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entropy

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Re: Pre-Workout supplements
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2012, 11:35:33 am »
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I didn't know Creatine, Beta Alanine and Citrulline were stimulants.

These all help and you should take them everyday if you have them. You don't develop a tolerance. The only difference you'll notice is you won't get tingles from Beta Alanine after awhile.

But again, these don't help that much and if you can't afford them don't worry about it.

You are right, they're not. Thanks btw, I used your tip for a homemade preworkout and I like it. Using creatine and a multi + stimulants, plus some carbs+protein about 15 mins later makes for a good workout.
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Re: Pre-Workout supplements
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2012, 03:15:49 pm »
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haha. Yes citrulline is not a stimulant, but who takes that shit alone? Most pre-w/out formulas contain adrenergic agonists. I agree with entropy's quote where the guy quoted said it's not necessarily good to try to psyche yourself up before each lift. This willr esult in overtraining.


I've been there for the past 8months-ish. Now I'm taking cod liver oil and I'm insanely psyched up probably due to the Vitamin A. this won't work for everyone.

Situation: good points, I didn't mean to say it's all about testosterone, but of course having a healthy hormonal profile is huge. And diet can significantly affect T levels.

ADrenal fatigue is a controversial condition I'd agree, it's a problem originating int he hypothalamus, HPA axis.

I would also agree for endurance training citrulline, beta alanine, and creatine could help but I wasn't thinking about that, just strength/power training.

Pretty much everyone agrees with me that the stimulant supps like JACK3d are not good supplements to rely on and in general are not good for you.

You should go to the gym because you are warmed up. Not go to the gym, and then get warmed up. That's a healthy metabolism.
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Re: Pre-Workout supplements
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2013, 08:54:10 pm »
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Re: Pre-Workout supplements
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2013, 05:44:35 am »
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That's nuts!

Btw KF I realised you take a lot of caffeine because duh you are a daily squatter so you kinda have to take a lot unlike someone who only lifts 3x a week.

Have you ever tried going without it? Wonder if that would help you reduce CNS fatigue. I feel as though it would because that much caffeine so often has got to be tough on the nervous system especially with very high frequency training as yours.

Lately ive reduced my caffeine intake quite a bit and I like it, don't get so wired and find it easier to sleep after training now.
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Re: Pre-Workout supplements
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2013, 09:39:57 pm »
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That's nuts!

Btw KF I realised you take a lot of caffeine because duh you are a daily squatter so you kinda have to take a lot unlike someone who only lifts 3x a week.

Have you ever tried going without it? Wonder if that would help you reduce CNS fatigue. I feel as though it would because that much caffeine so often has got to be tough on the nervous system especially with very high frequency training as yours.

Lately ive reduced my caffeine intake quite a bit and I like it, don't get so wired and find it easier to sleep after training now.

i can do with 0mg-800mg caffeine a day without any headaches or withdrawals. i take black coffee at 5am and still sleep 7.5hr at 8am.



 
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