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adarqui

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Re: STS TV
« Reply #90 on: October 06, 2012, 12:42:51 pm »
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Hi

I just went to the gym i was going to do the squats but i wanted a spotter, the spotter guy said feet pointing forward, when i have it point slightly outwards and slightly bigger than shoulder width, very slightly.
He says not lean forward when going down, but bend your knees instead and also look up and stick chest out, and shoulders back, that didn't help when sticking my chest out my back almost collapsed inwards because of the weight.

your "spotter" gave you typical gymbro advice..

"don't lead forward + look up + bend at the knees" = lmao.

The only thing you had to do, based on your form video, was "inflate" your chest by taking in a deep breath. Your torso angle + chest was fine.. Feet + head position was fine. Looking up is a horrible cue to give somebody. That's oldschool highschool weightroom lore, when in fact looking up can result in injury due to hyperextension of the lumbar or cervical spine.. Looking down at an angle = neutral.

Did you ever see these people squat? No idea if you have or not, but most of these people who give out squat advice have horrendous form.


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I was trying my way but trying hard to keep chest up and i wanted  a spotter and that was the guy who commented.

Just do it your way next time and tell your spotter "this is the way I was coached".


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As for the RDL i saw that you bend slightly over as well as bring your butt back by bending knees and keep back straight and go down and up but another guy in the gym said that's not right even though i didn't feel any pain on my back, he said feet close together, stick butt out when going down, when i try that the ball rubs against my shins and knee don't like that.

he was telling you to do an extremely narrow stance RDL? different exercise..


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I can't record myself, as i only have mobile phone to record me and i don't know who is going to hold it as only members only in the gym.

The process i go through is feet apart slightly more than shoulder width, feet point slightly outwards. go down by bringing but slightly back and down. Then go up but also concentrate on keep chest in front, sometimes it dropped sometimes it was ok.

RDL, when i go down, i stick but back, lean over, bend knees, keep back straight and locked. go down and go up no problem of rubbing.

well, imo, to 'lower youself', it's all from pushing your hips back.. so 'lean over' can be misinterpreted.. you don't want to be actively leaning over, instead you want to lean entirely due to pushing your hips back.



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When i have weight on my back i can't seem to get my chest high like they do in the army, because that way either the bar tries to roll off, or my back is arched and will start to collapse under the weight.

are they right? or am i right but just need to fix my chest up.

they sound way off..

Be careful of who you listen to in a gym. Seems like these guys wrecked your whole workout.

Honestly, these adviceBros in various gyms are almost like 'child predators'. They are always trying to take younger people under their "Wing" and "guide them" to who knows what.

pc

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Re: STS TV
« Reply #91 on: October 06, 2012, 02:22:19 pm »
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Hi

I just went to the gym i was going to do the squats but i wanted a spotter, the spotter guy said feet pointing forward, when i have it point slightly outwards and slightly bigger than shoulder width, very slightly.
He says not lean forward when going down, but bend your knees instead and also look up and stick chest out, and shoulders back, that didn't help when sticking my chest out my back almost collapsed inwards because of the weight.

your "spotter" gave you typical gymbro advice..

"don't lead forward + look up + bend at the knees" = lmao.

lol lmfao

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The only thing you had to do, based on your form video, was "inflate" your chest by taking in a deep breath. Your torso angle + chest was fine.. Feet + head position was fine. Looking up is a horrible cue to give somebody. That's oldschool highschool weightroom lore, when in fact looking up can result in injury due to hyperextension of the lumbar or cervical spine.. Looking down at an angle = neutral.

Did you ever see these people squat? No idea if you have or not, but most of these people who give out squat advice have horrendous form.

I saw them squat and their abdomen was dissapearing behind their thighs kind of like  :ibsquatting: but since their leg was bit closer and pointing their toes forward bending knee forward instead of outward, stomach was close to their thighs.

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I was trying my way but trying hard to keep chest up and i wanted  a spotter and that was the guy who commented.

Just do it your way next time and tell your spotter "this is the way I was coached".

lol, yeah i will tell them that next time

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As for the RDL i saw that you bend slightly over as well as bring your butt back by bending knees and keep back straight and go down and up but another guy in the gym said that's not right even though i didn't feel any pain on my back, he said feet close together, stick butt out when going down, when i try that the ball rubs against my shins and knee don't like that.

he was telling you to do an extremely narrow stance RDL? different exercise..


that's what i was thinking whether he was thinking i was doing another exercise

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I can't record myself, as i only have mobile phone to record me and i don't know who is going to hold it as only members only in the gym.

The process i go through is feet apart slightly more than shoulder width, feet point slightly outwards. go down by bringing but slightly back and down. Then go up but also concentrate on keep chest in front, sometimes it dropped sometimes it was ok.

RDL, when i go down, i stick but back, lean over, bend knees, keep back straight and locked. go down and go up no problem of rubbing.

well, imo, to 'lower youself', it's all from pushing your hips back.. so 'lean over' can be misinterpreted.. you don't want to be actively leaning over, instead you want to lean entirely due to pushing your hips back.

I will try what you said, do i have to keep my chest up, or would that cause hyperextension


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When i have weight on my back i can't seem to get my chest high like they do in the army, because that way either the bar tries to roll off, or my back is arched and will start to collapse under the weight.

are they right? or am i right but just need to fix my chest up.

they sound way off..

Be careful of who you listen to in a gym. Seems like these guys wrecked your whole workout.

Honestly, these adviceBros in various gyms are almost like 'child predators'. They are always trying to take younger people under their "Wing" and "guide them" to who knows what.

pc

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« Last Edit: October 06, 2012, 02:24:47 pm by seifullaah73 »
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Note for self:
A
>>    Jump Squats
>>    Half Squats
>>    Partials at the bottom: 3-5 x 15 (very controlled)
>>    Calf Raises
>>    RDL
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>> B
>>    Jump Squats
>>    Half Squats
>>    Squat singles x 10, reset between reps, just working on hitting
>> depth comfortably with moderate loads
>>    Calf Raises
>>    RDL
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Re: STS TV
« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2012, 03:22:15 pm »
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lol

my thoughts exactly adarqui. I subscribe to what you wrote 100%.

In fact, I could say a thing or two to people in the gym but I don't want to become what I criticize so I shut the hell up.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2012, 03:24:26 pm by Raptor »

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Re: STS TV
« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2012, 05:50:22 pm »
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Lance, maybe you already answered this but I couldn't find it on adarq.org. I noticed the single leg bounds your girlfriend performed, and noticed she performed them on concrete. Does she do this all the time? How do you feel about performing single leg bounds on concrete? The reason I'm asking because I don't have an area where I can perform bounds other than conc rete ground. Since I'm from europe, it's raining here all the time so grass is no good...

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Re: STS TV
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2012, 06:05:01 pm »
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Lance, maybe you already answered this but I couldn't find it on adarq.org. I noticed the single leg bounds your girlfriend performed, and noticed she performed them on concrete. Does she do this all the time? How do you feel about performing single leg bounds on concrete? The reason I'm asking because I don't have an area where I can perform bounds other than conc rete ground. Since I'm from europe, it's raining here all the time so grass is no good...

nah that was just for the video, any notable volume of bounds were done on grass most of the time.  If youre doing a lower volume of it you can get away with it, just make sure to do things like heel walks regularly to help prevent shin splints etc.
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Re: STS TV
« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2012, 06:40:11 pm »
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Thanks for the reply! How do you feel about single leg hurdle jumps (multiple reps of course) for improving single leg jumping, this instead of bounding?

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Re: STS TV
« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2012, 03:01:26 am »
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Thanks for the reply! How do you feel about single leg hurdle jumps (multiple reps of course) for improving single leg jumping, this instead of bounding?

 They are a nice exercise to implement, but should be used early on in the training cycle as a progression towards all out bounding imo. 
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Re: STS TV
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2012, 03:26:36 am »
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They probably have a bigger quad involvement IMO, just like one-leg depth jumps, do to their more vertical movements.