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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2010, 12:34:29 pm »
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Drugs are certainly interesting, especially in this country. But nootripcs have been around for thousands of years, in herbal medicine from China, India, south america, everywhere actually. Most, if not all tonic herbs will increase focus. The "tonic" herbs are the ones which Taoists revered for immortality, and believed them to greatly strengthen the body. Similarly to building muscles up stronger by going to the gym, tonic herbs strengthen the organs, the governers of bodily functions. But the good thing about herbs is that they balance the body's internal states of energy as well, keeping the organism healthy, which most people do not care about since we are looking for quick and easy ways to do things. Well there are immediate boosts in mental clarity from natural substances, people just don't know...here are some great options that will help people study better. And for the herbs, I recommend buying the actual herb and making a decoction/tea out of it, it's cheaper and more potent in many cases. Most of these herbs are also known as adaptogenic herbs too

1. Cacao beans/nibs - contains phenethylamine, closely related to methamphetamine, also high amount of antioxidants, blood flow to brain, keeps me up all night, too stimulating actually. Contains L-DOPA, domamine, serotonin as well... very complex
2. Cacao powder - cheaper, less effective, but pretty good boost
3. Rhodiola rosea - I have two articles on this on therawhigh.blogspot.com if you want scientific studies, stimulates CNS, not necessarily good for us who always stimulate the CNS. (i'm not selling it in the website)
4. Fasting in the morning, intermittently -increases brain levels of acetyl-l-carnitine
5. Anxiolytics - sedatives in other words can relax the brain, promote alpha brain waves, better than being overdriven in beta brainwaves for memorization.
6. Ashwaghanda - aphrodisiac for men and women, usually recommended for men. Helps resolve issues with HPA axis, helped me recover from overtraining like nothing else ever did.
7. Turmeric - obviously good for brain, and joints, inflammation. Kinda stimulating tho
8. Schizandra berries - less stimulating, feel it in brain pretty fast to sometimes.
9. Reishi mushroom - revered in china, calms the body
10. Meditation: I don't know the mechanisms really, except the alpha brainwave thing. Yogis who practice Kriya Yoga, a very meditative form, have told me they can retain almost everything they read. They are in a different state of conscoiusness, definitely more alpha brainwaves.
11. Hemp seeds - pretty damn cheap on nutsonline.com ($3/lb). One of the most potent plant based omega-3 forms, usually you can "feel" the brain energy right away. Chia seeds are even more powerful but difficult to chew. Good plant protein source too, and proteins are also good for the brain.
12. Marshmallow root and slippery elm bark - some recommendations to balance out the body. Many of us here on this forum need Yin yonics, b/c jumping and high intensity activities deplete the body. These have helped me focus, even tho it doesn't really make sense how.
13. BEEF LIVER - just so full of minerals . . .
14. SPIRULINA - also a food recommendation, contains 40+ trace minerals, gamma-linoleic acid, it is about 60% amino acids itself, pretty damn good brain boosting supplement and protein, and detoxification.



Of those listed, I've had rhodiola rosea and beef liver. Rhodiola, from the couple of times I've used it, has actually worked. I plan on using that one a lot more often when season is in full swing. As far as beef liver goes, I just like how awesome it is. I've never understood why most kids my age and younger don't like it. I think it tastes just fine, and it's nutritional value is amazing.

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2010, 12:59:12 pm »
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Is this the beef liver you cook? or is there a pill form?
I'm not a fan of the taste:'(

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2010, 01:27:48 pm »
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You should become a fan of the taste.

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 06:09:49 pm »
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Native populations (forget which ones) always recommended eating the organs, except the gall bladder and one other one. It does smell like garbage. At whole foods they sometimes sell them. Lotta b-12. Raw meat/fish might be a nootropic too. as meats contain carnitines.
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 05:59:33 pm »
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I think Piracetam helps regulate my sleep. Whenever I start taking it I immediately get on a good sleep schedule and wake up feeling very refreshed... which is otherwise pretty rare.

Just bought some Lecithin today, gonna use that for a choline source instead of DMAE. NOW Foods is the best!
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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 07:31:23 pm »
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this thread is interesting. Since, basketball season started im falling behind a bit in my AP classes (compared to the fall) and need to take the SAT soon. I dont have any pre-existing medical conditions. What nootropic should I take?
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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2011, 07:40:17 pm »
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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2011, 08:14:02 pm »
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thanks man! how much does all that cost? Moreover, how much less effective would it be if i just took vinpocetine daily and before tests and cut out the rest of the supplements? And what is the purpose of the brain clear? Sorry for all the annoying questions!
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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2011, 09:28:40 pm »
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Wiki can explain centro better than I can. It just makes your brain work better, one person told me it 'ungunks' it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meclofenoxate
I took only vinpocetine(10mgx3/day) when I was in gas school, got 90 plus in both gas and electrical(class and exams) w/ little to no outside of the classroom studying.

Vinpocetine is cheap as fuck. like less than $10/month.
This is where I ordered from, so you can check the prices for yourself for whatever you're interested in.
http://www.smartpowders.com/
All in all, my stack from previous post cost ~$220 or so with shipping(USA to Canada).

IMO, it's like brain nutrition, and I'm planning on medical school, so I look at it like an investment in myself.

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2011, 06:03:53 am »
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Pretty nice thread. About the goosebumps on comand that Adarqui said, i can literally direct goosebumps through my body in what region i want, like playing snake with electric current throughout my body (weird sensation).
On another note, i can pretty much do all the stuff everyone is talking about without taking anything, so i wonder about two things:
What would happen if i would take nootropics, would my cns get overlystimulated and fail? and on another note: if i take them in cycles, after stopping are the effects maintaining or just like a normal steroid i lose my abilities, maybe even worse than before (as i'm used to learning with the nootropics and not the hard way)?  ???

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Re: Nootropics
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2011, 07:19:47 am »
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Yeah I can do the goosebumps on command as well... I think it's a sign of a hyperactive nervous system by definition...