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Article: Marathons made me fat
« on: October 05, 2016, 03:07:40 pm »
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http://nypost.com/2016/10/03/marathon-training-made-me-fat/



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Becki Ledford in April 2013 (left) and April 2016. Ledford gained about 25 pounds over the course of a few years, because she'd drink more sugary beverages and eat carb-heavy meals while training for races.

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 07:19:33 pm »
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Man I see so many fat runners around it's not funny, mainly women. They pound the gels like they're going out of business even on a 5 or 10k. No wonder the're putting on weight.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 08:09:58 pm »
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Man I see so many fat runners around it's not funny, mainly women. They pound the gels like they're going out of business even on a 5 or 10k. No wonder the're putting on weight.

i can't imagine getting fat while training for a marathon.. i never use gels (or ingest anything when running), i eat light, and sometimes i have to force food into me after my evening session -> too beat down from a session to want to eat (and actually not hungry).

i just don't get why/how you would allow yourself to balloon up knowing that adding extra fat will make you slower, ESPECIALLY over the course of a marathon........... wtf?  :uhhhfacepalm:

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 09:22:15 pm »
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Man I see so many fat runners around it's not funny, mainly women. They pound the gels like they're going out of business even on a 5 or 10k. No wonder the're putting on weight.

i can't imagine getting fat while training for a marathon.. i never use gels (or ingest anything when running), i eat light, and sometimes i have to force food into me after my evening session -> too beat down from a session to want to eat (and actually not hungry).

i just don't get why/how you would allow yourself to balloon up knowing that adding extra fat will make you slower, ESPECIALLY over the course of a marathon........... wtf?  :uhhhfacepalm:

That's probably another part of the equation. Are they actually improving their times and getting faster?

Unlike sprinting where it's all about time with marathons and half-marathons etc. the achievement for a lot of people is just being able to finish the race. It sounds like these people are just training to run marathons more for the social aspect of it and to say that they finished 'x' number of marathons because most people (myself included) know nothing about the times and what's fast for a marathon, but are impressed with people that can do them.

In fairness she was already chubby to begin with. She went from chubby to obese.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 10:25:36 pm »
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this article boils down to, i started eating more and gained weight.

yeah, no shit.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 12:07:00 am »
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Man I see so many fat runners around it's not funny, mainly women. They pound the gels like they're going out of business even on a 5 or 10k. No wonder the're putting on weight.

I see this at the gym soo often! People will be walking along on the treadmill at a brisk pace and they'll be sucking down on a sports drink like Gatorade, which contains hundreds of calories. So they will barely even burn the calories off that they consumed from the sports drink in their workout, let alone their meal afterwards, in which they'll probably eat more as they are 'hungry' from exercising.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 12:37:31 am »
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It's the old mindfuck of doing exercise and then feeling entitled to those extra "carbs" that you burnt during the session. I also blame Garmin, Strava, etc. A girl I know did the 1,000 steps a few times which is a big hill with near enough to 1,000 steps set in a nice forest like atmosphere. She walked this twice and her Garmin watch estimated she had burnt over 1,800 cals or something stupid like that. All of a sudden she doesn't feel so bad about the post sesh maccas run or whatever food she ate to "replenish her glycogen". 

Btw, kind of related but heard the best acronym from a running trainer the other day. AOA (Adult onset athlete). Absolute pisser because it pretty much describes every adult female runner I see these days (my wife excluded).
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 12:44:42 am »
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Man I see so many fat runners around it's not funny, mainly women. They pound the gels like they're going out of business even on a 5 or 10k. No wonder the're putting on weight.

i can't imagine getting fat while training for a marathon.. i never use gels (or ingest anything when running), i eat light, and sometimes i have to force food into me after my evening session -> too beat down from a session to want to eat (and actually not hungry).

i just don't get why/how you would allow yourself to balloon up knowing that adding extra fat will make you slower, ESPECIALLY over the course of a marathon........... wtf?  :uhhhfacepalm:

That's probably another part of the equation. Are they actually improving their times and getting faster?

Unlike sprinting where it's all about time with marathons and half-marathons etc. the achievement for a lot of people is just being able to finish the race. It sounds like these people are just training to run marathons more for the social aspect of it and to say that they finished 'x' number of marathons because most people (myself included) know nothing about the times and what's fast for a marathon, but are impressed with people that can do them.

In fairness she was already chubby to begin with. She went from chubby to obese.

This attitude pisses me off to no end. Person starts running. Does a 5k in 45 mins. Figures they'll do a 10, then a half, etc. Happy just to finish a marathon in 6+ hours. I mean what the fuck??? Why not get a fucking decent time on your 5, then 10 and then if you're capable push for higher distances. I know people doing ultra marathons that have no business doing a 10k. It's ludicrous. I mean know everyone's got their own goals but the term happy just to finish should probably be left for losing your virginity.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 12:53:27 am »
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This my favourite thread at the moment, lol. Don't have much to add but was wondernig, im tallking to a girl who is constantly collecting medals for marathons .. and i know she does it to raise money for charity which is cool but i wonder what her times are like, dont really wanna ask tho in case it's mediocre and i have to feign acceptance
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 01:14:11 am »
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This my favourite thread at the moment, lol. Don't have much to add but was wondernig, im tallking to a girl who is constantly collecting medals for marathons .. and i know she does it to raise money for charity which is cool but i wonder what her times are like, dont really wanna ask tho in case it's mediocre and i have to feign acceptance

Haha yeah might be best not to ask. Keep some mystery to the relationship on that front  :D
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 01:58:07 am »
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It's the old mindfuck of doing exercise and then feeling entitled to those extra "carbs" that you burnt during the session. I also blame Garmin, Strava, etc. A girl I know did the 1,000 steps a few times which is a big hill with near enough to 1,000 steps set in a nice forest like atmosphere. She walked this twice and her Garmin watch estimated she had burnt over 1,800 cals or something stupid like that. All of a sudden she doesn't feel so bad about the post sesh maccas run or whatever food she ate to "replenish her glycogen". 

Btw, kind of related but heard the best acronym from a running trainer the other day. AOA (Adult onset athlete). Absolute pisser because it pretty much describes every adult female runner I see these days (my wife excluded).

LOL!

They are probably the same types of people who are overweight/obese but insist that they eat healthy and are on these ridiculous gluten free/gourmet/organic 'diets' where everything is 3x the price of normal food.

As for ultra marathons one of my colleagues at work today was having a subtle brag about doing them. He pointed at his gut and said to my female colleague "it doesn't look like it, but I've just completed an ultra marathon recently so I can have my mornings free now".

Good on people for going out there and exercising, but it seems like exercise has become a lot more about socializing and wearing all the latest 'fitness gear and apparel' than it has about actually training. Oh yeah that reminds me all these whales on my facebook were whinging about Lorna Jane not selling any fitness clothing in sizes above 14.
Some of the comments were:
"Big people want to exercise, are told exercise will help them be healthy, lose weight and get smaller. But it's a huge barrier (pardon the pun) to exercise if you can't be clothed to do so".
"So many fit crossfit women wouldn't fit in her clothes and they are some of the fittest, strongest and gorgeous looking women ever!!"
" I am a plus size and cannot buy any active wear that I would be happy to wear, unless I wear black. I wantto be bright and happy while I am walking not stodgy and dowdy...come on give us a break".

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 09:54:52 am »
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only problem i have with "Adult Onset Athlete" is that it seems meant to mock a really good impulse, which is to try to get fit after, often, a lifetime of being sedentary. i'm cool with basically anything that gets people motivated and working hard. i certainly have views about what would be more or less optimal for different people, but the specifics are far less important than just putting in some kind of work. people who aren't fit are often self-conscious about it, especially around people who are. gyms can be intimidating. jumping into something new can be intimidating. positive reinforcement is everything IME.

that said, coges, i'm with you: it'd be better for people to run a few 5ks until they've improved a fair amount, then move up to 10k, etc., and probably never to run a marathon. if people ask me, that's what i say. (on the other hand, "happy to finish" would not describe my virginity-losing experience, because i think it took me about 45 seconds, hahaha :'().

body-shaming people is gross and mean.

also, maxent, what would be an acceptable marathon time for a marathon-running love interest? if this woman has run more than one then she's probably pretty fit and committed. if you're attracted mainly to super competitive people, then i can see why you'd care. but if not, what's the difference if she runs them in 3 or 4 hours, or if she's improving her times? not everyone is crazy competitive or motivated to improve and improve.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2016, 09:58:35 am »
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that article really is irritating, though. lot of misleading shit.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 11:08:38 am »
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Came across this today and noticed this gem:

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But sometimes, eating too little can also help pack on the pounds. Elbaz attributes her double-digit weight gain to consuming too few calories, which can cause your metabolism to drop. “She became inefficient at burning calories,” says dietitian Heidi Skolnik, meaning Elbaz’s body stored excess calories as fat, rather than using them as energy.

 :uhhhfacepalm:

Eat too much? Gain weight.
Eat too little? Lose weight.

So wtf do you think the answer is, people?

Do prisoners of war get fat before they get skinny???
« Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 11:13:30 am by Dreyth »
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 12:37:27 pm »
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your metabolism really does slow down when you're eating below maintenance. so what previously felt like a maintenance level of calories, or even a below-maintenance level, can become a surplus.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses