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Title: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: adarqui on March 09, 2010, 06:26:09 pm
man he doesn't have any leg power, or he could just be extremely fatigued, but even in fatigue, it would look better than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M88OERJ4is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVuHzgYYT5U


front squat + squat jump complex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xLb0J3AUs


gives you an idea of how tough he is, considering he doesn't look like a great athlete from the vids.
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: ARowe on March 10, 2010, 05:53:07 am
yeah those depth drops to jumps were weak as hell. But he's good at what he does and he makes $$$$$
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: adarqui on March 10, 2010, 06:01:08 am
yeah those depth drops to jumps were weak as hell.

ya

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But he's good at what he does and he makes $$$$$

ya of course.. says even more about him with the likes of athletes like GSP/thiago hehe.. those guys are very explosive.
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: AlexV on March 10, 2010, 03:01:59 pm
My bud trains him.  He is slow as molasses.  Maybe Maroko needs to train him with TAQ, KT40, and FAP. 

Really he knows this is a weakness and this is why he is doing explosive stuff.  Cause he sucks at it. 

It is tough with MMA cause they spend so much time training (3-6 hours a day) that getting adaptation is tricky.  With my MMA guys I prefer a barry ross type workout.  Short, simple, strength, and explosiveness.
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: adarqui on March 10, 2010, 04:42:27 pm
My bud trains him.  He is slow as molasses.  Maybe Maroko needs to train him with TAQ, KT40, and FAP. 

FAPFAPFAPFAPFAP!!!!!!!

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Really he knows this is a weakness and this is why he is doing explosive stuff.  Cause he sucks at it. 

It is tough with MMA cause they spend so much time training (3-6 hours a day) that getting adaptation is tricky.  With my MMA guys I prefer a barry ross type workout.  Short, simple, strength, and explosiveness.

ya man when I was at ATT, those guys would train ALL DAY.. so I definitely do take that into account.

Being that these guys have such insane work capacities, I'd spend a few times throughout the year trying to get the squat/lunge up, then mostly just use singles + a relatively high frequency to maintain or improve it. That way they could keep from getting drained, sore, etc, yet still maintain or improve that power.

Also, things like DJ's/complexes, I would do them differently, especially those complexes. It looks like a cardio session. OF course you have to "fight through fatigue" in an mma match, but with exercises like DJ's/STIM complexes, I would do those fresh as fuck.

from the vids, I'd do:

DJ's = no pause
front squat + SJ = rest between FS / SJ, at least 2 minutes, to allow for greater tonic effect
quick lunges = done with better form, stance looks too short. if you're going to fight through fatigue, make sure the form is right.

ok maybe im just being an ass, but, im probably as powerful as fitch naturally, so I feel his pain :)

peace
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: AlexV on March 10, 2010, 06:49:02 pm
My bud trains him.  He is slow as molasses.  Maybe Maroko needs to train him with TAQ, KT40, and FAP. 

FAPFAPFAPFAPFAP!!!!!!!

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Really he knows this is a weakness and this is why he is doing explosive stuff.  Cause he sucks at it. 

It is tough with MMA cause they spend so much time training (3-6 hours a day) that getting adaptation is tricky.  With my MMA guys I prefer a barry ross type workout.  Short, simple, strength, and explosiveness.

ya man when I was at ATT, those guys would train ALL DAY.. so I definitely do take that into account.

Being that these guys have such insane work capacities, I'd spend a few times throughout the year trying to get the squat/lunge up, then mostly just use singles + a relatively high frequency to maintain or improve it. That way they could keep from getting drained, sore, etc, yet still maintain or improve that power.

Also, things like DJ's/complexes, I would do them differently, especially those complexes. It looks like a cardio session. OF course you have to "fight through fatigue" in an mma match, but with exercises like DJ's/STIM complexes, I would do those fresh as fuck.

from the vids, I'd do:

DJ's = no pause
front squat + SJ = rest between FS / SJ, at least 2 minutes, to allow for greater tonic effect
quick lunges = done with better form, stance looks too short. if you're going to fight through fatigue, make sure the form is right.

ok maybe im just being an ass, but, im probably as powerful as fitch naturally, so I feel his pain :)

peace

That's why I like the barry ross approach (pavels PTP) 2-5x2-5 limit volume to 10 reps do this 3-4x/week on the same exercise.  Do 1 month of that and 1 month doing that with complexes.

I don;t know where Fitch was in that program as far as his cycle but I think it was a speed+speed endurance workout.
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: adarqui on March 11, 2010, 04:48:22 am
My bud trains him.  He is slow as molasses.  Maybe Maroko needs to train him with TAQ, KT40, and FAP. 

FAPFAPFAPFAPFAP!!!!!!!

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Really he knows this is a weakness and this is why he is doing explosive stuff.  Cause he sucks at it. 

It is tough with MMA cause they spend so much time training (3-6 hours a day) that getting adaptation is tricky.  With my MMA guys I prefer a barry ross type workout.  Short, simple, strength, and explosiveness.

ya man when I was at ATT, those guys would train ALL DAY.. so I definitely do take that into account.

Being that these guys have such insane work capacities, I'd spend a few times throughout the year trying to get the squat/lunge up, then mostly just use singles + a relatively high frequency to maintain or improve it. That way they could keep from getting drained, sore, etc, yet still maintain or improve that power.

Also, things like DJ's/complexes, I would do them differently, especially those complexes. It looks like a cardio session. OF course you have to "fight through fatigue" in an mma match, but with exercises like DJ's/STIM complexes, I would do those fresh as fuck.

from the vids, I'd do:

DJ's = no pause
front squat + SJ = rest between FS / SJ, at least 2 minutes, to allow for greater tonic effect
quick lunges = done with better form, stance looks too short. if you're going to fight through fatigue, make sure the form is right.

ok maybe im just being an ass, but, im probably as powerful as fitch naturally, so I feel his pain :)

peace

That's why I like the barry ross approach (pavels PTP) 2-5x2-5 limit volume to 10 reps do this 3-4x/week on the same exercise.  Do 1 month of that and 1 month doing that with complexes.

ya thats a nice approach..

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I don;t know where Fitch was in that program as far as his cycle but I think it was a speed+speed endurance workout.

fight coming up pretty soon against thiago alvez.. i got alvez on this one even tho fitch got him in the first fight.

alvez is damn explosive.

fitch / alvez, march 27th.
Title: Re: John Fitch "Plyos"
Post by: adarqui on April 26, 2010, 01:48:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr8NlWLWM4c

it's odd, he looks better on the mitts, but then in that heavy bag vid he looks like a zombie.. i dno, maybe he just can't work the bag on his own that well? i dno it's odd.

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