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« on: July 19, 2011, 02:35:31 pm » |
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore.  |
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Raptor
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 03:19:17 pm » |
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Nice but... What's you squat? |
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RJ Nelsen
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 03:29:43 pm » |
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Hahahaha!  No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right? |
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Raptor
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 04:18:27 pm » |
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Hahahaha! No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right? Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat). |
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DamienZ
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 02:38:58 am » |
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Hahahaha! No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right? Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat). you're doing it wrong! |
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Raptor
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 03:17:50 am » |
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Hahahaha! No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right? Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat). you're doing it wrong! No shit? Well that was the idea. |
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RJ Nelsen
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 09:47:50 am » |
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Haha, yeah, that's pretty much it. I can't really help you here either. I never could get the hang clean down. That having been said, it's not a lift I'd recommend to someone looking to increase their CMJ. I think a hang snatch would work much better. Plus, it's easy to get the bar in the right place for the scoop on a snatch. |
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steven-miller
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 11:25:56 am » |
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement? |
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 12:27:20 pm » |
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Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
Lots of reasons. They're fun, sometimes I don't have access to a barbell, they make sure I don't get fat, they spare the lower back, they help with gymnastic movements and body control, and I seem to recover from them better. Plus, the strength they build transfers over directly to barbell pressing, provided one does them paused and with a full ROM. |
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DamienZ
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 12:43:08 pm » |
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement? |
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steven-miller
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 12:43:55 pm » |
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Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
Lots of reasons. They're fun, sometimes I don't have access to a barbell, they make sure I don't get fat, they spare the lower back, they help with gymnastic movements and body control, and I seem to recover from them better. Plus, the strength they build transfers over directly to barbell pressing, provided one does them paused and with a full ROM. Good enough reasons! I was just wondering because I imagine the effect being similar to a work-out with higher volume / lower intensity presses. That would have the advantage of manipulating the resistance a little better if necessary. But you seem to know what you are doing, your press got fucking strong. |
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steven-miller
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 12:52:26 pm » |
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement? Damien, you have a bad habit of answering with really childish responses to serious meant questions. I was not trolling RJ here, because I am not a troll. I recognized that he is very damn strong in the press and asked why he would do handstand push-ups as assistance instead of light, higher volume presses because of the reason I stated above (better control over resistance). I was not going to imply that you cannot get strong with bodyweight movements. I just think that less ability to control resistance is a disadvantage in many cases, but probably not in this one for the reasons RJ posted. It is also an assistance movement, realize that he does real presses as well. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 01:39:55 pm » |
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement? Damien, you have a bad habit of answering with really childish responses to serious meant questions. I was not trolling RJ here, because I am not a troll. I recognized that he is very damn strong in the press and asked why he would do handstand push-ups as assistance instead of light, higher volume presses because of the reason I stated above (better control over resistance). I was not going to imply that you cannot get strong with bodyweight movements. I just think that less ability to control resistance is a disadvantage in many cases, but probably not in this one for the reasons RJ posted. It is also an assistance movement, realize that he does real presses as well. aaaaand you take shit too seriously sometimes. funny video was funny. |
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steven-miller
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 01:41:39 pm » |
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aaaaand you take shit too seriously sometimes. funny video was funny.
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DamienZ
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 04:11:04 pm » |
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why was that childish? it was just meant to be a reminder that you can get rally strong without much barbell training. |
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