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« on: August 15, 2011, 10:19:54 pm »
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Hi guys. I am new in here.

AGE: 16
HEIGHT: 6"0
WEIGHT: 146lbs
wingspan: 6"1
SLEEP SCHEDULE: 10:00pm- 6:30am
BODY TYPE: Athletic but kind of skinny. 8.9% body fat (little belly fat...) Asian
GOALS: dunk with two hands before next summer
CURRENT ABILITY: only dunked with one hand two times. standing vertical 29" running vertical one leg: 31" two legs: 30"
INJURY HISTORY: None
TRAINING HISTORY & ACHIEVEMENTS: Bodyweight work-out only.
CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL AND/OR TRAINING PROGRAM: Only play basketball serveral times a week
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF CURRENT DIET: Everything except fastfood, no drinks, no smoke or drug.
IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES: Taking weight trainning at school this year

What should I do? How am I going to design a program that fit myself.
My upper body is weak... I only bench 130lbs....
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 02:16:22 am »
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BODY TYPE: Athletic but kind of skinny. 8.9% body fat (little belly fat...) Asian

Not possible!


HEIGHT: 6"0
wingspan: 6"1
CURRENT ABILITY: only dunked with one hand two times. standing vertical 29" running vertical one leg: 31" two legs: 30"

Not possible!


What should I do? How am I going to design a program that fit myself.

http://www.adarq.org/forum/performance-training-blog/an-introductory-block/


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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 06:39:02 am »
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possible...

My upper body is weak, but my lower body is not that bad....
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 12:28:57 pm »
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Plus my dad and grandpa used to play volleyball for school. That's why I think I have to ability to jump without doing weight training.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 12:36:47 pm »
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I meant that it is :
-Impossible to have 8.9% bodyfat and have some belly fat , 8.9% is seriously ripped!
-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.
Not saying you are lying , you just probably got some numbers wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 12:42:25 pm »
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What did you do to measure your body fat %.  Unless you got it tested with calipers by someone very experienced with using them, you probably got a misread.  If you used electronic devices that send pulses through your body, they are as reliable as shit.  I am ~12-13%, but those devices said I was 5% LOLLL.  Even if you used calipers, there is room for error.

Vag, maybe he has a small head and short neck, and his shoulders are at a much higher starting point than yours? LOLLL
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Goal is to dunk.

Vertical needed to dunk: 40"

Current vertical : 37"
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 01:15:25 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 01:29:05 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 01:41:20 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 01:51:56 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.

7'11 reach for me as well. But if I have a 6'2 wingspan and you have a 6'5 wingspan (how do you have such a HUGE wingspan?!?!) how can we reach the same height? You must have a really high neck and long head or something, so the 6'5 wingspan loses length to cover that distance. WTF ninja

BTW - I can't dunk without palming the ball. Not even at lower rims.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 02:02:03 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.

7'11 reach for me as well. But if I have a 6'2 wingspan and you have a 6'5 wingspan (how do you have such a HUGE wingspan?!?!) how can we reach the same height? You must have a really high neck and long head or something, so the 6'5 wingspan loses length to cover that distance. WTF ninja

BTW - I can't dunk without palming the ball. Not even at lower rims.

Raptor indeed i have long neck & head. Btw , i am 6'1'' in bball shoes , barefoot height is just below 6' ( 182.5cm ) , loooong hands!

Ineedtodunk  good point, Kellyb discusses that technique in this article : http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/lastlittlebit.html
Personally i can't use that , to get clean dunks at a rim i need to be able to get ~9'' above it without the ball. And if i can't palm the ball i need like 10-12 inches above , for cuffed one-handers or two-handers.
I probably just suck at dunking, LOL
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 02:22:58 pm »
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Switch to palmed one-leg dunks Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 08:56:58 pm »
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7"7 Max reach.

My 6 packs are not showing and I think because I have little fat on it... That's why i am saying I have some belly fat
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 09:02:24 pm »
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I meant that it is :
-Impossible to have 8.9% bodyfat and have some belly fat , 8.9% is seriously ripped!
-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.
Not saying you are lying , you just probably got some numbers wrong.
peace

Well, i said I only dunked 2 times.... It was just a good day...Normally I can't dunk.
I can palm the basketball too.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 02:53:50 am »
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Well , there you go!
This has gone too long , but 7'7'' + 31''= 10'2''
There is no way in this world you can dunk 10' when you can reach 2'' above the rim.
So when you dunked you jumped higher , even with raptor's extreme claim of dunking with only 5'' above the rim you would still need 34'' to dunk.
Sometimes it happens, the runup & plant are just perfect and you get a crazy PR jump. This is much more probable to happen on a single leg jump too because of the reactive nature of it , double leg jumps have much less fluctuation.

Ok , enough hijacking...
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