2xgCM</a>

Then look at the punch stats:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr._vs._Marcos_Maidana


So after watching that fight.. If you recall the Pacquiao/Horn fight, Pacquiao was in a *war* compared to Floyd/Maidana 1. If Pacquiao had jabbed & gone to the body more, and tried to make it less of a war & more of a boxing match, the fight would have looked much different. The judges would have more easily given him "Effective Aggression". But instead he let Horn control that aspect of the fight.

IMHO, this is a perfect example of how Pacquiao should have tried to "out class" Horn .. not out war him.


Edit: biggest difference for Floyd: better defense, jabs, dedicated body work, controlled the pace of the fight even though he was getting outworked in the punch totals (ie outclassing Maidana).

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« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2017, 07:01:37 am »
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Dudes. Just saw the fight.

Horn winning that is not at all controversial IMHO. That was nowhere near a robbery like people are saying. That was a brutal, dirty fight. Honestly I had Horn winning 7-5 or a draw 6-6. If you were a judge LIVE at that fight, the aggression of Horn could have easily caused you to give him more rounds than Pacquiao.

Everyone all over the net, including boxing analysts, need to realize Pacquiao barely jabbed and NEVER went to the body. Pacquiao lost that fight himself. You don't box a bull by just throwing straights and hooks.

Pacquiao is an elite fighter & he didn't show it one bit. He showed heart, but not smarts. No jab, no body attack, absolutely horrible strategy by Pacquiao who probably thought there's no way he wouldn't be able to KO Horn.. and it came back to bite him bad.



why pacquiao why??  :'( I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.

Completely agree with the "announcers" swaying people. That was a very close fight. One of the announcers (I forget who it was) was keeping it real, he said it was very close.

Pacquiao had a chance to get Horn out of there in the 9th & subsequent rounds, but Horn somehow came right back & stayed in it.. I mean the ref came up to him in the corner and told him he was going to stop it. Horn comes right out and makes it a fight again.

I don't like Horn's style at all.. He's a spaz & he's dirty as fuck. But he has HEART that's for sure. This dude dug deep and keep pushing Pacquiao to his limits.



Hardly controversial IMHO. Calling this a robbery, is an injustice to *REAL* boxing robberies.  :ninja:

Finally, thanks for stating that. It's true the channel I watched they had it horn ahead by a small amount at the end the presenter was angry at the tweets people sending of robbery and dirty tactics and such. I saw horn winning the early rounds, with pacquiao winning some like round 3 and such but later on pacquiao realized the urgency and gave horn a beating in round 9, which could have gone 10-8. But horn's power how he penetrated pacquiao's defence and that right straight and he was looking for. Pacquiao started to come back later on but it was too late. A lot of close rounds cos of pacquiao's defence but horn landed majority of the hits and especially when you see pacquiao miss alot of his hits. I wouldn't be upset if it was a draw. but that 117-111 was way too wide, but he fell for the action from horn and scored it that way.

Same, horn moves way to much I think it's because of pacquiao's lack of action made horn fight good and landed those shots. But he moves way too much. I also didn't like horn holding too much.

Yes, calling it a robbery is injustice.
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« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2017, 07:02:57 am »
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just heard the Horn/Pacquiao news...  :o

I watched the entire fight man and it was an embarrassing decision. Boxing is a great sport but the people at the top are ruining it with their promotional bs. I don't understand why they insist on making it less of a sport and more entertainment to have it play out a certain way.

Best part was Steven A. Smith just going off on the decision and speaking his mind on how much of a joke it was. A lot of good points made on why UFC is becoming more popular and boxing is on the decline.

UFC has robberies just like Boxing.. lmao! UFC is a monopoly where they control the entire narrative. Boxing is decentralized. I've seen horrendous robberies in both sports, but at least boxing is decentralized which gives it less risk than UFC, since in boxing there are multiple title belts per weight class & different promotions/promoters (HBO/SHOWTIME) etc. When people say "MMA" now, they mean UFC. That's not healthy IMHO.

https://www.tapology.com/rankings/771-the-all-time-worst-robberies-in-mma-history

I've seen quite a few of those.. atrocious robberies.

There's lists like that for MMA & boxing, both sports need to improve judging.. but fighters in the end have the solution: don't let it go to the judges.

Exactly, pacquiao shouldn't have let it go to the judges. I am starting to hate to hearing from roach ko predictions raises people's hopes falsely.

for me, i don't know, horn's aggressiveness stood out more than pacquiao's aggresiveness. pacquiao's counter were good but not at what i am used to seeing from pacquiao because horn was awkward and moving too much.

the ref could have done a better job
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« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2017, 07:15:40 am »
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This covers in the beginning of what I was talking about espn's biased commentary towards pacquiao swaying people's opinion towards pacquiao being robbed and mentions people who feel pacquiao did lose.

malignaggi feels the same way about the decision and that you should watch espn fight on mute lol.
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« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2017, 05:33:24 pm »
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2017/07/02/manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-these-10-credible-people-dont-think-pac-man-was-robbed/#3a79f586c355

I'd put this upset near Buster Douglas vs Tyson.. To me that's the biggest boxing upset of all time, and will continue to be, because of the drama in the last 3 rounds & Douglas sealing the deal with a KO.

I was young af when I watched that upset.. But I actually remember crying when Tyson got KO'd by Buster, lmao.

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« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2017, 05:34:35 pm »
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^ to me, this is the greatest boxing upset of all time:

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« Reply #146 on: July 03, 2017, 08:05:19 pm »
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Damn in the post where I posted the score cards I forgot to add this link, where paulie and others tweets.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2017/07/02/manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-these-10-credible-people-dont-think-pac-man-was-robbed

Bu that buster douglas fight, I watched recently when I read virgil hunter's comments of andre berto beating floyd mayweather i think or maybe khan vs mayweather and he referred to this fight in terms of how they could win, as they had no same ring iq as floyd so they would just have to try hard and just beat him.

it was def a big upset. They should have had a rematch and I think maybe tyson would have won it if that loss humbled him,
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« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2017, 11:42:48 pm »
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Damn in the post where I posted the score cards I forgot to add this link, where paulie and others tweets.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2017/07/02/manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-these-10-credible-people-dont-think-pac-man-was-robbed

Bu that buster douglas fight, I watched recently when I read virgil hunter's comments of andre berto beating floyd mayweather i think or maybe khan vs mayweather and he referred to this fight in terms of how they could win, as they had no same ring iq as floyd so they would just have to try hard and just beat him.

yeah you can't straight up box Floyd, because his boxing is superb.. your best chance is to do what Maidana did: box + make it ugly. Boxing PLUS making it ugly, is a good formula.. but you need to be in incredible condition to pull something like that off. By the 8th round most people are going to be severely diminished; making it ugly with aggressive clinching & holding while chasing Floyd, takes alot out of a fighter.



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it was def a big upset. They should have had a rematch and I think maybe tyson would have won it if that loss humbled him,

nah that loss destroyed Tyson IMHO... Tyson is someone who can't handle defeat. He's got lots of characteristics of a "bully". Plus that loss showed other fights that he's not as tough as he looks. Once other fighters lose that fear, you're no longer as powerful.

I remember people were telling me he was going to kill Holyfield, .. Everyone laughed at me when I said holyfield was going to put on a clinic and KO him. People get caught up in the brutality of offense. Skills can always overcome power, in boxing.

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« Reply #148 on: July 07, 2017, 05:50:03 am »
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WBO will rescore the fight with jeff horn vs pacquiao using 5 anonymous judges and that will show which person really won the fight, but it won't change the score, because fight was close and it could have gone either way, but wbo has requested evidence of fraud or unfair officiating in order for it to change the decision.

http://www.sportingnews.com/other-sports/news/wbo-re-score-controversial-manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-letter/m1ro0z30l131ppyq91kd2ef3
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   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Re: Misc Boxing News
« Reply #149 on: July 07, 2017, 05:15:40 pm »
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WBO will rescore the fight with jeff horn vs pacquiao using 5 anonymous judges and that will show which person really won the fight, but it won't change the score, because fight was close and it could have gone either way, but wbo has requested evidence of fraud or unfair officiating in order for it to change the decision.

http://www.sportingnews.com/other-sports/news/wbo-re-score-controversial-manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-fight-letter/m1ro0z30l131ppyq91kd2ef3

very interested to see the outcome of this.. it was close no matter how you watched it (tv or ringside).