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« on: December 20, 2010, 02:01:02 pm »
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So, does it? We're talking lies of some kind of magnitude, such as really lying about your stats, lying about your client's stats, promoting a product using lies, willingly deceiving people, etc.. Not "I jumped 30 inches saturday!" and it was really 28, or lying about when you walked your dog etc.

We're talking just one lie here, not even multiple.. One significant lie indicates their could be further lies, so one lie is enough.

So does that ruin all credibility, even if some information provided by this coach actually is legitimate etc?

Discuss friends!
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 03:45:38 pm »
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If their program/coaching was as good as they say it was, they wouldn't need to lie. They could post their own results or results of their athletes. Therefore anyone who lies does not have credibility no matter how good their program is.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 04:17:11 pm »
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In theory it shouldn't take away from the information provided, but in reality it definitely does.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 04:24:54 pm »
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If their program/coaching was as good as they say it was, they wouldn't need to lie. They could post their own results or results of their athletes. Therefore anyone who lies does not have credibility no matter how good their program is.

That's why adarq.org has a journal, then there is no lying or fudging number/results
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 10:59:37 pm »
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Definitely, as Abraham Lincoln said, "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens you can never regain their respect and esteem. It is true that you may fool all the people some time; you can even fool some of the people all the time; but you can't fool all the people all the time".
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 01:53:48 pm »
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Definitely, as Abraham Lincoln said, "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens you can never regain their respect and esteem. It is true that you may fool all the people some time; you can even fool some of the people all the time; but you can't fool all the people all the time".

abraham lincoln & thomas jefferson quotes for the win.
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PED's in drug free sports is cheating, unethical, and weak. Athletes and/or coaches who condone/display this behavior can get lost.


"But you have never felt the burn that you get in the hip flexors from pulling back on the pedal stroke, you have never done the exercise in your life. Squatting ain't doing shit for your hip flexors blu." -- sickenin vendetta.

QuickMix: Gulf Dunk Mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHyFdbJnrY&hd=1

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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 08:50:09 pm »
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completely dependent on the magnitude of the lie..
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