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Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« on: February 28, 2010, 06:54:21 am »
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I used to be really cool with AlexM, but man I just can't take it. I was going to kickoff this section by calling out someone else, but after reading AlexM's new "THE FRAUD" 40 yard dash whatever-the-fu*k, I feel it's only right to start with him.

First let's start off with AlexM's "PROS":

PROS:

- Has the ability to write half decent programs.
- Has the ability to motivate others.
- He is a consistent, "hard worker", as is evident by his Charlie Francis Forum Training Journal & his DB HAMMER FORUM Training Journals.
- Has the ability to put out quality information, especially since he can consult the "EVIL GENIUS" Kelly B.
- Can speak well on camera (lolz).
- Can dribble a basketball very fast, probably has some decent basketball skills.

CONS:

AlexM has had two public training journals, view for yourself how he has trained:

2006-2008: http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?t=17894
2008-2009: http://dbhammer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Logs&action=display&thread=1977&page=1

Training history: Though Alex Maroko is a hard worker, in the weight room & on the court, his hard work has never publicly gotten him ANYWHERE special. This so called SPEED-TRAINING expert, claims he runs a 4.67 40 yard dash? He, or his marketing goons, have claimed he's a "dunk master"? If you sift through his journals, you will not see a 40 yard dash below 4.91, nor a dunk.  If you look on his youtube, or one of his 100 websites, you will not see a 40 yard dash or a dunk.

Ok here's the first claim, which you can find littered over the entire internet: Alex Maroko is a DUNK MASTER!


If you look back in his journals on DB FORUM / CF FORUM, you'll see his SVJ / RVJ are abysmal. During the time of his journal keeping, he could barely touch rim off a full run up, even after about 2 years of training.

2007:


2008: November


2008: December

December 2008: Vertical jump: 23 INCHES

^ that's basically Jan 1 2009 folks.



WHAT
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The next claim, 4.67s 40 yard dash:



He claims the 4.91 in late 2008, but honestly, his 4.67 doesn't even make sense. First of all, he'll never let you forget his 10 yard dash is 1.65 with a 5.5 40. So what happened to his 10 yard dash now that he runs 4.67 in the 40? What is it, 1.3-1.4s?

WHEN YOU CALL YOURSELF A SPEED EXPERTS YOU MUST HAVE SPEEDS. Well, not really I take that back. But in Maroko's case, never having coached any impressive speed athlete, he had to rely on his own (inflated) accomplishments.

You can't run a 4.91s 40 and call yourself a speed expert, that's for sure.




ALEX MAROKO IS A SPEED EXPERT!



^^ peep the title: "Speed Training Secrets With World Renowned Trainer Alex Maroko"

Ok, so, how did Alex M somehow become a "Speed Expert". Or perhaps, the world's foremost & most respected speed coach. What did he do? Who did he coach?

No seriously, these are not rhetorical.

How do you just come out with a dvd, "The Truth About Quickness", and instantly start calling yourself a speed expert, or the world's foremost speed coach?

Well, *applaud*, it has worked pretty effectively. Just by googling Alex Maroko you'd think he was training Usain Bolt.

Maybe this explains it:

http://www.incomediary.com/alex-maroko-interview-young-entrepreneur-making-6-figures-in-his-first-year-online/


Hanging around with marketing guru's can really SCAM U THE FUK UP.

He's done radio shows and articles explaining his shady scam tactics. How brazen is that? Basically shoot the shit with a bunch of shady marketing gurus, talking about your little tactics to "convert" people or charging more for a product to boost up its perceived value. Sure, these are "valid" marketing tactics, but combined with falsifying stats & selling shitty ass programs for way too much, I don't consider it very honorable.


RIGHT ON BRO ILL THINK ABOUT IT WHEN I SELL MY FALSIFY YOUR STATS EBOOK FOR VERTICAL JUMP IMPROVEMENT.




SCAM TACTICS:


I'll start off with possibly the WORST scam shit AlexM has done so far => Promoting squatflex. What man, with integrity, with morals and honor, would promote a COMPLETE PIECE OF GARBAGE such as squatflex, to a bunch of aspiring athletes?

A SCAMMER WITH NO MORALS, INTEGRITY, OR HONOR. That's who.

Squatflex is going to be in its own separate call em out, that's for sure, so no need to go into major detail here. But for those of you who don't know, squatflex, is a piece of shit that costs 500$ regularly, and ~300$ during the holidays or with special promotions. You know, when momz and popz are willing to bust out the CC for little Timmy for Christmas.

So, not to go into too much detail on squatflex, as that would derail this post by 5,000 words, let's get into why AlexM promoted that piece of shit.

Whoring squatflex gets you: money & access to jumpusa's mailing list

So, by whoring out squatflex, you get access to their gullible users, so now through jumpusa you can push your own product. In the IRC industry, this is known as a classic "double pound".


SCA-SCA-SCA-SCA-SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM-tactics.



We were there! You should have logged it in your 2+ year old journal. You just disappeared and somehow became a freak! We could have shared that moment together... AlexM, TVS, and DB Forum.



INDEED. Barely touching rim & flying down the court, blazing 4.91 speed, does imply rocket boosters in the kobe V'z.

Oh, I see what you did there. Rocket booster's are attractive to 14 year old's. Fourteen year old's are gullible and have parents to buy them shit. Let's use lots of buzzwords like "rocket boosters", "super", "amazing", "INCREDIBLE", and shit like that to flip their weak minds.

BRO U SHOULD TEACH A CLASS AT UNIVERSITY OF PHEONIX _ONLINE_. (ps: GET A DEGREE QUICK, IN ONLY 3 MONTHS @ UoP ONLINE, why take 7 years to become a neuro surgeon, when you can do it in 3 MONTHS AT UOP ONLINE.


Wut? It's a dynamic warmup.




You played DII ball before your amazingly super rocketboosting transformation. Check your journals. In all seriousness, to play DII basketball running a 5.5 40 is pretty impressive, implies some skillz.




Fiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnallllllly... Why can't you be so truthful all the time man? Seriously, you brought sexy back, squat flexed it, barely touched rim, and won me over.




How can the world's most incredible speed trainer, who specializes in every sport, hate the sciences? wtf?



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_csSUFF_4U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_csSUFF_4U</a>



Using your friend from DB forum, in a testimonial, when he could already dunk, and most undoubtedly has never done flying in four. That footage of allan22 was taken a year prior to flying in four. Come on now.

Allan22 what's the deal that's some grimey shit. Please, tell us how much you got paid, we'd all love to know.



Cool links:

EBH:
http://cb-tracker.com/products/ALEXMAROKO.php

Flying in 4:
http://cb-tracker.com/products/FLYIN4.php

TAQ:
http://cb-tracker.com/products/AMAROKO.php

Marketing GURU interview:
http://super-trainer.com/alex-maroko-interview/

Marketing guru's make awesome urls:
http://how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-today.info/alex-maroko-interview-young-entrepreneur-making-6-figures-in-his-first-year-online/




ok im bored, whatever. if anyone has anything in favor or against maroko, feel free to drop it. this thread format actually looks like a scammer website.

oh ya, alexm, if you want to drop vid of some master-dunks or 4.67's i'd be more than happy to re-evaluate my post.


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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 07:10:50 am »
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I was just skimming through this article, and I couldn't help but notice his workout journals from Dec 2008. Basically, more or less, a year ago, he had a vertical leap of 23 inches, and now he's a dunk master? Sounds like a scammer.

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 07:21:18 am »
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Awesome article , either someone agrees or not!

I voted "kinda"

Alex is one of those guys that confuse you. He is such a hard worker , and has acomplished so much with hard training and dedication. But he's got that BS talking style. Too much talking , too much hype , too much friendly.
In my mind i have him like a twin with Tyler Ray ( next calling out article? ).
Tyler is the same , he is absolutely legit about his mouth droping VJ ( like Alex with quickness ), but again theres too much BS around it.
Back to Alex , BS is about to win... and right when im almost sure he's a scammer , he comes out as a Kelly Baggett partner.
Im realy confused now... i cant call him a scammer , i cant call him "clean".
Im sticking with kind and watching close :D
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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 07:43:16 am »
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noice job adarq, way to kick it off! We're about to blow the roof off this thing!!!!! Vert industry is going to implode!
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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 07:47:16 am »
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Awesome article , either someone agrees or not!

I voted "kinda"

Alex is one of those guys that confuse you. He is such a hard worker , and has acomplished so much with hard training and dedication. But he's got that BS talking style. Too much talking , too much hype , too much friendly.
In my mind i have him like a twin with Tyler Ray ( next calling out article? ).
Tyler is the same , he is absolutely legit about his mouth droping VJ ( like Alex with quickness ), but again theres too much BS around it.
Back to Alex , BS is about to win... and right when im almost sure he's a scammer , he comes out as a Kelly Baggett partner.
Im realy confused now... i cant call him a scammer , i cant call him "clean".
Im sticking with kind and watching close :D


That's the beauty of the "Yes, No, Kinda" democratic system. :)

Ya, If AlexM dropped the bullshit he could become legitimate. The problem is, this type of shit fits a scammer-profile, for example: Scam the F out of everyone to build an initial rep, then either transition into being more legit or keep scamming. The initial "investment" of scamming & talking tons of bullshit, means you will blow up quick.

The scammer profile includes coming out with some supposed ground breaking program, yet hardly anybody (or nobody) has ever used it, then it has some huge release date with lots of hype, and they make tons of money right off the bat & just straight blow up.

The scammer profile includes proclaiming yourself as some kind of expert, when others would not, but by gorilla marketing tactics, overtime they somehow become established experts.

I don't know too much about tyler ray, except that he is the most unfunny person I've ever seen on the internets. I tend to think he's at least decent, since he was involved with "Playground Dynasty", yet somehow did not become a jumpusa whore. That earns some points in my opinion. I should check out his stuff more, all I know is he is about to bank hardcore by teaming up with TFB.

The difference between Tyler Ray and Maroko, is tyler ray is fast & can fly. If that's "mostly genetic", who knows. But, you can see him putting in work.

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 07:48:06 am »
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noice job adarq, way to kick it off! We're about to blow the roof off this thing!!!!! Vert industry is going to implode!

ya.. u know whose next.. therius upz (hint hint).

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 07:52:34 am »
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That's the beauty of the "Yes, No, Kinda" democratic system. :)

Ya, If AlexM dropped the bullshit he could become legitimate. The problem is, this type of shit fits a scammer-profile, for example: Scam the F out of everyone to build an initial rep, then either transition into being more legit or keep scamming. The initial "investment" of scamming & talking tons of bullshit, means you will blow up quick.

The scammer profile includes coming out with some supposed ground breaking program, yet hardly anybody (or nobody) has ever used it, then it has some huge release date with lots of hype, and they make tons of money right off the bat & just straight blow up.

The scammer profile includes proclaiming yourself as some kind of expert, when others would not, but by gorilla marketing tactics, overtime they somehow become established experts.

I don't know too much about tyler ray, except that he is the most unfunny person I've ever seen on the internets. I tend to think he's at least decent, since he was involved with "Playground Dynasty", yet somehow did not become a jumpusa whore. That earns some points in my opinion. I should check out his stuff more, all I know is he is about to bank hardcore by teaming up with TFB.

The difference between Tyler Ray and Maroko, is tyler ray is fast & can fly. If that's "mostly genetic", who knows. But, you can see him putting in work.

pc

Couldn't agree more with everything you said!
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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 03:21:03 pm »
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Alex is one of those guys that confuse you. He is such a hard worker , and has acomplished so much with hard training and dedication.

He is a hard worker, but what has he really accomplished? He wasn't jumping any higher in 2 years of training. He increased his bench from 205x2 to 230x1.


And he claims to "hate the sciences" but he pays Kelly Baggett to pretty much just talk about the sciences.

And reading between the lines, is he really claiming a 7'9 reach when he's 6'0 and has a 6'5 wingspan? Seems to me like he's just making excuses for sucking.
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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 04:21:04 pm »
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And reading between the lines, is he really claiming a 7'9 reach when he's 6'0 and has a 6'5 wingspan? Seems to me like he's just making excuses for sucking.

LOL i am 6' with 6'3'' wingspan and my reach is 7'11''
6'5'' wingspan and 7'9'' reach probably doesnt exist in nature! :D
Didnt notice that , ridiculous!!!
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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 09:42:12 pm »
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noice job adarq, way to kick it off! We're about to blow the roof off this thing!!!!! Vert industry is going to implode!

ya.. u know whose next.. therius upz (hint hint).


It's sooooooo cooooo... I just b jumpin n shit.
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svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 07:21:45 pm »
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agreed

used to actually talk with him frequently, went away for a few months for some boot camp type stuff, came back, and he turned out to be a scammmmer  weird but i guess he loves the money

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 12:41:01 am »
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taylor allan states

"i just want to thank you for the flying in four program you just sent me"

so technically he wasn't lying, he just sent him the program and allan is saying he likes it and the video makes you think he did the program and got his hops from it

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2010, 12:45:25 am »
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damn adarq, you really rip everyone apart, must take you forever to get all this shit and put it together, real impressive

who's next???

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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2010, 12:46:28 am »
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taylor allan states

"i just want to thank you for the flying in four program you just sent me"

so technically he wasn't lying, he just sent him the program and allan is saying he likes it and the video makes you think he did the program and got his hops from it

sure, but, people who are interested in the program aren't going to hear that.

instead, they will see dunks in the beginning.

they will hear allen talk about how good it is.

then they will hear:

"the flying in 4 programs works, there's no doubt about it"



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Re: Alex "The King of Quickness" Maroko
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2010, 01:09:47 am »
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agreed