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Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« on: May 04, 2011, 01:22:34 am »
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http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/showthread.php?t=23226&page=1
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The level of asshattery in this thread is by Rippetoe and Moser simply astounding.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011, 10:19:15 am »
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alright, hickson. your new goal is to snatch and C&J more than that chick. cause i'm for damn sure never going to snatch 146kg or C&J 179.

go get it.

EDIT: Also, 80smediumsized is one of the best user names I've ever seen.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 10:27:55 am by LBSS »
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
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- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
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- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 12:19:13 pm »
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I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2011, 12:37:31 pm »
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 Man, im really dissapointed in that, Pendlay is as solid and legit as a coach as you can find, and is doing big things with the team right now.   
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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 02:41:25 pm »
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The guy who has a 300 page book about technique for 5 exercises is anti technique?





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I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


Don't PM me asking me training questions. I'm here for the lulz. If you want help, post on the forums and get help from all the members, maybe even me.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2011, 02:54:44 pm »
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Well to him, that's manly. Watch how any powerlifter looks and you get the idea.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 03:25:23 pm »
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where does he say he's anti technique?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 03:58:14 pm »
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where does he say he's anti technique?

He doesn't say that directly, but it seemed like he was implying they spend too much time on technique and not enough on get stronger on the squat/deadlift.
I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


Don't PM me asking me training questions. I'm here for the lulz. If you want help, post on the forums and get help from all the members, maybe even me.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 04:52:20 pm »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...


the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 10:22:03 pm »
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alright, hickson. your new goal is to snatch and C&J more than that chick. cause i'm for damn sure never going to snatch 146kg or C&J 179.

go get it.

EDIT: Also, 80smediumsized is one of the best user names I've ever seen.

Comparing directly on bodyweight between the genders is totally unfair. If you want a fair comparison for a US guy against Titana you look at Shane Hamman's 197.5 snatch 240 clean and jerk. Titiana's a freak lifter. She beat the previous snatch WR by a full 5kg.

I think it also kinda belittles the ridiculous strength of these girls when you say that any guy unable to out lift them isn't strong.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 10:37:18 pm »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...
the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.

There are very, very few good points made in that thread and a lot of douchebaggery.

The current crop of US lifters are not strong enough to win medals as they are. This is a fact. To say that they are not trying hard enough to get stronger or that they would be better off focusing more on squats and deadlifts not only dispepects the huge effort that these guys put into their training, but also goes against the last 40 years of coaching knowledge developed by the very countries who are beating the USA.

The best track and field athletes, basketball players and football players do not make the best olympic weightlifters. They're far too tall and often have the wrong proportions. Undersized college players would be good to go after but weightlifting cannot offer scholarships or even the popularity and prestige of being on the basketball or football team or running track...

To develop a good olympic weightlifter you need to:
Find a small, explosive and flexible athlete at a young age
Who enjoys an intense, repetitive and painful sport with little to no public interest
Pay them to do nothing but lift, sleep and eat

A number of tiny pacific islands including Nauru and Samoa have developed extremely good weightlifting teams by doing exactly this. This is how you produce guys doing 160/200 at 85kg from a population of under 10000 people (Yukio Peter of Nauru).
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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 11:56:14 pm »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...
the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.

There are very, very few good points made in that thread and a lot of douchebaggery.

The current crop of US lifters are not strong enough to win medals as they are. This is a fact. To say that they are not trying hard enough to get stronger or that they would be better off focusing more on squats and deadlifts not only dispepects the huge effort that these guys put into their training, but also goes against the last 40 years of coaching knowledge developed by the very countries who are beating the USA.

The best track and field athletes, basketball players and football players do not make the best olympic weightlifters. They're far too tall and often have the wrong proportions. Undersized college players would be good to go after but weightlifting cannot offer scholarships or even the popularity and prestige of being on the basketball or football team or running track...

To develop a good olympic weightlifter you need to:
Find a small, explosive and flexible athlete at a young age
Who enjoys an intense, repetitive and painful sport with little to no public interest
Pay them to do nothing but lift, sleep and eat

A number of tiny pacific islands including Nauru and Samoa have developed extremely good weightlifting teams by doing exactly this. This is how you produce guys doing 160/200 at 85kg from a population of under 10000 people (Yukio Peter of Nauru).

bam. x10000. the premise of that thread is funny, olympic WEIGHTLIFTERS need to get stronger (revolutionary idea) , and everybody that has little to nothing to do with olympic weightlifting, has advice for glenn, on how that should be done.  Since glenn doesnt know how to get them stronger......................................... RIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2011, 12:00:38 am by LanceSTS »
Relax.

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 12:40:55 am »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...
the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.


The best track and field athletes, basketball players and football players do not make the best olympic weightlifters. They're far too tall and often have the wrong proportions. Undersized college players would be good to go after but weightlifting cannot offer scholarships or even the popularity and prestige of being on the basketball or football team or running track...



no but what you would get are the incredibly athletic people who aren't the best in their sport (because of their proportions) and get them to weightlift...

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 02:14:35 am »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...
the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.


The best track and field athletes, basketball players and football players do not make the best olympic weightlifters. They're far too tall and often have the wrong proportions. Undersized college players would be good to go after but weightlifting cannot offer scholarships or even the popularity and prestige of being on the basketball or football team or running track...



no but what you would get are the incredibly athletic people who aren't the best in their sport (because of their proportions) and get them to weightlift...

That's exactly what everyone is saying they should do. How to convince that guy to do weightlifting rather than play football? How do you even introduce that guy to weightlifting?

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Re: Internet douchebaggery by Mark Rippetoe and Jim Moser
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2011, 03:54:13 am »
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Other than disrespecting Pendlay, who I think is a great coach, there are many good points being made in that thread...
the US does need to get stronger & rippetoe is right, in the US the best athletes do not olympic weightlift.


The best track and field athletes, basketball players and football players do not make the best olympic weightlifters. They're far too tall and often have the wrong proportions. Undersized college players would be good to go after but weightlifting cannot offer scholarships or even the popularity and prestige of being on the basketball or football team or running track...



no but what you would get are the incredibly athletic people who aren't the best in their sport (because of their proportions) and get them to weightlift...

That's exactly what everyone is saying they should do. How to convince that guy to do weightlifting rather than play football? How do you even introduce that guy to weightlifting?

You don't.