I've never actually seen Puke doing squatflex ads... would someone be nice enough to show me? I thought squats were bad by the way...

I think it's the opposite of squatextend.

In TVP 3.0 he discusses actually being the inventor of squat flex.

i'm baffled as to why hiller would feel the need to team up with maroko/jumpusa, i mean, forgive me if i'm wrong, but didn't he already bank hard before teaming up with maroko & co? Doesn't he actually make the most money out of everyone listed.. why the hell would he feel the need to team up with maroko/jumpusa is what I want to know.. IMO, If I were hiller (which i'm not, i'm broke), I would just put that extra effort spent teaming up with scammers into improving the jump manual and making future modifications etc, so that it is a better product, month after month, year after year.. From what it looks like, he already rapes the industry on vert training.



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great point... Apparently KellyB wrote TAQ though? That recently confused me, I thought that was alex maroko's program influenced by "kelly b's training over the years".. If it's maroko's program, then your point stands, if it's kelly B's program, then it has more of a foundation.. regardless, when he says those drills got him to speed freak and all that stuff, they didn't, so incorporating programming (TAQ) into your product (jump manual) would be based on a bed of lies.



Hiller has said "band training is more beneficial than dead weight training", he claims studies etc, but, in reality, band training is not any more effective than regular free weight training. It would be nice if he posted those studies here. The most solid routines are always the most basic, and pretty much none of those use bands/chains.. Bands/chains are a big fad, though they do provide a nice stimulus, but maximally accelerating through the bar which consists of "dead weight" will give you the same effect, and you should be doing that already.. So i'm not on board with the whole "bands are superior approach", because regardless, what is most important in athletic movements is how much force you can create initially, "not at the top".. by the time you get towards the top of your jump, the majority of the force you provided earlier on during the eccentric phase & the switching from eccentric to concentric, is what will impact the jump the most.. This is where very high forces are created and elastic energy is stored in the tendons, priming the concentric phase of the jump.. the act of triple extending all the way through the toes is not targeted by the squat flex, the squat flex doesn't overload the "bottom" of the movement which is more important than overloading the top.

The bottom of the movement can be ATG squat, parallel squat, of half squat depth.. squatflex loses a ton of tension towards those depths.

Squatflex is going to focus more on improving concentric strength, what it does not improve are things very key to performance:
- Doesn't improve ECCENTRIC RFD as much as a barbell movement
- Doesn't Improve strength in the weaker ranges of movement (deeper)
- Over-improves the top of the movement substantially compared to the bottom, which technically should effect the quad to hamstring strength ratio, which we all know gets dangerous if the ratio grows
- Band tension is limited to grip
- The body is in a round-back hack squat position for most everyone who uses it, placing more emphasis on incorrect motor patterns, you're not going to get a hip dominant lift with squat flex, it's going to be knee dominant + low back dominant.
- Focuses more on low back and quad, less emphasis on glutes
- Is limited in the amount of exercises you can perform with it, get in a gym.


Furthermore, inexperienced athletes shouldn't be played with intense band tension, which is what squatflex does -> introduces inexperienced, underdeveloped, and quick-result mindset athletes to a mindset of heavy band tension on a device that leads to lower back rounded hack squats. Not a good combo. So marketing squatflex to young kids is a travesty, they should be sticking to the basics and learning what REAL performance training is all about.


peace!

Right I was just going off on a rant.. Bands/chains can be very beneficial, but athletes who focus on maximally accelerating the bar get pretty much the same effect on the concentric portion of the lift.. the increased acceleration of the bar downward using bands is a very intense stimulus, this can be achieved by focusing on speed during the eccentric phase of the squat, but that can be risky depending on your experience level.. It's definitely safer with bands if you control the negative, than trying to divebomb with no bands. Regardless, the most important phase of any lift is the switching from eccentric to concentric, this need to be a primary focus of ones training. Regardless of how fast you go down (I prefer controlled, moderate speed, no dive bombing), the transition needs to be as explosive as possible with maximal acceleration towards the top.

/end tangent

peace



The vast majority of the "athletes" it is being marketed to, are teens, 14-16 years old, that's irresponsible imo.

Hiller enjoys band training and prefers it, but the same people who he probably learned it from, would not advocate loading up considerable band tensions on a squat or even worse, on a squat flex. Guaranteed.

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It's funny how you guys talk in a serious manner about all these people, I would give them a fart in the face if I were you (although on a second thought...).

I mean, once a guy proves he's scamming, it's "bye bye" from me for pretty much forever. Plus that the videos they make are so fake, they don't believe in what they say THEMSELVES, probably because they do have some background and know they're bullshitting so it's limited to each person's ability to play theatre.

Disgusting. I'd rather play with that elephant dildo.

you missed the joke zetz. those places are the only places that squatflex doesnt ship to.