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...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« on: December 19, 2010, 01:08:36 am »
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Hey guys. Just sayin' what's up now that I'm finally posting. I was on Vertfreak101's forum for a good while but that place is pretty much dead now and nobody got my sense of humor. Hopefully, this place will find me slightly funnier, and stay active. I don't have my doubts on either one of those.

Anyways, glad to be here. Hopefully I can figure out some things to help me with my effed up knees. I always read a lot of what Lance posted on VF so I know he knows his stuff, and if he approves of this forum, I suppose it's okay.

Okay. Stop reading.
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Re: ...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 03:16:37 am »
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welcome man

Hey guys. Just sayin' what's up now that I'm finally posting. I was on Vertfreak101's forum for a good while but that place is pretty much dead now and nobody got my sense of humor. Hopefully, this place will find me slightly funnier, and stay active. I don't have my doubts on either one of those.

LOL

:)

interested to see the 'sense of humour' they didn't get.. for what it's worth, the topic you picked for your intro is funny, office space ftw.



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Anyways, glad to be here. Hopefully I can figure out some things to help me with my effed up knees. I always read a lot of what Lance posted on VF so I know he knows his stuff, and if he approves of this forum, I suppose it's okay.

Okay. Stop reading.

what's up with your knees?

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 03:17:45 am »
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i switched from VF over here. It is alot more active and got a great sense of humor, you'll fit in bro

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Re: ...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 12:37:45 pm »
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welcome man

interested to see the 'sense of humour' they didn't get.. for what it's worth, the topic you picked for your intro is funny, office space ftw.

Thanks, glad someone can pick up on the Office Space quote. I can't read a sentence starting with 'yeeaahhh' without thinking about Bill Lumberg. Even his annoying voice comes into my head at that exact time.



what's up with your knees?

pc

Well, after 5 different knee surgeries, and early effects of severe arthritis. And currently dealing with a stress fracture in my right knee cap...again, I simply cannot perform lately. On the court or in the weight room. It's really affecting the way I play. I'm not the most athletic guy, but typically I'm the only guy that combine any kind of skill and athleticism, but lately, that athleticism has been non-existent thanks to my knees, especially my right one with the stress fracture. I've been taking weeks at a time off to give it time to heal (I'm not playing again until the 2nd week of January), but the problem with that is I don't know how to properly strengthen and train my legs without putting any stress on my knees. I can't squat, I can't do heavy knee extensions because of the amount of stress it puts on my kneecaps and their lack of cartilage in there.

I need to find new ways to strengthen, without stressing my knees/legs before it's too late for me to come back from all of this.

I'll have plenty of time to start working out after the holidays as I just picked up a 2nd job (1st job is window cleaning, but that's so slow during the winter) and I'll be running my school's new campus weight room...so literally, it can be my job to work out if I want to.

I'm open to any and all suggestions. The things I'm doing right now are basically just yoga and stretching. I've heard you can lessen the stress on your knees if you're more flexible, and I can definitely use more flexibility. Also, bought and started using a foam roller per Lance's suggestions on VF's forum; still getting used to that. Any help is much appreciated.

i switched from VF over here. It is alot more active and got a great sense of humor, you'll fit in bro

Thanks dude. Did you end up getting banned again from VF? haha.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 05:44:05 pm »
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Nope, I got unbanned. I have yet to get banned "again" but I feel it's going to happen.

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Re: ...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 06:09:20 pm »
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 Glad to see you here JPP, welcome man! :welcome:
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Re: ...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 06:21:16 pm »
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welcome man

interested to see the 'sense of humour' they didn't get.. for what it's worth, the topic you picked for your intro is funny, office space ftw.

Thanks, glad someone can pick up on the Office Space quote. I can't read a sentence starting with 'yeeaahhh' without thinking about Bill Lumberg. Even his annoying voice comes into my head at that exact time.

The lumberg sex scene (in the dream) was the best, shit still has me lol'n.




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what's up with your knees?

pc

Well, after 5 different knee surgeries, and early effects of severe arthritis. And currently dealing with a stress fracture in my right knee cap...again, I simply cannot perform lately. On the court or in the weight room. It's really affecting the way I play. I'm not the most athletic guy, but typically I'm the only guy that combine any kind of skill and athleticism, but lately, that athleticism has been non-existent thanks to my knees, especially my right one with the stress fracture. I've been taking weeks at a time off to give it time to heal (I'm not playing again until the 2nd week of January), but the problem with that is I don't know how to properly strengthen and train my legs without putting any stress on my knees. I can't squat, I can't do heavy knee extensions because of the amount of stress it puts on my kneecaps and their lack of cartilage in there.

holy shit..........

damn sounds like you really need to be careful.. If you aren't going to train "knee bends", I would look into EMS, though I'm not sure how effective home bought versions can be on strengthening the quads.

As for "less stressful knee exercises", you're looking at alot of floor variations:
- glute bridges (double and single leg)
- prone glute
- prone hyper
- supine hamstring iso (various degrees of knee flexion, just holding position, hits hams hard)
- supine hip extensions (stiff legged, feet on box)

As for weighted exercises that don't put much stress on the patella, you're looking at:
- reverse hyper
- RDL
- leg curls (standing, seated, whatever)
- POSSIBLY ghr..
- some stuff on 4-way hip machine

stretching too much can actually become a problem, if the muscles of the quads stop firing correctly, need to make sure VMO is firing good and before the VL.. floor based tke's (last 15 degrees, terminal knee extension), partner assisted, or very light tke on a leg extension can help to get that vmo firing but you definitely don't want to mess with that stress fracture.. once that stress fracture heals you'll need to build some strong/active vmo's to protect the patella.



any idea how you actually got this stress fracture? I mean is it just from jumping too much? When did you "feel" it occur? Any ideas on that?


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I need to find new ways to strengthen, without stressing my knees/legs before it's too late for me to come back from all of this.

I'll have plenty of time to start working out after the holidays as I just picked up a 2nd job (1st job is window cleaning, but that's so slow during the winter) and I'll be running my school's new campus weight room...so literally, it can be my job to work out if I want to.

I'm open to any and all suggestions. The things I'm doing right now are basically just yoga and stretching. I've heard you can lessen the stress on your knees if you're more flexible, and I can definitely use more flexibility. Also, bought and started using a foam roller per Lance's suggestions on VF's forum; still getting used to that. Any help is much appreciated.

i switched from VF over here. It is alot more active and got a great sense of humor, you'll fit in bro

Thanks dude. Did you end up getting banned again from VF? haha.

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Re: ...yeahhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday...
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 11:27:57 pm »
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holy shit..........

damn sounds like you really need to be careful.. If you aren't going to train "knee bends", I would look into EMS, though I'm not sure how effective home bought versions can be on strengthening the quads.

As for "less stressful knee exercises", you're looking at alot of floor variations:
- glute bridges (double and single leg)
- prone glute
- prone hyper
- supine hamstring iso (various degrees of knee flexion, just holding position, hits hams hard)
- supine hip extensions (stiff legged, feet on box)

As for weighted exercises that don't put much stress on the patella, you're looking at:
- reverse hyper
- RDL
- leg curls (standing, seated, whatever)
- POSSIBLY ghr..
- some stuff on 4-way hip machine

stretching too much can actually become a problem, if the muscles of the quads stop firing correctly, need to make sure VMO is firing good and before the VL.. floor based tke's (last 15 degrees, terminal knee extension), partner assisted, or very light tke on a leg extension can help to get that vmo firing but you definitely don't want to mess with that stress fracture.. once that stress fracture heals you'll need to build some strong/active vmo's to protect the patella.



any idea how you actually got this stress fracture? I mean is it just from jumping too much? When did you "feel" it occur? Any ideas on that?

Well, I'm pretty sure it's from playing too much as well as already having pretty shot knees after all my surgeries. It's something that just develops, and I notice it...but I don't stop. For example, when I started feeling the pain back in October, I played 13x in 1 week. Not 2 weeks, not a month. 13x in 1 week. And I don't rest properly or take care of my knees enough in between sessions. I'm learning the hard way to develop my routine and adjust to my bum knees. But I think the best thing right now is just to shut down for a few more weeks. I have 1 volleyball game Wednesday, and then that season is over until next year. So that will be my last active day for a while.

What is prone hyper and reverse hyper? Also, what is a 4-way hip machine? Is that the thing that makes it look like you're swinging your leg some times?
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 05:24:38 pm »
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holy shit..........

damn sounds like you really need to be careful.. If you aren't going to train "knee bends", I would look into EMS, though I'm not sure how effective home bought versions can be on strengthening the quads.

As for "less stressful knee exercises", you're looking at alot of floor variations:
- glute bridges (double and single leg)
- prone glute
- prone hyper
- supine hamstring iso (various degrees of knee flexion, just holding position, hits hams hard)
- supine hip extensions (stiff legged, feet on box)

As for weighted exercises that don't put much stress on the patella, you're looking at:
- reverse hyper
- RDL
- leg curls (standing, seated, whatever)
- POSSIBLY ghr..
- some stuff on 4-way hip machine

stretching too much can actually become a problem, if the muscles of the quads stop firing correctly, need to make sure VMO is firing good and before the VL.. floor based tke's (last 15 degrees, terminal knee extension), partner assisted, or very light tke on a leg extension can help to get that vmo firing but you definitely don't want to mess with that stress fracture.. once that stress fracture heals you'll need to build some strong/active vmo's to protect the patella.



any idea how you actually got this stress fracture? I mean is it just from jumping too much? When did you "feel" it occur? Any ideas on that?

Well, I'm pretty sure it's from playing too much as well as already having pretty shot knees after all my surgeries. It's something that just develops, and I notice it...but I don't stop. For example, when I started feeling the pain back in October, I played 13x in 1 week. Not 2 weeks, not a month. 13x in 1 week. And I don't rest properly or take care of my knees enough in between sessions. I'm learning the hard way to develop my routine and adjust to my bum knees. But I think the best thing right now is just to shut down for a few more weeks. I have 1 volleyball game Wednesday, and then that season is over until next year. So that will be my last active day for a while.

damn.... 13x in 1 week when feeling the pain come back, ya it sounds like you are a "chronic overdoer", gotta fix that.. put health first man or your longevity could vary will disappear very soon.

:/

i remember your dunk vids from not so long ago you were getting up real good.






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What is prone hyper and reverse hyper?

if you don't have access to a reverse hyper, you can use a prone reverse hyper variation:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fsqy0wXHkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fsqy0wXHkM</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHyWPWoEQ0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHyWPWoEQ0</a>


check some of his other vids, and the 7 day vertical jump cure (7DVJC), he has some nice exercises.







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Also, what is a 4-way hip machine? Is that the thing that makes it look like you're swinging your leg some times?

ya

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpcnwu1SNc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpcnwu1SNc</a>



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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 10:19:51 pm »
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Just watched your vids, they are INSANE!!!  :o

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrS1gGs0a7M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrS1gGs0a7M</a>

whoa!!!

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 01:46:47 am »
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@Adarqui - Thanks man, I'll give those exercises some run and see how they do. And I'm definitely taking a break. I have my volleyball game tomorrow and then nothing until mid-January. My knees just can't handle it anymore.

@BMully - Thanks man, that was one of the best dunks of my career. The funny thing is, even though we practice it a TON in workouts and practice; we'd never actually gotten a dunk off of that play until that very moment. It was a momentum shifter too! It put us up by 1 and we ended up winning by 8. It was one of the best games I had too. Ended up with 3 blocks away from a quadruple double in that game. Had the pts, rbs and asts...but oh so close on blocks. The other team wasn't that good, but 3 of our starts (minus me and my point guard) were sick and out of the game so we had to start two freshmen and a sophmore. The end result was okay. :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 08:52:17 pm »
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Office space quote = awesome. :)
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