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Performance Area => Nutrition & Supplementation => Topic started by: ghettoracer on November 08, 2010, 07:14:41 pm
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i searched for bcaa in this forum and resulted in only 2 posts in 1 thread... is anyone taking this? searching for a bit i found a supplier of soy protein isolate in Taiwan that sells 1kg (2.2 lbs) for 480NT or ~$15.50. seems like a pretty good deal. :-) they recommended taking bcaa with protein. read about bcaa a little bit and seems to be very good for increasing aerobic and anaerobic capacities. 500g cost $40. hmm!
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i searched for bcaa in this forum and resulted in only 2 posts in 1 thread... is anyone taking this? searching for a bit i found a supplier of soy protein isolate in Taiwan that sells 1kg (2.2 lbs) for 480NT or ~$15.50. seems like a pretty good deal. :-) they recommended taking bcaa with protein. read about bcaa a little bit and seems to be very good for increasing aerobic and anaerobic capacities. 500g cost $40. hmm!
1. avoid soy protein
2. You get enough bcaa's in your diet from protein. I really don't feel you need free form bcaa's for recovery.
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what are the cons of soy protein? what do u recommend then? based on this article i don't see any real cons of soy for my application...
http://bodybuilding.ultimatefatburner.com/soy-protein-review.html
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i searched for bcaa in this forum and resulted in only 2 posts in 1 thread... is anyone taking this? searching for a bit i found a supplier of soy protein isolate in Taiwan that sells 1kg (2.2 lbs) for 480NT or ~$15.50. seems like a pretty good deal. :-) they recommended taking bcaa with protein. read about bcaa a little bit and seems to be very good for increasing aerobic and anaerobic capacities. 500g cost $40. hmm!
1. avoid soy protein
2. You get enough bcaa's in your diet from protein. I really don't feel you need free form bcaa's for recovery.
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stay away from soy protein ghettoracer, shit will andropause you !@$@
check this ghettoracer, http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm
just search "soy protein dangers", biggest issue with soy has to do with increasing estrogen levels, imo.
http://cancervisa.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/soy-protein-contains-dangerous-levels-of-plant-estrogens/
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=soy+protein+cancer&as_sdt=40000&as_ylo=2000&as_vis=0
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/138/6S-I/1244S
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_interviews/poison_protein
just tons of stuff..
pc
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whey isolate then? hmm, i dunno about all that soy protein & breast cancer relation. Asians eat a ton of soy products and breast cancer rate is FAR lower than people with typical Western diet.
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whey isolate then? hmm, i dunno about all that soy protein & breast cancer relation. Asians eat a ton of soy products and breast cancer rate is FAR lower than people with typical Western diet.
right but thyroid cancer's are apparently much higher in china, which has been linked to soy..
stick to whey, whey is legit.
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So what's up with BCAA after all? I mean, if I take BCAA "pills", is that any good or bad?
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So what's up with BCAA after all? I mean, if I take BCAA "pills", is that any good or bad?
i'm pretty sure it's good but i'm also pretty sure it's a waste of your money...you should be getting plenty of essential and none essential amino acids through a good high protein diet...basically BCAA aren't really necessary
correct me if i'm wrong....adarq? JC? you guys seem to know your stuff
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It's funny JC said
2. You get enough bcaa's in your diet from protein. I really don't feel you need free form bcaa's for recovery.
, like everybody has the same, optimal diet.
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It's funny JC said 2. You get enough bcaa's in your diet from protein. I really don't feel you need free form bcaa's for recovery.
, like everybody has the same, optimal diet.
yeah but the point is you don't need to waste your money on BCAA's when you could be trying to just get more protein in more often...but if the money isn't an issue and it's convenient then why not right? or you could take glutamine kind of the same idea
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So what's up with BCAA after all? I mean, if I take BCAA "pills", is that any good or bad?
Its fine but getting them via whey protein is probably a better idea than the capsules. If you look at the amino content of most the pills you would have to take a massive amount to equal the content in a typical 2 scoops of whey protein shake. Most people dont get anywhere close to the protein content they need for growth in their normal diet without supplementation, whey is going to be the most logical solution and is more of a staple than a supplement for athletes imo.
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Does the manufacturer of the protein powder really matter?
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Does the manufacturer of the protein powder really matter?
Well there are different content qualities at times and also taste differences, but in most cases I would say no. there used to be a website up from a neutral party that tested the actual content of different supplements and companies and reported the testing results on the site, I may see if I can find it. Last I remember Beverly was at the top of line in quality content on most of their products, but the 2nd and 3rd werent very far behind.
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And you really believe there's such a thing as "neutral" in this business. It's hard to believe, for me, that a "neutral" company isn't backed up by another company that wants to throw dirt, undercover, onto the other companies.
S&C and especially nutrition is a dirty business.
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And you really believe there's such a thing as "neutral" in this business. It's hard to believe, for me, that a "neutral" company isn't backed up by another company that wants to throw dirt, undercover, onto the other companies.
well, it was not a supplement manufacturing company, it was a company paid to test others products and report to them the findings. The problem with that is many of the supplement companies who had their products tested but didnt get the legitimacy turnout they hoped own the test results so they dont have to allow them to report them.
this is not the same site but one that is along the same lines, same issues though, if a supplement shows to not contain what it says, the product manufacturer owns the rights to the report and can have it taken down from the site.
http://www.consumerlab.com/
S&C and especially nutrition is a dirty business.
People believing scam artists posing as coaches and trainers is the real issue, and this is a much bigger problem online than it is in the real world. If someone is successful and makes a living based upon their success from actually getting people results, and has people paying them for legit results, and their success depends on RESULTS, its much harder to fabricate who you are and what you know. Online there are tons of "experts" who havent trained 2 people in their entire life, havent trained themselves for any substantial amount of time, but are "experts" or "top ball handling coaches in the world" etc.
People being dumb is the main issue, if people are ignorant on any issue there will always be a wide open door for scammers, look at what people have done with religious scams, get rich quick scams, etc. In the end its the individuals choice who they listen to, the scammers will always be around but they wouldnt be able to continue if people would use their heads a little bit.
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BCAA's are just refined proteins man. The capsules just give you a really small dose of a really limited range of amino acids (important ones yeah, but there's others you should be getting). You'd need to take like 20g of BCAA powder at a time to make it useful. Think about the caps... thats like a half bottle at a time.
Don't buy BCAA's. Especially caps. Buy whey powder, just the concentrate. The extra $ for casein and isolates is not necessary. Whey concentrate is a way better nutritional choice and way cheaper.
And eat chicken, fish, beef and other animals all the time. Between that and the powder (when you can't face another tin of fish) you'll get all the BCAA's you'll ever need from proper food.