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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 09:14:08 pm »
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I don't think I would like anything moderated if I was bashing a site for lying, at least this site tries to have civil discussion. Also, I really don't like supplement companies to begin with, especially when they make outrageous claims. The only thing I've read from Berardi is Scrawny to Brawny and his credentials which so far give me the impression that he really knows what he's talking about. (maybe not within TMag, I haven't even been on there) Also, just saying that he sucks isn't a good argument. Plus, he's a living example of his own material, so for now I'll trust him.

Also, I was looking at br.com and I agree, they have really fantastic information. I especially like the article on building calf muscles, I'll be using it, most programs don't incorporate calves or just do a very poor job of it.

most people like to talk shit about the calfs.. "p-chain bro!".. it's odd how a muscle group can just become "unimportant". It's kind of how the quadriceps have become "unimportant". People everywhere bash the quads and calfs while drooling over glutes & hams.. sure, most people's glutes and hams are underdeveloped, but that's no reason to minimize the important of such important muscle groups as quads/calfs.. all muscle groups are important, otherwise they wouldn't be there.. people are nuts.. quads/calfs play a huge role in vertical, as well as a stabilizing force (quads) during plant & acceleration in sprinting, calfs play an important role in everything involving sprinting/jumping.

but ya, im not really for direct training of the quads, except for TKE's (terminal knee extensions) on leg extension or manual resistance.. calfs/glutes/hamstrings i'm for isolation training, as well as of course the big compound movements (squat/lunge/etc).

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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2010, 09:14:44 pm »
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Largely because, unlike most other nutrition sites I've seen, HE DOESN'T FUCKING LIE ALL THE TIME* and HE ISN'T A FUCKING MORON.** Also, Lyle's support forum is moderated only for civility, unlike TMag's or practically anyone else's message board. You can troll him to your heart's content, ask the dumbest questions possible, and he will not censor or ban you. Because he's not selling bullshit and he actually knows what he's talking about.

That's a load of crap. Remember when he banned anyone who mentioned rippetoe owning him?

LOL.. on what, that GOMAD experiment?

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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2010, 09:33:17 pm »
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Every muscle is important to the total physique. I like what Pavel said in the Naked Warrior, "Everything in your body is interrelated and isolation is a myth."

Though I think isolation workouts are great for building muscles like the calves, I still think great strength comes from compound lifts and exercises.

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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2010, 10:15:53 am »
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I'm not gonna defend Lyle in the whole Rippetoe shit, he acted like a giant prick, got caught doing it and was incapable of apologizing or ceding even a little bit of ground. That was lame. But I don't remember anyone getting banned for that specifically, though? I'm pretty sure the only people he's banned were people who violated his forum's very, very few rules (don't make fun of Tillerman, the guy on there who died of cancer; don't make fun of Lyle and speedskating; don't complain about not being able to do those two things). Most of the trolls (Brother, Ultra Round, nisora23, The Metronome, butkus, etc. -- I just checked, didn't know them off the top of my head  :D) who flamed him after the shit with Rip went down are still active accounts. The one in the Rip's Forum thread who's gone now, superman, wouldn't stop violating the skating rule, so he got banned. But that seems reasonable to me and the warning is clear.

Also, far from censoring people who call him out, Lyle admits it and apologizes when he's wrong about something factual, including in that very thread, at least twice.

And none of that changes the fact that his info is better/more honest/clearer than anyone else's that I've seen.
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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2010, 10:17:04 am »
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Every muscle is important to the total physique. I like what Pavel said in the Naked Warrior, "Everything in your body is interrelated and isolation is a myth."

Though I think isolation workouts are great for building muscles like the calves, I still think great strength comes from compound lifts and exercises.

^^^True.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2010, 04:54:11 pm »
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This winter I did this:

Pre: 30g whey protein+30g dextrose

Post: 30g whey protein+45g dextrose

Now I just try and get my pwo meal as fast as possible (read within 30min). If this is not possible I try to just get some milk or some other source of protein. Sometimes I bring 1l of milk for training. But thats not often.

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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2010, 09:33:27 pm »
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I'm gonna defend Lyle in the whole Rippetoe shit,

im shocked
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Re: Pre/Post workout Supplements
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2010, 02:35:16 am »
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Lulz @phil