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what's up
« on: August 16, 2011, 01:19:54 am »
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Re: what's up
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 05:16:22 am »
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BODY TYPE: Athletic but kind of skinny. 8.9% body fat (little belly fat...) Asian

Not possible!


HEIGHT: 6"0
wingspan: 6"1
CURRENT ABILITY: only dunked with one hand two times. standing vertical 29" running vertical one leg: 31" two legs: 30"

Not possible!


What should I do? How am I going to design a program that fit myself.

http://www.adarq.org/forum/performance-training-blog/an-introductory-block/


 :welcome:  :P
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: what's up
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 03:36:47 pm »
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I meant that it is :
-Impossible to have 8.9% bodyfat and have some belly fat , 8.9% is seriously ripped!
-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.
Not saying you are lying , you just probably got some numbers wrong.
peace
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: what's up
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 03:42:25 pm »
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What did you do to measure your body fat %.  Unless you got it tested with calipers by someone very experienced with using them, you probably got a misread.  If you used electronic devices that send pulses through your body, they are as reliable as shit.  I am ~12-13%, but those devices said I was 5% LOLLL.  Even if you used calipers, there is room for error.

Vag, maybe he has a small head and short neck, and his shoulders are at a much higher starting point than yours? LOLLL
Goal is to dunk.

Vertical needed to dunk: 40"

Current vertical : 38.5"

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Re: what's up
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 04:15:25 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 04:29:05 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: what's up
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 04:41:20 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2011, 04:43:16 pm by Ineedtodunk »
Goal is to dunk.

Vertical needed to dunk: 40"

Current vertical : 38.5"

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Re: what's up
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 04:51:56 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.

7'11 reach for me as well. But if I have a 6'2 wingspan and you have a 6'5 wingspan (how do you have such a HUGE wingspan?!?!) how can we reach the same height? You must have a really high neck and long head or something, so the 6'5 wingspan loses length to cover that distance. WTF :ninja:

BTW - I can't dunk without palming the ball. Not even at lower rims.

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Re: what's up
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 05:02:03 pm »
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-Impossible to be 6' / 6'1'' wingspan / 31'' maximum running vert and be able to dunk 10'. I am 6'1'' with 6'5'' wingspan and i still need ~34'' to dunk.

Huh? I'm 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan and I can dunk with a ~30 inch vert. I just need to get my thumb of the palming hand over the rim and that's it.

WTF?  You would have to palm the ball damn good , and i still doubt you could do it. What is your standing reach? Mine is 7'11'', 30'' is only 10'5'' for me.
Generally i'd say you need 8 - 10 inches above rim to dunk clean , i'd accept 7'' with perfect palming and timing and everything, but 5'' is pushing it too much.


On a SLRVJ, you don't really lose height on your jump with the ball, and I agree with Raptor, you can (not all the time) but dunk with 5-6inches over the rim.  If you have a powerful arm swing with the ball, the ball with hover on your fingers (not palm)and you can swing it hard to dunk it without losing control of the ball.  No?

I have dunked clean on a 9'6" rim before when I was jumping 35" at max (10'0" touch) using what I described above.

7'11 reach for me as well. But if I have a 6'2 wingspan and you have a 6'5 wingspan (how do you have such a HUGE wingspan?!?!) how can we reach the same height? You must have a really high neck and long head or something, so the 6'5 wingspan loses length to cover that distance. WTF :ninja:

BTW - I can't dunk without palming the ball. Not even at lower rims.

Raptor indeed i have long neck & head. Btw , i am 6'1'' in bball shoes , barefoot height is just below 6' ( 182.5cm ) , loooong hands!

Ineedtodunk  good point, Kellyb discusses that technique in this article : http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/lastlittlebit.html
Personally i can't use that , to get clean dunks at a rim i need to be able to get ~9'' above it without the ball. And if i can't palm the ball i need like 10-12 inches above , for cuffed one-handers or two-handers.
I probably just suck at dunking, LOL
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: what's up
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 05:22:58 pm »
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Switch to palmed one-leg dunks :D

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Re: what's up
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 05:53:50 am »
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Well , there you go!
This has gone too long , but 7'7'' + 31''= 10'2''
There is no way in this world you can dunk 10' when you can reach 2'' above the rim.
So when you dunked you jumped higher , even with raptor's extreme claim of dunking with only 5'' above the rim you would still need 34'' to dunk.
Sometimes it happens, the runup & plant are just perfect and you get a crazy PR jump. This is much more probable to happen on a single leg jump too because of the reactive nature of it , double leg jumps have much less fluctuation.

Ok , enough hijacking...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?