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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 07:05:53 pm »
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Today I've eaten: current weight 130lbs

Nutritional drink ( boost plus ) 350calorie

TGIF- chicken breast and mash potatoes and a slice of cheese cake

Another TGIF- chicken breast and mash potatoes 2 chicken tenders

A banana 

Honey bunches of oats: 160 calories

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« Last Edit: February 19, 2011, 09:12:23 pm by Girljordan »

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2011, 07:17:59 pm »
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it is not better to eat every 3 hours compared to eating 3 times a day!

diet-wise, fast food is not bad or worse than other food. it's usually more calorie dense and you can overeat easier. if you know that and don't go crazy with it you can eat "bad food" here and there. (health-wise is a different thing).



oh, and: don't do p90x !


Yeah exactly, the ideal athlete eats McDonald's three times a day with no snacks and no supplements.

Ok, this is the problem with online stuff.  You get people contradicting one another with no support.  I will get some studies up here next.  However, so I'm clear, it seems like you are advocating 1.  Eating fast food vs. whole foods doesn't matter and  2.  eat 3 times a day and not snack or eat every three waking hours. 

As far as the junk food, Adarq even has something up talking about putting junk in your body and "eating like an athlete" I just have to find it.  I agree she can definitely eat fast food especially if she needs to get some calories in there, I am saying all else equal, it's best to eat whole foods unless you can't get the calories.  Seriously can't believe you would advocate eating 3x a day rather than more frequently -"athletes" eat constantly - about 1,000,000 studies supporting this, I will get them just at work right now.  If you really want to put on some weight with good calories, you can go with a cytogainer and put on as much weight as you want.  It's a 2,000 calorie supplement.

Also, I said a NUMBER of times that p90x isn't the only program out there, I was suggesting it as something to help tone and work on some general strength which is what many women want.  If you guys have a program maybe you could share it with her instead of saying "not this" "not that" I'm just suggesting what many women want - getting toned and getting a little more strength.  Also, if you actually read what she wrote, she says she has a newborn, and one month of lifting experience, so maybe it would be more convenient to work out at home and easier to not perform technical lifts.  Anyway, you can do this for upper body below...maybe you guys will say not to do this too and provide no solutions.

http://www.adarq.org/forum/lancests-performance-blog/effective-and-time-effecient-upper-body-

then click on "Effective and Time Effecient Upper body *(and lower) Training for Athletes"

There is some good information in there.  Also, you should read over this, it's good for skinny athletes and will give a template you can follow.

http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/64-westside-for-skinny-bastards-part1.html

And, Raptor, you say were saying "if you want to become an athelete you better train like one" - although I agree, she actually said "I'm looking to get a stronger upper body" which could freaking mean anything.  It could mean she wants to get a little stronger and is mostly concerned about tone, which is exactly why I was asking her what her goals were.  I do not assume everyone has the same goals - that's why I was trying to ask her her goals.  P90x is great for toning and easy to follow, so if that's what she wanted I do not see the issue with it.  In terms of the workout  I was asking about what access to equipment she had in terms of a gym, squat rack, all that.

And, so we're clear, I just wanted to help this person, not argue.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/articles
http://alanaragon.com/articles.html

a calorie is a calorie, doesn't matter where it comes from (just from a gain/lose weight point of view).
daily-weekly average calories count, not in how many meals they are split up. this is more a question about personal preference or lifestyle.


WOW, even more calories than cytogainer... so what? its just serving size - every weightgainer has about the same calories per 100g of powder...

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2011, 07:19:16 pm »
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Today I've eaten: current weight 130lbs

Nutritional drink ( boost plus )

TGIF- chicken breast and mash potatoes and a slice of cheese cake

Another TGIF- chicken breast and mash potatoes 2 chicken tenders

A banana



just saying what you ate without giving more info about calories, protein, carbs and fat makes it hard to give advice.

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2011, 08:34:48 pm »
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When you go to a restaurant they don't put calorie amount on anything. Nor do the put it on fruit, but if you look at the one I did yesterday it had the calories on it.

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 10:56:36 am »
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What I've eaten:
Bananas
Honey bunches of oats
Turkey burger(grill)
Hotdog(grill)
Chicken breast (grill)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2011, 02:28:45 pm by Girljordan »

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 12:24:01 pm »
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What I've eaten:
Bananas
Honey bunches of oats

Um... the whole day?

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 12:34:30 pm »
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 Well it's only 12:47pm here. So the day has just begun.

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Re: Skinny weak chic looking to get a lot strong. Help!
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2011, 12:30:17 am »
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On meal frequency and fasting (with numerous references to the relevant scientific literature):  http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
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