Author Topic: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.  (Read 33515 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

DamienZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 991
  • Yeah dude!
  • Respect: +47
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2011, 05:20:21 pm »
+1
As far as i know Bolt ate McDonals in Bejing because it was the only food that he knew from home, so he was sure his stomach wouldn't get upset.

Quote
Bolt admits he is still only 60 per cent fit after post-Beijing commitments put his winter training behind schedule but he is working flat out to get back into racing shape.
"I'm actually on a diet now because I'm really trying to catch up with my training," he said. "My coach decided that I should stop eating nuggets for a while."

Quote
The day of the record-breaking 100 meter final Bolt said he "didn't have breakfast, woke up at 11, sat around watching TV, then had some chicken nuggets, slept for 2 hours...then went back and got some more nuggets!" The reason for the nuggets? Usain was afraid to eat anything else because he didn't trust the foreign food in China.

Also, about juicing in sprinting. It's obvious that a sprinter would use other stuff and/or stuff in a different way than bodybuilders.


Quote
The UFC allowed Sonnen to have a testosterone level that was 4-times the legal limit, and 16-times the testosterone levels of the average man.

He doesn't look really muscular to me...

TheSituation

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1335
  • Just remember me when I make it shine
  • Respect: +215
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2011, 05:24:59 pm »
0
Remember Rashard Lewis?



DHEA. Not even a PED in real world sense of the word.
I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


Don't PM me asking me training questions. I'm here for the lulz. If you want help, post on the forums and get help from all the members, maybe even me.

DamienZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 991
  • Yeah dude!
  • Respect: +47
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2011, 05:31:24 pm »
0
Remember Rashard Lewis?



DHEA. Not even a PED in real world sense of the word.

Reminds me of a scandal in soccer... I think it was the team Juventus Turin that took CREATINE omg :o

Raptor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14564
  • Respect: +2486
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - raptorescu
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2011, 05:57:56 pm »
0
I ate chicken. Am I roided? Should I give up on sports?

I know, no and yes.

$ick3nin.vend3tta

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
  • Respect: +18
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2011, 07:22:24 pm »
0
I HOPE bolt isn't juiced, but i also don't really think he is juiced.. he could have used ped's during his down period between 400m and 100m, but nothing has been proven.. alot of his teammates get busted but he remains clean.. he'd have to fail something or have some people close to him start throwing out accusations, none of which has happened.

casey combest is a "spring" who is extremely strong.. has nothing to do with his physique.. he just has insane bounce, sure he could have been on juice but no one has come out saying he was, he didn't fail anything, etc.. you can't get that kind of bounce with juice, it's natural ability.

I'm in total agreement. Good post.


Appearance means nothing. Heaps of skinny looking soccer players have tested positive for various anabolic steroids.

Anabolic steroids other than testosterone are pretty easily detected now and athletes have shifted towards using a cocktail of testosterone, HGH, insulin and thyroid hormones which unfortunately are almost almost undetectable. HGH can so far only be detected in blood which is not tested outside of competition. Athletes can use HGH all off season without having to worry. Testosterone testing is based on a ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Take moderate doses and keep yourself under 4:1 and again, no worry with testing. Insulin cannot be tested for at all and testing for t3 and t4 is extremely rudimentary. Sprinters and other more general athletes are also using EPO to improve endurance and recovery.

WADA aren't even particularly coy about how easy it is to work around the testing:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/15/science/sci-baseball15

Dwain Chambers was taking HGH, testosterone, insulin and T3 while being tested multiple times over more than a year and none of it was detected. That's how useless the testing is.

Fair points but soccer players are planets apart from elite track speed. You might get a couple running 10.2, it's a planet.


Right, lets say Casey Combest & Christophe Lemaitre are on the juice (specifically a mixture of anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4).

What are the anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4 improving in terms of sprint speed?. I associate those drugs with building muscle.  Combest & Lemaitre don't have big muscles. So, what are those drugs doing to aid the skinny guys?. How/what are they gaining from usage?.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2011, 07:59:25 pm by $ick3nin.vend3tta »

DamienZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 991
  • Yeah dude!
  • Respect: +47
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2011, 07:30:49 pm »
0
I guess they use it more for training recovery and strength gains (while training). During the competition they might use some stuff that can't be detected.

$ick3nin.vend3tta

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
  • Respect: +18
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2011, 07:50:24 pm »
0
I guess they use it more for training recovery and strength gains (while training). During the competition they might use some stuff that can't be detected.

But the thing is, those guys don't even look like they lift. If they both walked down the street towards me I wouldn't associate them with lifting weights (even light weights).

So we go back....

What are the anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4 improving in terms of sprint speed?, if where to say these guys aren't lifting heavy loads?.

Recovery? OK, but there are natural methods that are very effective, ice baths, massage, good sleep patterns etc.

I'm sure we will get too a point in this thread where people's logic is flawed. It'll come blu.


« Last Edit: March 30, 2011, 08:01:21 pm by $ick3nin.vend3tta »

LanceSTS

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2255
  • Respect: +550
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/LanceSTS
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2011, 08:35:24 pm »
0
Usain Bolt could be clean, he could also be using/have used drugs, until proven otherwise its not fair to him to label him a cheater.


  Winstrol is a pretty mainstream drug for sprinters, not alot of weight gain, clears quickly, and very popular in power/speed sports.   
Relax.

ARowe

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 481
  • Respect: +13
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2011, 08:39:19 pm »
0



Most, if not all of those guys use keto to cut. Granted, some of them are on gear, they still use keto to get them shredded.

inb4 flamed for pic


I've never done keto myself but I did do carb tapering throughout the day and that worked pretty well for me, wasn't very strict either.
Stats as of October 15, 2010
age: 20
weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

TheSituation

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1335
  • Just remember me when I make it shine
  • Respect: +215
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2011, 08:56:09 pm »
0



Most, if not all of those guys use keto to cut. Granted, some of them are on gear, they still use keto to get them shredded.

inb4 flamed for pic


I've never done keto myself but I did do carb tapering throughout the day and that worked pretty well for me, wasn't very strict either.

They are all on steroids; test prop, tren, and clen being their drugs of choice.
I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


Don't PM me asking me training questions. I'm here for the lulz. If you want help, post on the forums and get help from all the members, maybe even me.

TheSituation

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1335
  • Just remember me when I make it shine
  • Respect: +215
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2011, 08:58:18 pm »
0
I ate chicken. Am I roided? Should I give up on sports?

I know, no and yes.

Chicken isn't made in laboratories

inb4 dem hormones in chicken
I don't lift for girls, I lift for guys on the internet



[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


Don't PM me asking me training questions. I'm here for the lulz. If you want help, post on the forums and get help from all the members, maybe even me.

dirksilver

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 296
  • Respect: +6
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2011, 08:59:25 pm »
0
Usain Bolt could be clean, he could also be using/have used drugs, until proven otherwise its not fair to him to label him a cheater.


  Winstrol is a pretty mainstream drug for sprinters, not alot of weight gain, clears quickly, and very popular in power/speed sports.   

i thought winstrol made your tendons brittle? i figured more athletes(who can afford it)would use anavar

dirksilver

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 296
  • Respect: +6
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2011, 09:04:40 pm »
0



Most, if not all of those guys use keto to cut. Granted, some of them are on gear, they still use keto to get them shredded.

inb4 flamed for pic


I've never done keto myself but I did do carb tapering throughout the day and that worked pretty well for me, wasn't very strict either.

those are some purdy girls

ARowe

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 481
  • Respect: +13
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2011, 09:07:20 pm »
0



Most, if not all of those guys use keto to cut. Granted, some of them are on gear, they still use keto to get them shredded.

inb4 flamed for pic


I've never done keto myself but I did do carb tapering throughout the day and that worked pretty well for me, wasn't very strict either.

They are all on steroids; test prop, tren, and clen being their drugs of choice.


philray is natty. He has progress pics of himself since he started lifting... looks natty, no huge jumps. He's also the oldest and has been working out the longest.

Babo claims he's natty. Skeptical though because he blew up just like zyzz/chestbrah in the same time period and they are open about using gear. Babo says his grandpa or something was some successful bodybuilder or something though so he claims he has very good genetics.

Manlets ftw
Stats as of October 15, 2010
age: 20
weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

$ick3nin.vend3tta

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
  • Respect: +18
    • View Profile
Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2011, 09:09:11 pm »
0
I thought winstrol made your tendons brittle?.

If that is the case, a sprinter will never reach his full potential, far from it.


« Last Edit: March 30, 2011, 09:11:55 pm by $ick3nin.vend3tta »