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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 12:15:32 am »
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Ow, i asked this because a friend of mine said that when a beginner trainee, like me, consumes whey protein, its effect will be minimal because our muscles are not that burned. Because whey protein is to fast absorbed by our body some of it will not be consumed after working out. He said that it is more appropriate for body builders than for athletes. I don't know if that's true that's why I'm asking here what's better.

Your friend is wrong.

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So it is better to take isolate or whey protein mix than creatine. For now.

THEY BOTH DO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS.  If you can only afford one then go with the protein for sure, but thats like asking whats better, a hammer or a screw driver.  



Ow thanks, sir lance. Ow, Btw my goal is be more explosive (jump higher) even if that's my goal i should take whey protein? I heard and read that creatine is for more ATP production and explosiveness.

Yea, whey protein is going to help you in many ways, its very rare to see athletes who get adequate protein intake without supplementing with protein shakes.  They are more of a "food" than a supplement really for an athlete.  Creatine is great for explosive/power type activities and sports, if you can get both thats a good way to go.  If you can only get one or the other definitely go with the whey protein though.
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2011, 11:03:33 pm »
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Thank you very much! O wait, sir lance .I will definitely buy whey protein but I'm on my 11'th week (recovery and explosiveness) on the VF 2.0 and asking if i have the money to buy creatine now and will have many to buy whey protein after 2 weeks (start of VF intermediate phase 1 which is high intensity 5x5 squat etc.). Should I buy creatine now and save for whey protein for the start of the next cycle of VF?
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 03:13:59 am »
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Thank you very much! O wait, sir lance .I will definitely buy whey protein but I'm on my 11'th week (recovery and explosiveness) on the VF 2.0 and asking if i have the money to buy creatine now and will have many to buy whey protein after 2 weeks (start of VF intermediate phase 1 which is high intensity 5x5 squat etc.). Should I buy creatine now and save for whey protein for the start of the next cycle of VF?

 The most important thing right now is to make sure youre getting adequate protein intake, taking creatine wont combat an inadequate protein intake.  Once your protein intake is up to par then adding creatine is a good idea and can be helpful.
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 10:09:15 am »
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Sorry for the incessant questions.  :D Okay ,protein intake first then creatine. Do you have any link, sir lance, on how much of protein per lbs of body weight should I take during the day and after or before work-out? Or a guideline on how much protein intake should I take?
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 12:36:56 pm »
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Sorry for the incessant questions.  :D Okay ,protein intake first then creatine. Do you have any link, sir lance, on how much of protein per lbs of body weight should I take during the day and after or before work-out? Or a guideline on how much protein intake should I take?


 Try and get at least 1.5 grams per lb of bw if youre trying to build muscle tissue, 20-30 grams pre workout and 40-60 grams pwo works very well.  5 grams of creatine daily, dont need to follow the "loading" phase on the bottle and you dont need to "cycle" it either.
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 07:51:44 pm »
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Sorry for the incessant questions.  :D Okay ,protein intake first then creatine. Do you have any link, sir lance, on how much of protein per lbs of body weight should I take during the day and after or before work-out? Or a guideline on how much protein intake should I take?


 Try and get at least 1.5 grams per lb of bw if youre trying to build muscle tissue, 20-30 grams pre workout and 40-60 grams pwo works very well.  5 grams of creatine daily, dont need to follow the "loading" phase on the bottle and you dont need to "cycle" it either.

WOW. :o That's alot. :-X Good bye savings! and hello whey protein!      ;D
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 08:16:29 pm »
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Sorry for the incessant questions.  :D Okay ,protein intake first then creatine. Do you have any link, sir lance, on how much of protein per lbs of body weight should I take during the day and after or before work-out? Or a guideline on how much protein intake should I take?


 Try and get at least 1.5 grams per lb of bw if youre trying to build muscle tissue, 20-30 grams pre workout and 40-60 grams pwo works very well.  5 grams of creatine daily, dont need to follow the "loading" phase on the bottle and you dont need to "cycle" it either.

WOW. :o That's alot. :-X Good bye savings! and hello whey protein!      ;D

 The number above was total grams of protein per day, that wont come from strictly whey alone.  Using one shake post workout can work if you make up the extra protein throughout the day in whole foods.  Alot of people find that supplementing with protein shakes actually saves them money when they calculate it all up, they are not spending as much on fast food or more expensive meals and it saves them money in the long run.  My whey protein comes out to about $1 per shake, which substitutes for a meal that would normally cost ~$5.
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Re: Creatine or Whey Protein?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 11:34:37 pm »
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Sorry for the incessant questions.  :D Okay ,protein intake first then creatine. Do you have any link, sir lance, on how much of protein per lbs of body weight should I take during the day and after or before work-out? Or a guideline on how much protein intake should I take?


 Try and get at least 1.5 grams per lb of bw if youre trying to build muscle tissue, 20-30 grams pre workout and 40-60 grams pwo works very well.  5 grams of creatine daily, dont need to follow the "loading" phase on the bottle and you dont need to "cycle" it either.

WOW. :o That's alot. :-X Good bye savings! and hello whey protein!      ;D

 The number above was total grams of protein per day, that wont come from strictly whey alone.  Using one shake post workout can work if you make up the extra protein throughout the day in whole foods.  Alot of people find that supplementing with protein shakes actually saves them money when they calculate it all up, they are not spending as much on fast food or more expensive meals and it saves them money in the long run.  My whey protein comes out to about $1 per shake, which substitutes for a meal that would normally cost ~$5.

Ow! A problem of mine is knowing how much protein a meal has. Is there a table on how much protein beef, fish, pork, etc has? Here in the Phil. food is cheap and almost always our food is home cooked (whole e.g. cafeteria except from fast food chain obviously) and normally costs $1-$1.25. whey protein on the other hand, i think, costs about $50-$70 for 5lbs or 7lbs? . I'm not really sure about this numbers I haven't shop or gone to a mall to check this. My conclusion is.... wait I don't have any conclusion cause I don't know the exact figures. :-X I'll ask my friend when we will go to the mall to check some products. Does anyone have any idea what brand or type of whey protein is the best for me (casein etc)? Given that I could only buy 1 type of protein. Thanks sir lance! I have now a clearer I dead on how to manage my protein intake.

 BTW, here's my sample diet on weekdays. If it is okay that you analyze how much protein i take cause I have no ideaof it. I only know tahat egg has around 5g of protein....

Breakfast--- one egg, 2 slices of ham, 3 cups of rice
10 am--- Omelet Sandwich (2 eggs) around 10g of protein
Lunch--- 2 cups of rice.... one chicken leg and 50g of pork  OR   70-150g(just estimates or one slice of tuna) Fish
2pm--- Omelet Sandwich again

Work-out day
---post work-out---- 2 boiled eggs, chocolate bar, chocolate milk, soy milk

6pm--- tapsilog (50g of beef(processed) + egg)
8pm--- 3 cups of rice and soup( 3 parts of chicken (leg, wings, breast) and vegetable)

The # of grams are just pure estimates.
BTW, I'm 169lbs. So I need around 255 g of protein. Everyday excluding those of pre and post work-out. Right? I just read that. :)
« Last Edit: February 21, 2011, 12:02:36 am by KokoyPinoy »
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