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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 01:12:37 pm »
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your metabolism really does slow down when you're eating below maintenance. so what previously felt like a maintenance level of calories, or even a below-maintenance level, can become a surplus.

Yes it does, but if you read the quote in it's entirety it is certainly incorrect. If she truly ate so little calories to the point where her metabolism slowed, she would have lost weight in the process. And then she would have reached maintenance eventually (depending on how large the deficit is) and still not gained weight! Later in the article another runner says she finally lost weight by eating more calories instead... it just doesn't add up!
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 02:05:19 pm »
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im all for AOA .. but like coges/lbss said, (as far as running goes) make some progress in shorter distances before you basically limp 26 miles. I witnessed this in person when I went to that social run meetup a few months ago.. This guy who was basically near-death after 2 miles, was talking about how he has a 50 mile Ultra in January or whatever.. I was just thinking wtf? I guess for some people it's bragging rights (he was kind-of coming off like a badass)... or perhaps it does give them a great sense of accomplishment.... or both. Just seems like there's definitely a large component of ego/bragging rights to me.

It does seem like people have a checklist of marathons they want to complete, even if it takes them well over 3 hours.. Completed: Chicago, Boston, NY, SF ..... They love to travel and add these marathons to their checklist. It's cool, but it does seem like alot of people rush into it.

As far as ones body goes.. if you plan to take running seriously, there's absolutely no excuse to be fat (eventually). It's like saying I want to be a free-solo climber (from the doc i watched yesterday), and here I am in the obese category. Makes no sense -> Imminent death. I imagine those joints are going to take much more of a pounding with all of that excess bodyweight - especially if they are doing marathons .. It can't be too great as one ages.

The crazy thing is.. if people who balloon up while training for marathons, just had more self control.. They'd probably have enjoyed running soooo much more. It's generally easier when you're lighter, form improves, you can go faster, times improve, you look "better", you can run more, you recover faster, you'd probably get injured less, eating like a pig makes you feel sluggish, you'd probably be healthier overall etc.

Being fat sucks. I became fat once in my life due to ~3 years of detraining and unhealthy eating habits, so I speak from experience. Crazy to think I can speak from experience about being fat....... wtf? mind blown.

I'm not for fat shaming.. BUT, I am also not for condoning excessive levels of fat from eating "crap/junk" & excessive alcohol consumption. Seems like it's becoming more acceptable lately. But that's just my opinion on it. On the flipside, i've been skinny shamed alot in my life.. lmfao.

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 06:41:38 pm »
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@lbss & @adarqui
Agree on fat shaming. If someone is out there trying to improve themselves then fantastic and good on then. Like adarqui I've been skinny shamed for most of my life although it never really bothered me.

I'm not sure if I sound like a douche when I say this but my main issue with anyone entering an athletic endeavour is settling for mediocrity. We can't all be world beaters but we should understand where we stand in the grand scheme of things and be comfortable using ourselves as our main source of competition to be better every day. This is the issue with AOA. There are two running groups in my area (predominately women in their 30's and 40's) who celebrate their mediocrity and shame those who strive to be better. They're also the first ones to call themselves athletes and marathoners even if they finish in 5-6 hours. Just because you can run doesn't make you a runner. 
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 08:35:22 pm »
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@lbss & @adarqui
Agree on fat shaming. If someone is out there trying to improve themselves then fantastic and good on then. Like adarqui I've been skinny shamed for most of my life although it never really bothered me.

I'm not sure if I sound like a douche when I say this but my main issue with anyone entering an athletic endeavour is settling for mediocrity. We can't all be world beaters but we should understand where we stand in the grand scheme of things and be comfortable using ourselves as our main source of competition to be better every day. This is the issue with AOA. There are two running groups in my area (predominately women in their 30's and 40's) who celebrate their mediocrity and shame those who strive to be better. They're also the first ones to call themselves athletes and marathoners even if they finish in 5-6 hours. Just because you can run doesn't make you a runner.

bolded is the only part that matters, to me. if they want to call themselves athletes and celebrate their mediocrity, who cares? if they want to slag on other people for trying harder then fuck them.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 10:47:29 pm »
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@lbss & @adarqui
Agree on fat shaming. If someone is out there trying to improve themselves then fantastic and good on then. Like adarqui I've been skinny shamed for most of my life although it never really bothered me.

I'm not sure if I sound like a douche when I say this but my main issue with anyone entering an athletic endeavour is settling for mediocrity. We can't all be world beaters but we should understand where we stand in the grand scheme of things and be comfortable using ourselves as our main source of competition to be better every day. This is the issue with AOA. There are two running groups in my area (predominately women in their 30's and 40's) who celebrate their mediocrity and shame those who strive to be better. They're also the first ones to call themselves athletes and marathoners even if they finish in 5-6 hours. Just because you can run doesn't make you a runner.

bolded is the only part that matters, to me. if they want to call themselves athletes and celebrate their mediocrity, who cares? if they want to slag on other people for trying harder then fuck them.

Kind of agree but it's akin to someone deadlifting with a rounded back or doing partial squats with huge weights thinking they're awesome. People don't know what they don't know. Unconscious ignorance is an excuse. Conscious ignorance is not.

Case in point. A girl I know with one of these groups was running high 6 to 7 min/k over a 10k distance. This is purely based on the general pace of the group. She runs with a different group once and is now running mid 5's for the same distance purely based on a mental shift.
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 08:03:18 am »
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your metabolism really does slow down when you're eating below maintenance. so what previously felt like a maintenance level of calories, or even a below-maintenance level, can become a surplus.

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"In the classical Minnesota experiment, young men with a maintenance requirement of 14.6MJ/d were restricted to 6.6 MJ/d for 24 weeks.9 They reached energy balance at the end of the experiment, with 58% of the total energy saving being ascribed to a reduction of activity- induced energy expenditure; of this total energy saving, 40% was due to reduced body weight and 60% was due to reduced physical activity."
Sf the total reduction in energy expenditure, nearly 60% of it was due to less calories burned during exercise of which 40% was due to being lighter and 60% was doing less total activity. That means that most of the adaptive component isn't even in metabolic rate in the first place.
It's changes in energy expenditure during activity, both formal exercise and SPA/NEAT
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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2018, 03:22:14 am »
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http://nypost.com/2016/10/03/marathon-training-made-me-fat/



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Becki Ledford in April 2013 (left) and April 2016. Ledford gained about 25 pounds over the course of a few years, because she'd drink more sugary beverages and eat carb-heavy meals while training for races.

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Re: Article: Marathons made me fat
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2018, 04:38:26 pm »
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just run more. :ninja:

i eat alot, but running negates it.

i think gaining lots of fat while training for a marathon, would mean you are putting in low mileage weeks, with one long run, and eating everything in sight. that's definitely a problem. lol.

also, in my experience, if you do a long run, you mostly just want sugar/water after -> hard to eat a big meal. ie, i'll run 2-3 hours then crave a milkshake, or grapefruit, etc.. but not some massive meal. So you'll remain positive in calories burned to calories ingested, at least for that effort.