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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 02:26:55 pm »
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Floyd is probably the most boring fighter to watch on a heavy bag.. it's awesome though.

Floyd vs Pac on heavybag:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ZDd5jGzRg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ZDd5jGzRg</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MSh-qs7hFA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MSh-qs7hFA</a>



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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 02:37:20 pm »
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Lomachenko heavy bag

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgn9YxElBg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgn9YxElBg</a>

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2017, 04:59:27 pm »
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Messing around on punching bag. Please give me some pointers on mistakes and stance.  I have absolutely no boxing experience and using wraps to protect knuckles here. only experience was in high school back in the day when we had a backyard boxing club where the rules were all messed up, we were allowed to swing at someone getting up lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M</a>
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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 06:42:03 pm »
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Messing around on punching bag. Please give me some pointers on mistakes and stance.  I have absolutely no boxing experience and using wraps to protect knuckles here. only experience was in high school back in the day when we had a backyard boxing club where the rules were all messed up, we were allowed to swing at someone getting up lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M</a>

hah cool man!!

some stuff I see:

1. biggest issue is that "switch stance" thing you're doing.. that's only going get you caught off balance and there's time wasted where you're not in position to punch.

2. relax more.. don't "force your head/body movement" to the point where it's not rhythmic.. you'd be surprised how little you have to move in order to slip a punch, block a punch, or duck under a punch.. relaxing is important, whether it's running, sprinting, or boxing/hitting a heavy bag.

3. you're clearly not a south paw, so switching to southpaw (lefty stance) is a waste when you're trying to work the bag .. if you want to "obtain" southpaw punches/stance/defense, you have to practice it very controlled to really ingrain the technique/patterns first, before letting them go.

4. when you practice pulling back, which is fine and can allow you to slip all kinds of punches, you have to make sure you do it with your chin tucked into your chest... if you don't, you're risking getting flattened:
- pulling back with chin up = flattened
- pulling back with chin tucked = solid defense

it's those subtle little things that make such a huge difference.

5. really envision the bag as the opponent.. when it's coming towards you, that's when you want to be "moving your head/body etc", not when it's going away.. alot of the defense movements you make are when the bag is going away from you.. when in reality, they should be made when the bag is coming towards you (like an opponent).. so if you "slow everything down, relax more", you'll be in better position to move your head/body, and punch. Slowing things down will help alot initially.

6. can't tell in the vid, but make sure you are "biting down" when you're "within striking range" .. i used to practice against the bag with a mouth piece, so i could bite down properly.. practicing biting down is important because it gives you more power and it protects your jaw more, from being broken.

7. raise the punches up more.. you duck down alot and throw punches. that's ok but, you have to picture an opponent your height or taller, usually.. that helps keep your punches up.

other than that, you have some nice quick punches.. if you focus on a few of those things, you'll work the bag alot better and it'll be even more fun.

good stuff!

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 06:50:46 pm »
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I unprivated some old heavy bag videos:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alV8WrtCC50" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alV8WrtCC50</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQrm_u2ZYW8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQrm_u2ZYW8</a>

I make tons of mistakes here too..

Wish I had some videos when I had been boxing for a few years (2007 or so). These videos are from 2010, when I decided to just go get some heavy bag film out of nowhere.

IMHO, hitting the bag is about staying relaxed and then 'exploding with pure offense or counters'. Imagining the bag as your opponent is important. I've been wanting to go hit a bag again, who knows, maybe i'll get some more of that training in, in the near future. I miss it. Doing an hour on a bag or so, is such an amazing session - feel so good afterwards.

edit: btw, that's my favorite kind of heavy bag.. a big fat heavy one.

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 07:17:38 pm »
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How did you throw the left hook? Do you use more body movement or arm movement to throw a nice left hook?
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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2017, 08:13:44 pm »
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How did you throw the left hook? Do you use more body movement or arm movement to throw a nice left hook?

to me, body. it's a short shot where you try to line up your body weight behind it, and torque the hips while throwing it.

there's different kinds of hooks though.. the most devastating one is with your BW behind it. Tyson is good to learn from, probably the most picture perfect hook of all time.

but there's also "slapping hooks" etc.. these are "longer" and more loose.. can connect at further range but carry less devastating power because it's further away - though, they often look more brutal because they are "scary looking".

a short compact hook is lethal..minimal arm movement, proper angles, lots of hip = lethal.. Alot of baseball analogies apply, i imagine. Need to create an L with your arm and have the elbow up in line with your shoulder, fist neutral.. then you torque the hips as you punch into the target.. the more you open the elbow, the less devastating but the more range you can cover - and you can still wreck people with a long hook.

is that what you were talking about?

there's also fast slapping hooks as counters over jabs/crosses etc.

body shots are similar for the most part.. more hip torque than "punch" .. you torque the hip while getting behind the punch, into your target.

lots of different variations to the basic punches.

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2017, 10:26:15 pm »
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Messing around on punching bag. Please give me some pointers on mistakes and stance.  I have absolutely no boxing experience and using wraps to protect knuckles here. only experience was in high school back in the day when we had a backyard boxing club where the rules were all messed up, we were allowed to swing at someone getting up lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOq3DSnFj1M</a>

hah cool man!!

some stuff I see:

1. biggest issue is that "switch stance" thing you're doing.. that's only going get you caught off balance and there's time wasted where you're not in position to punch.

2. relax more.. don't "force your head/body movement" to the point where it's not rhythmic.. you'd be surprised how little you have to move in order to slip a punch, block a punch, or duck under a punch.. relaxing is important, whether it's running, sprinting, or boxing/hitting a heavy bag.

3. you're clearly not a south paw, so switching to southpaw (lefty stance) is a waste when you're trying to work the bag .. if you want to "obtain" southpaw punches/stance/defense, you have to practice it very controlled to really ingrain the technique/patterns first, before letting them go.

4. when you practice pulling back, which is fine and can allow you to slip all kinds of punches, you have to make sure you do it with your chin tucked into your chest... if you don't, you're risking getting flattened:
- pulling back with chin up = flattened
- pulling back with chin tucked = solid defense

it's those subtle little things that make such a huge difference.

5. really envision the bag as the opponent.. when it's coming towards you, that's when you want to be "moving your head/body etc", not when it's going away.. alot of the defense movements you make are when the bag is going away from you.. when in reality, they should be made when the bag is coming towards you (like an opponent).. so if you "slow everything down, relax more", you'll be in better position to move your head/body, and punch. Slowing things down will help alot initially.

6. can't tell in the vid, but make sure you are "biting down" when you're "within striking range" .. i used to practice against the bag with a mouth piece, so i could bite down properly.. practicing biting down is important because it gives you more power and it protects your jaw more, from being broken.

7. raise the punches up more.. you duck down alot and throw punches. that's ok but, you have to picture an opponent your height or taller, usually.. that helps keep your punches up.

other than that, you have some nice quick punches.. if you focus on a few of those things, you'll work the bag alot better and it'll be even more fun.

good stuff!

How come I am not southpaw?  I thought righty's are supposed to be southpaw so they can't load up to throw a nice right handed shot , and jabbing with left.

thanks for analysis!

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 08:03:33 pm »
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lmfao look at this human heavy bag.. i love that. it's enormous.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzgi9LIQJyA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzgi9LIQJyA</a>

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 03:26:49 pm »
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Chavez Jr. is known for his body shots, this puts it into perspective somewhat..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybMtpXcOqiQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybMtpXcOqiQ</a>

some of those are just lethal. brutal shots.

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Re: The Misc Heavybag Thread
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 05:42:24 pm »
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Tyson just destroying the heavy bag, but if you look at the guy at the back at the early part of the video on the speed bag, lmao, does he know how to use it lol.
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