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« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2011, 08:01:50 pm » |
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Workout 1 Hang snatch - 3,2,1, 3,2,1 95 pounds, 100 pounds, 105 pounds, 110 pounds, 115 pounds, 155 pounds -hang shrug Full squat- 225x3, 225x3 270x3, 270x2, miss, 270 x1 RDL - 2x6, 1x5 330pounds Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds
Workout 2 Ramped 5's - 190,195,200,205,210,210 (6 sets of 5) 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 335 pounds
Notes/question - moved up from 3 reps at 270 to 6 reps. Hopefully I will meet my rep/set goal this next week.
Lance, on the full squat I had a couple questions. First, I am squatting 225 for 2 sets and 3 reps (after warming up a little) then jumping to 270 pounds. Is this an acceptable warmup weight? do 225 for 1 set of 3, then 250 for 1 rep, then 270 x _ Also, I squat to a 12" box to ensure depth consistency. Once I hit the box I try to reverse the weight as quickly as possible. I was wondering if you think this height is ok, I remember reading something you posted about being just below parallel, I'm not sure if that's too far under parallel or not.
If youre going to "hit" something I would prefer you use pins, lightly hitting the pins and focusing on insane reversal speed has some definite benefits and is a lot safer than hitting the box.
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« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2011, 10:52:40 pm » |
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Ok man, I just touch the box lightly, as soon as I feel it I reverse the weight. Also, is the depth at a 12" box ok? I can just that depth to the closest pin.
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« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2011, 12:53:28 am » |
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The depth is fine at 12 inch box if youre comfortable with it, if youre going to set pins which is a much better option for hitting something even if youre just lightly tapping it, set them about the same height as you would be on the 12 inch box on one of the days, then the next squat workout set them 1 inch above parallel and use more weight. That way you get the best of both worlds.
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« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2011, 08:32:30 am » |
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The depth is fine at 12 inch box if youre comfortable with it, if youre going to set pins which is a much better option for hitting something even if youre just lightly tapping it, set them about the same height as you would be on the 12 inch box on one of the days, then the next squat workout set them 1 inch above parallel and use more weight. That way you get the best of both worlds.
Ok man, so for the one day I am going an inch above parallel, I am assuming that would be for the ramped 5's day?
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« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2011, 12:38:38 am » |
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The depth is fine at 12 inch box if youre comfortable with it, if youre going to set pins which is a much better option for hitting something even if youre just lightly tapping it, set them about the same height as you would be on the 12 inch box on one of the days, then the next squat workout set them 1 inch above parallel and use more weight. That way you get the best of both worlds.
Ok man, so for the one day I am going an inch above parallel, I am assuming that would be for the ramped 5's day? doesnt matter which day, switch it up from time to time.
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« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2011, 02:27:19 pm » |
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Week 15 results Workout 1 Hang snatch - 3,2,1, 3,2,1 95 pounds, 100 pounds, 105 pounds, 110 pounds, 115 pounds, 155 pounds -hang shrug Full squat- 225x3, 225x3 270x3, 270x2, miss, 270 x2 RDL - 2x6, 1x5 330 pounds Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds Workout 2 Ramped 5's - 190,195,200,205,210,210 (6 sets of 5) 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 335 pounds Notes: Substituted pin squats for 12" full box squat, not really used to it. Also, added standing press on my two other workout days (not listed)
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« Reply #96 on: April 03, 2011, 09:34:05 pm » |
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Week 16 results Workout 1 Hang snatch - 3,2,1, 3,2,1 95 pounds, 100 pounds, 105 pounds, 110 pounds, 115 pounds, 135 pounds, miss 155 pounds -hang shrug Full squat- 225x3, 225x3 270x3, 270x2, miss, 270 x2, 250x3 RDL - 2x6, 1x5 330 pounds, miss Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds Workout 2 Ramped 5's - 275, 295, 305, 305, 305 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 342.5 pounds Notes - Lance, could you please help me with my routine? I haven't made progress on my major lifts- full squat, deadlift, hang snatch for the last two weeks. In one of the articles you said it talked about switching up exercises if you have two or more consecutive workouts without an increase in a rep or weight. I am trying my hardest and not really making progress on this routine anymore. I am not complaining, I really appreciate the help and obviously am very grateful to dunk with the programs you have made for me, I am just frustrated with my lack of results recently. I am getting 8-9 hours of sleep, loading up on creatine and protein but I am not really improving. Do you think Smolov Jr. would be a good idea for me? I was reading about it in some other people's logs and elsewhere and it seems like it would help my squat. Of course, I will do whatever you suggest, I am just really frustrated right now. I take full blame for my lack of progress, but I am giving it my all and really want to continue to improve, I just don't know how to go about it.
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« Reply #97 on: April 04, 2011, 01:04:30 am » |
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Workout 1 Hang snatch - 3,2,1, 3,2,1 95 pounds, 100 pounds, 105 pounds, 110 pounds, 115 pounds, 135 pounds, miss 155 pounds -hang shrug Full squat- 225x3, 225x3 270x3, 270x2, miss, 270 x2, 250x3 RDL - 2x6, 1x5 330 pounds, miss Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds
Workout 2 Ramped 5's - 275, 295, 305, 305, 305 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 342.5 pounds
Notes - Lance, could you please help me with my routine? I haven't made progress on my major lifts- full squat, deadlift, hang snatch for the last two weeks. In one of the articles you said it talked about switching up exercises if you have two or more consecutive workouts without an increase in a rep or weight.- There is tons of things you can do that will allow you to still pr, either from volume, load, or speed, one of them being doing an extra set when you dont beat your previous pr, after resting about 15 seconds, and get one or two more reps. You can change the movements too, but I would not change them drastically. Use a high pin squat, half squat level that allows you to use about 50lbs more on your squat, then use full squats the next workout. thats a start right there, no way you CANT pr or progress doing that. I am trying my hardest and not really making progress on this routine anymore. I am not complaining, I really appreciate the help and obviously am very grateful to dunk with the programs you have made for me, I am just frustrated with my lack of results recently. I am getting 8-9 hours of sleep, loading up on creatine and protein but I am not really improving. Do you think Smolov Jr. would be a good idea for me? I was reading about it in some other people's logs and elsewhere and it seems like it would help my squat. Of course, I will do whatever you suggest, I am just really frustrated right now. I take full blame for my lack of progress, but I am giving it my all and really want to continue to improve, I just don't know how to go about it.
See, this is thing, did you also look at how much those journals VERTICAL JUMP had increased? If you asked me for a workout to INCREASE YOUR SQUAT, I would have you doing a high frequency squat program (not percentage bullshit), and taking the other work that is aimed at increasing your jump out to allow more recovery FOR SQUATTING. Smolov is ok for some people, it is trash for others, there are much better options for high frequency squatting if youre main goal is increasing your squat though. Plateaus happen, the more advanced you get athletically, the more they will happen and the longer it will take to make gains, but you cant wait to LET gains happen for an extended period, you have to smash your previous numbers somehow, and MAKE shit happen. In all those articles, read the rest pause stuff, read the myo reps stuff, etc... there are TONS of options that would allow you to still be progressing, you just have to make sure you either a.) beat the previous number of reps in the same number of sets, b.)beat the previous load "weight", c.) beat the previous number of reps by adding a rest pause or myo rep style set at the end. Youre at a more advanced training stage now, gains are going to be slower regardless, but you have to MAKE them happen, those techniques that I listed are some easy options to get you moving forward if you want to use them.
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« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2011, 05:07:07 am » |
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Yeah man, you are absolutely right, I have not been incorporating some of these things (like rest-pause or myo) into my routine. I will be sure to try to do a rest-pause on my full squat and maybe move my other day to a half squat or at least an above parallel squat just focusing on increasing reps or weight with the above parallel squat. Yes, I know you were giving me a program to improve my vertical, I just thought that the squat kind of went along with it. I guess I just had been progressing so well initially that I didn't need to try anything new as of yet, but I think I am going to start using these methods now that I hit a wall. I really appreciate it, I feel stupid now that I asked but I am glad I asked becuase you helped me along the right road...can I still visit you at your gym sometime? lol Oh I was wondering too, on the above parallel squat, if I go for more reps on some weeks, would I want to try to go to failure or no?
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« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2011, 02:53:57 am » |
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Yeah man, you are absolutely right, I have not been incorporating some of these things (like rest-pause or myo) into my routine. I will be sure to try to do a rest-pause on my full squat and maybe move my other day to a half squat or at least an above parallel squat just focusing on increasing reps or weight with the above parallel squat. Yea, the more advanced you get in your training, the more things like that become a factor, and techniques like these, complexes, cluster sets, etc., become crucial to your progress. Thats also the reason many people never progress once they get to a certain level of advancement, and either quit or spin their wheels. ]quote]Yes, I know you were giving me a program to improve my vertical, I just thought that the squat kind of went along with it. I guess I just had been progressing so well initially that I didn't need to try anything new as of yet, but I think I am going to start using these methods now that I hit a wall.[/quote] yea, also remember that after your initial gains have happened, they wont be so linear. Sometimes you will have to work for a month to get a pr, then gain 30 lbs on your squat the next week, it rarely ever is an even distribution past the beginner stages of training. I really appreciate it, I feel stupid now that I asked but I am glad I asked becuase you helped me along the right road...can I still visit you at your gym sometime? lol of course.... Oh I was wondering too, on the above parallel squat, if I go for more reps on some weeks, would I want to try to go to failure or no?
failure as in, you go to a rep that you can no longer accelerate but is still do able, yes. failure as in you fall back down to the rack, no.
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« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2011, 03:53:09 pm » |
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Thanks man, I just have a few more questions: 1. On the above parallel squat, when you say use a weight that can no longer accelerate through, could you define accelerate a little more precisely? I reread a post you had talking about it but I still don't fully understand. I mean, I can move 100 pounds faster than 200, 200 faster than 300, I just don't know at what point to stop. Also, I was thinking about trying to do 7 sets of 5 on the inch above parallel squat and doing that until I can move more weight when I can accelerate through more weight (which I am still confused on the definition of) and wanted to see what you thought about this or if you had a suggestion as to what would be better. 2. I also went ahead and read all 800+ of your posts on here and saw something about a high protein, high fat, low carb diet for leanness. Do you think this would be a good idea or bad idea for me? I already get tons of protein, I just have a lot of carbs too. Right now I range from 9.5% to 10.5% body fat. I don't care about abs or anything, I just want to jump higher if that helps. 3. I haven't done plyometrics since early January. I was wondering when I should start doing them again (if ever). When does one normally make this determination? I am starting the rest-pause method right now as well so I don't know if this is the best time. 4. If my pull-ups and standing press start stalling out, should I use the rest-pause method for that as well? Is rest-pause just a good method to use once you start stalling out? After rest-pause is ineffective do you start going to myo...(sorry for lack of knowledge in this area) 5. I was going to see if I could visit you at your gym on the 16th on Saturday and wanted to see if this was an ok day, and if so, what time. I would need the address too.
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« Reply #101 on: April 05, 2011, 10:13:09 pm » |
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Thanks man, I just have a few more questions:
1. On the above parallel squat, when you say use a weight that can no longer accelerate through, could you define accelerate a little more precisely? I reread a post you had talking about it but I still don't fully understand. I mean, I can move 100 pounds faster than 200, 200 faster than 300, I just don't know at what point to stop. Also, I was thinking about trying to do 7 sets of 5 on the inch above parallel squat and doing that until I can move more weight when I can accelerate through more weight (which I am still confused on the definition of) and wanted to see what you thought about this or if you had a suggestion as to what would be better. a "weight you can accelerate" doesnt refer to a certain mph or speed that the weight can be lifted at, it means a weight that allows you to gain any amount of speed as you lift the weight throughout the rom. Basically it means a weight that you DONT STICK with. 2. I also went ahead and read all 800+ of your posts on here and saw something about a high protein, high fat, low carb diet for leanness. Do you think this would be a good idea or bad idea for me? I already get tons of protein, I just have a lot of carbs too. Right now I range from 9.5% to 10.5% body fat. I don't care about abs or anything, I just want to jump higher if that helps. If you are already 9.5-10.5 % you already can see your abdominals very well. If you had someone certified on calipers test it or did under water weighing, then its probably legit, if you used any other method, its probably not. And yes, that diet is awesome for athletes, you just have to keep the protein and fats high enough for your activity levels. 3. I haven't done plyometrics since early January. I was wondering when I should start doing them again (if ever). When does one normally make this determination? I am starting the rest-pause method right now as well so I don't know if this is the best time. Jump maximally (dunk, try to dunk, etc.), 2-3 times a week, 15-30 jumps to drop off, thats plenty right now, and its much more intense than most the low level reactive work that many call "plyos" right now. You dont need to do depth jumps or drops atm. 4. If my pull-ups and standing press start stalling out, should I use the rest-pause method for that as well? Is rest-pause just a good method to use once you start stalling out? After rest-pause is ineffective do you start going to myo...(sorry for lack of knowledge in this area) Rest pause is never ineffective, you can always progress, thats one of the best things about it, you have 3 sets to beat a rep total, either by number of reps, or weight. If you cant, add a myo rep style set at the end (15 sec rest after last rep of 3rd set, do 1-2 more reps) 5. I was going to see if I could visit you at your gym on the 16th on Saturday and wanted to see if this was an ok day, and if so, what time. I would need the address too.
that should be fine, I wont know until closer to that day what we have going so remind me a few days before.
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« Reply #102 on: April 06, 2011, 10:18:24 pm » |
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Lance, I am kind of new to the low carb diet. All the information I have found about low carb diets have been conflicting (no surprise there) so I thought I would just ask the man. I was wondering what you opinions were on bananas and milk. Should I incorporate these into my diet or not? I know bananas are high in carbs but also have a number of nutrients. Also, if these are ok, could you talk a little about how much is acceptable. I eat like 3 bananas a day and love milk as well. I can cut it out if you think it's a good idea, just wanted to know.
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« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2011, 10:20:00 pm » |
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Week 17 results Workout 1 Jump snatch - work up to 135 Full squat- 225x3, rest-pause at 260 singles x 10 sets RDL -3x6 320 pounds, Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds Workout 2 Inch above parallel squat, sets of 5 - 275, 290, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 350 pounds Notes - You won't believe this but I finally got to 135 on the jump snatch. I was hyped about this week's workout for the first time in like a month and think it's really going to help with LanceSTS in my corner. Also, I started the low carb diet. Goodbye bananas, goodbye milk, crepes, sushi, potato chips, hash browns, mashed potatoes, and most everything else I love. I did get George Stella's cookbook which has a lot of great low carb recipes and will keep me from not starving. Questions - 1. On the rest-pause I just started at 260 and took 15 deeps breaths. Should I move up to 265 and try 15 deep breaths in between sets? I watched a stopwatch and saw it took 33-42 seconds for 15 deep breaths. I could get the weight without very much difficulty. 2. On upper body days I am doing standing press, pull-ups, dips, core, and obviously my jumping. Would doing anything else help me? I used to do a lot of upper body stuff, like I was repping 205 on the bench, which is not great, but at 180 it was not too bad for me. I found that all the upper body stuff just wore me out though, I just want to jump higher I don't really care about anything else, but I don't want to short change myself if I can somehow jump higher through upper body stuff. 3. Should I only rest-pause on one exercise per workout? I read that in your article that this might be more effective.
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« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2011, 11:21:59 pm » |
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Workout 1 Jump snatch - work up to 135 Full squat- 225x3, rest-pause at 260 singles x 10 sets RDL -3x6 320 pounds, Standing calf raise (bounce) - 2x15, 275 pounds
Workout 2 Inch above parallel squat, sets of 5 - 275, 290, 300, 300, 300, 300, 300 1-2 jump squat, 4x3 - 85 pounds Reverse hypers - 3x8 Standing calf raise (pause) - 2x15, 350 pounds
Notes - You won't believe this but I finally got to 135 on the jump snatch. I was hyped about this week's workout for the first time in like a month and think it's really going to help with LanceSTS in my corner. Also, I started the low carb diet. Goodbye bananas, goodbye milk, crepes, sushi, potato chips, hash browns, mashed potatoes, and most everything else I love. I did get George Stella's cookbook which has a lot of great low carb recipes and will keep me from not starving. very nice workout! keep that mentality going now, realize that youre capable of a lot more, its a game of inches at this point so every time you gain a tiny bit like a 5lb pr, that goes a long way! MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR PROTEIN SKY HIGH WHILE YOU DO THIS LOW CARB DIET, YOU CAN GET VERY LEAN AND VERY STRONG IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. Questions -
1. On the rest-pause I just started at 260 and took 15 deeps breaths. Should I move up to 265 and try 15 deep breaths in between sets? I watched a stopwatch and saw it took 33-42 seconds for 15 deep breaths. I could get the weight without very much difficulty. go to 275 2. On upper body days I am doing standing press, pull-ups, dips, core, and obviously my jumping. Would doing anything else help me? I used to do a lot of upper body stuff, like I was repping 205 on the bench, which is not great, but at 180 it was not too bad for me. I found that all the upper body stuff just wore me out though, I just want to jump higher I don't really care about anything else, but I don't want to short change myself if I can somehow jump higher through upper body stuff. Youre bench press will go up as your press/pull ups go up, and the press is going to help you much more with vertical jumping. Press doesnt go up nearly as well from benching. efficient use of training resources is paramount here, so focus on increasing your press/pull ups, you can add in push press on one of the days in the place if you wish, its a great movement as well. 3. Should I only rest-pause on one exercise per workout? I read that in your article that this might be more effective.
Well there are two different styles of rest pause in that article, the one you used on your squat is more of a max strength (cluster) method, and the rep method is more of a hypertrophy/strength method. I would only use the max strength method on one movement per workout, and use the repetition method on the assistance work if you want to.
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