i think the previous few pages can be summed up like this:

raptor asked a question, and got a response he perceived to be "cloaked in secrecy" to promote project vertical. If i had not known cskin at all, perhaps I might have thought the same initially. Had raptor followed up with a question about specifics, cskin would have easily answered, that is what completely separates him from anyone shady. Most of us consider cskin very legit, and he definitely has no real stake in becoming a "vert program scammer", he's an engineer who just loves to train. He's just very humble about his results, actually too humble imo, would love to see more from him, which seems like we might just be getting that in the near future, he needs to brag a bit more and show people all of his hard work he's put in over the years, it does nothing but motivate others I remember him crushing some dunks way back on tvs, but nothing like he's doing now... He's definitely jumping higher than ever & deserves lots of respect for his dedication to athletic improvement.

pC