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Performance Area => Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros => Topic started by: Raptor on October 02, 2012, 07:39:00 am

Title: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 02, 2012, 07:39:00 am
OK so I had last night a blood pressure of 160 with 91... (at about 2:30 AM) - wtf do I do with this very high number? Does anybody here have such high blood pressure numbers? I mean think about it - if I have such a number while resting you can imagine where it goes when I'm training, heavy squatting or running/playing ball.

No wonder I get dizzy doing any of these activities.

Any ideas? I know, less salt, but other than that?

I'm also taking creatine and apparently, there's a connection between high blood pressure and unfunctional kidneys so... maybe I'm punishing my kidneys too much with the creatine as well?
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: entropy on October 02, 2012, 08:09:03 am
Are you snorting salt or something? How much we talking?
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 02, 2012, 09:26:41 am
doubt you've taken enough creatine to fuck with your kidneys that severely. how often do you measure BP? did you do the reading at home or was it done at the doctor's office?

if at home, take it again in the morning, right after you wake up. get up and pee if you have to go and then go back to bed and lie down for five minutes or so before taking it. 161/90 is high but it's not at danger level for someone your age unless it becomes chronic. about six years ago i got measured at like 150/90 at the doctor, repeated on a few visits. she freaked out a little and ordered lots more tests and shit: x-rays, MRI. then i left for chile and spent a whole year taking my own measurements like every two or three days. it was consistently 138/85 or so, which is still way too high.

but then i got back, went back to the doc, and my BP was 120/70. five years later, got it measured last week when i went in for being sick and it was 122/80. so it was just a false alarm.

TLDR: don't worry yet.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 02, 2012, 10:15:01 am
Thanks for the replies guys. This is a very serious issue. I had 140/80 when I was 14 years old, basically in eight grade. I'm feeling ill (tired, dizzy, "weird", weak etc etc etc) every day since ~21 years old and not surprisingly, since I'm at a very high blood pressure ever since then.

No wonder I feel like passing out after squatting or playing aggressive basketball defense for example. Even staying in my home I'm dizzy and stuff like that. Granted that might just be anxiety/because I go to sleep late etc, but still - I'd be able to say it's just anxiety etc if I had a normal blood pressure number.

When I come home from lifting/basketball I usually feel much better, probably I dehydrate myself a bit etc and my blood pressure goes down.

I took it this morning right after waking up - it was 150 by 85.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 02, 2012, 01:37:02 pm
so....see a doctor? this has been a problem for a long time and a medical professional has never given you any kind of advice or diagnosis?
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 02, 2012, 03:37:51 pm
so....see a doctor? this has been a problem for a long time and a medical professional has never given you any kind of advice or diagnosis?

They did. He said "exercise more". I was like "right...".
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 02, 2012, 04:32:28 pm
so either you saw an idiot doctor or this is not as concerning as you think. try another doctor?
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 02, 2012, 04:39:22 pm
Probably^^^

I took my blood pressure again keeping my arm in a different position and I had a much lower value so... no idea.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 03, 2012, 10:04:33 am
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 03, 2012, 11:18:08 am
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.

If I let my arm rest against something (like the margin of a table) in an effort to relax my biceps, the value grows from 13 to ~15.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 03, 2012, 11:23:41 am
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.

If I let my arm rest against something (like the margin of a table) in an effort to relax my biceps, the value grows from 13 to ~15.

value of what? i always took my bp lying down, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 03, 2012, 12:01:30 pm
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.

If I let my arm rest against something (like the margin of a table) in an effort to relax my biceps, the value grows from 13 to ~15.

value of what? i always took my bp lying down, for what it's worth.

The high value. I think it's the systolic pressure. If you have 150 with 85, I mean the "150".
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: entropy on October 03, 2012, 12:13:49 pm
The high value. I think it's the systolic pressure. If you have 150 with 85, I mean the "150".

Whats a good front squat to systolic pressure ratio for athletes?
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 03, 2012, 12:31:24 pm
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.

If I let my arm rest against something (like the margin of a table) in an effort to relax my biceps, the value grows from 13 to ~15.

value of what? i always took my bp lying down, for what it's worth.

The high value. I think it's the systolic pressure. If you have 150 with 85, I mean the "150".

then why did you omit the 0's? whatever, anyway, that's weird. also, yes, the higher number is systolic.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 03, 2012, 12:36:29 pm
arm as relaxed as possible and roughly at heart level, yes.

If I let my arm rest against something (like the margin of a table) in an effort to relax my biceps, the value grows from 13 to ~15.

value of what? i always took my bp lying down, for what it's worth.

The high value. I think it's the systolic pressure. If you have 150 with 85, I mean the "150".

then why did you omit the 0's? whatever, anyway, that's weird. also, yes, the higher number is systolic.

Because here we don't say "you have 153 by 84", we say "you have 15.3 by 8.4"

I think it's mm of hg (mercury).
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: LBSS on October 03, 2012, 12:40:10 pm
oh, well, that makes sense.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 04, 2012, 05:04:11 pm
163 by 95 if I remember right, 20 minutes after coming home from the gym.
138 by 65 and 140 by 67 ~10 minutes after taking Xanax.

brb Xanax

It could be anxiety-induced high blood pressure... not sure.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: TKXII on October 10, 2012, 12:39:58 pm
Restricting salt does not lower blood pressure. -> really long article didn't read it but check it out http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~census/573.pdf
 (http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~census/573.pdf)

 You need sodium. Instead think about your potassium intake. Veggies, and fruits come into play here.
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/290/3/R546.full (http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/290/3/R546.full)

But yes it's probably nothing related to diet or exercise. Just anxiety and stress. that's my guess. try sleeping before 11 and waking at sunrise for 1 month straight see if that works.

Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: TKXII on October 10, 2012, 12:45:50 pm
Use headphones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vas8OdHZKcw
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 10, 2012, 03:24:56 pm
I think I'd get crazy after listening this a few minutes ^^^
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: TKXII on October 10, 2012, 07:17:08 pm
try it for at least 20 minutes. just sit, close eyes, feet flat on floor or cross-legged. back straight.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: adarqui on October 10, 2012, 11:35:33 pm
high blood pressure runs in my family, i've tested really high on a few occasions... really low on others, so i stopped caring.

i had ~160 over ~90 once during a 'fitness fair' that the hospital setup.. measured by two diff ladies.

i was in insane shape then too, that was when i boxed.. was very weird.
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: Raptor on October 11, 2012, 04:48:46 am
Probably anxiety related ^^^
Title: Re: High blood pressure
Post by: adarqui on October 11, 2012, 10:01:01 am
Probably anxiety related ^^^

maybe..

i do remember it being very cold (hospital setting), and i was ~147/~7% body fat, absolutely shredded (had been shivering on occasion like a little wet dog)

probably had something to do with it.. lul