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Dreyth

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Getting a full body assessment
« on: December 09, 2015, 11:30:02 am »
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How do I go about getting a good one? I know I have some issues with my alignment and what not (right leg is more externally rotated than left, I have somewhat of a forward head posture, my left shoulder is rounded forward with a tight upper left trap, possibly tight pec minors and lats, etc). What I want to do is find a specialist in my city (NYC) that knows how to assess everything that's wrong with the posture and any potential pain an athlete is having, and then apply proper deep tissue and fascia work, as well as stretches to fix everything.

Thing is, I just don't know how to go about finding someone who knows how to do all this stuff. I mean I guess I can go to a chinese massage parlor and have them deep tissue any knot they find in my back. I found a spot with great reviews that charges $40 for a 45min massage. Not bad.

I'm willing to pay up to $120 for a 1 hour visit though. But this has to be with someone who will first do a full assessment on my body and give me a chart with all findings and how to correct them. Then s/he's gotta massage and stretch me and give me home stretches and foam rolling to focus on.

Seems easy for me to find places that "find all your knots" and other places that offer what seems to be a cookie cutter "sports massage" all over yelp. But how the heck do I find someone who assesses everything...
« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 11:33:14 am by Dreyth »
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 02:37:13 pm »
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Well, I went to this place:

http://msmwellness.com/

I got a free consultation and a free massage session. I went in today for the consultation. They took 4 xray shots of me. I told the chiropractor what I was there for: I wanted a full body assessment, then tell me what needs to be released, stretched, and activated. Then help me do those things. I showed him various imbalances that I have noticed myself.

Next session he will have some info about my xrays and perform an assessment and begin the stuff. That sessions is free too.

I should get my xrays emailed to me in a few days. I can post here.
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 04:19:00 pm »
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Watch out... The place you are going to might be great but chiropractic adjustments are essentially a sham and a bit dangerous... often they will find things that are not even wrong with you... hopefully yours is good though?

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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2015, 05:22:38 pm »
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Watch out... The place you are going to might be great but chiropractic adjustments are essentially a sham and a bit dangerous... often they will find things that are not even wrong with you... hopefully yours is good though?

I'm well aware of chiropractic practices being a huge sham. However, this place also touts itself as a sports massage therapy place. The workers and professionals there are all relatively young, so that makes me a little more comfortable. But if they have me doing retarded back cracks and stuff, I'll be out of there in no time.

If they don't directly address postural issues that I KNOW I have, without me telling them, I'm also out of there. My left upper trap is overactive, for example. My lats are very tight. If they don't do this test:



Or something like this: http://b-reddy.org/2011/08/04/3-common-tight-muscles/

then I'll be gone. My right leg externally rotates more than my left. My right tricep is way tighter than my left. If they don't catch these inconsistencies, I'll be gone.

So I guess I have a way of assessing their assessing skills  :P
« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 05:28:56 pm by Dreyth »
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2015, 06:40:48 pm »
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I sent this guy an email. He seems to know all his shit. His website is crappy, but he clearly knows what he's talking about. Here is a postural assessment he did:

http://b-reddy.org/2013/02/06/example-of-a-postural-assessment-2/

Also a very comprehensive breakdown on the best way to stretch your IT band here:

http://b-reddy.org/2012/03/04/the-best-damn-it-band-stretch-ever/
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2015, 04:06:49 pm »
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I sent this guy an email. He seems to know all his shit. His website is crappy, but he clearly knows what he's talking about. Here is a postural assessment he did:

http://b-reddy.org/2013/02/06/example-of-a-postural-assessment-2/

Also a very comprehensive breakdown on the best way to stretch your IT band here:

http://b-reddy.org/2012/03/04/the-best-damn-it-band-stretch-ever/

So that guy responded. He charges $155 for a month of remote work. $125 after that. I'm going to do it. I may make this thread a prehab/posture log, and i'll post before and after photos of everything. Everyone can learn from this thread.

I basically send him all necessary pics and vids and he will assess me based on them. Every now and then I update him with more pics and vids, and if any pains persists or whatever. So I guess this isn't someone who will actually be there to give me a deep tissue massage, but that's fine. I'm getting assessed which is the most important part, and I can do whatever foam rolls and stretches he tells me to do. I can pay $30 to have some asian deep tissue massage me, and I'll tell them which muscles to hit if foam rolling is not enough.
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2015, 10:29:04 pm »
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Got my free Xrays from the chiropractors/sports massage office:





Looks like my spine bows to one side ever so slightly.

I will update with postural photos soon. My natural posture isn't so good. Practically, my posture is decent because I put in a conscious effort all day when I walk around to walk upright. But when I'm fully relaxed, its' not so good.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2015, 10:34:33 pm by Dreyth »
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 03:56:15 pm »
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Sent the guy at http://b-reddy.org/ postural photos as well as my Xrays. He will respond with an assessment of my body, or more likely ask for some vids from me doing various movements if he needs to see more.

So from him I'll be told what is short, long, dormant, active, and how to correct all of that. And why those methods are effective for my specific issues. That's the most important part! I'm really impressed with his write-up on the best way to stretch the IT band, as well as many other things he's written about on his site.

When I get a response I'll update.
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 12:30:13 am »
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super curious to hear what the b-reddy dude says about ITB stretching, because, as pointed out here, https://www.painscience.com/articles/iliotibial-band-syndrome-stretch.php, it's very difficult even to do at all, let alone with any kind of effect.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 01:54:11 am »
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He hits on many points in the article you posted, and also the IT band stretch he proposes is really a TFL stretch.

But damn... It can only lengthen half a percent? Personally i completely forgot that muscles can lengthen at all. I thought their resting positions didnt change, but rather they can simply be stretched further. They have more "give" thats all.
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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 10:09:35 am »
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wait what? of course muscles can lengthen. lengthening and shortening is what they do (relaxing and contracting). the ITB is not a muscle.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
wednesday: fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Getting a full body assessment
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 02:09:14 pm »
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wait what? of course muscles can lengthen. lengthening and shortening is what they do (relaxing and contracting). the ITB is not a muscle.

Oh i know they lengthen! I'm just saying i always forget that's whats happening when we stretch them. My brain usually goes "the muscle is just more flexible now. the length is the same, but it will be less resistent to stretching now."
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