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Yeah true my life just got even worse last night. I had an argument with my girlfriend so I caught up with some of my old friends and went to a party and just made the dumb choice to drive. Got pulled over by the cops and as soon as I got pulled over I was just thinking "I'm fuked". Ended up blowing 0.075 when the limit is 0.050 in Aus so now I've lost my licensce and got a $1500 fine as well. Coz I don't have a licensce now I can't get to work so I'm just going to quit. Whenever you think life is going bad there's always some way it seems to get worse.

That is not true. There might be a silver lining in that. The last time I got fired I felt terrible but in reality that was the kick in the butt I needed at that point to do something better... got hired on a salary 1.5 times bigger after that and in a MUCH better environment, and it went up from that point on.

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2013, 07:29:04 am »
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Drowning my sorrows right now unemployed on welfare. On the dole and the bottle is my only escape.
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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2013, 07:39:28 am »
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Drowning my sorrows right now unemployed on welfare. On the dole and the bottle is my only escape.

Or actually learning stuff as you have some free time should be your only escape, and getting better.

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2013, 08:24:47 am »
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Drowning my sorrows right now unemployed on welfare. On the dole and the bottle is my only escape.

Or actually learning stuff as you have some free time should be your only escape, and getting better.

All the shit I need to learn you learn on the job.
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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2013, 08:32:49 am »
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I mean I already wasted 4 years of my life doing a fkn Business degree that I'm never going to use and isn't even worth the paper that's it's written on. All the mandatory courses that I got to do for my construction are just fkn common sense but the Government and greedy training organisations just make you do them otherwise you can't go on site.

Quick we better get some more 457 visas and tonnes of immigrants out because we've got a 'skills shortage' meanwhile there are tens of thousands of perfectly capable people like me just sitting around doing fuck all because nobody will hire you without experience because nobody wants to train their fkn workers these days. Oh we'll just leave it to 'training organisations'. Same as recruitment. Oh we'll just leave it to 'recruitment agencies'. Than they wonder why our country is going to the dogs.

I mean it's just frustrating I've been working ever since I was 15. Fast food, retail, construction, manufacturing, you name it I've probably done it all the shit jobs. I got great marks at school got a degree with Honours but despite all my work nobody will give me a chance to start a career because I have no experience in office environments but how can you get experience when nobody will give you a job!?

Now I'm starting from the bottom trying to get into another industry, which once again is all about 'who you know' and not what you know. I'm going to relocate to where all the jobs are once I get my car back, which will increase my chances. I'm not trying to bitch and complain I'm just explaining where all my frustration is coming from...

As I seen recently on another forum that sums it up perfectly.

With all the threads regarding the stiff competition for while collar jobs and how hard it is to make decent coin without years of experience in white collar industries, I have been compelled to start this thread.

In my view, the supply demand equation no longer favours people with degrees. There are too many people with degrees, and not a lot of change in the number of jobs that require these degrees. The previous government removing the cap on university places hasn't helped with the situation either.

I believe we are way too overeducated and overqualified for the vast majority of jobs, and this is leading to a generation of frustrated young people who were mislead into thinking that uni is the best way to a highly paid future. It is no longer the case, uni grads are often struggling with low paid, often not that highly skilled work.

The government's crazy aim of getting more people with uni degrees is a terrible idea. It is leading to increasing frustrations amongst people, fighting to jobs, HUGE HECS debts and just a normal, mediocre job at the end, and will take years and years to make decent coin.
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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #110 on: February 15, 2016, 05:10:43 pm »
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i used to have so much fun programming. not so much lately (last 6 months). I have to force myself to focus & code. Not good. It's a problem considering it's a good way for me to make decent $$.

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #111 on: February 16, 2016, 07:01:13 am »
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i used to have so much fun programming. not so much lately (last 6 months). I have to force myself to focus & code. Not good. It's a problem considering it's a good way for me to make decent $$.

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You tell me! I'm currently learning Python (doing an MIT course which is very difficult) and Java&Android SDK. It's imperative for me to continue with this or I'll kind of be out of options.

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #112 on: February 16, 2016, 08:28:16 am »
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i used to have so much fun programming. not so much lately (last 6 months). I have to force myself to focus & code. Not good. It's a problem considering it's a good way for me to make decent $$.

dno

You tell me! I'm currently learning Python (doing an MIT course which is very difficult) and Java&Android SDK.

nice! i remember when learning programming languages was the most fun thing in the world.

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It's imperative for me to continue with this or I'll kind of be out of options.

damn. :/

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #113 on: February 16, 2016, 08:54:44 am »
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i used to have so much fun programming. not so much lately (last 6 months). I have to force myself to focus & code. Not good. It's a problem considering it's a good way for me to make decent $$.

dno

You tell me! I'm currently learning Python (doing an MIT course which is very difficult) and Java&Android SDK.

nice! i remember when learning programming languages was the most fun thing in the world.

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It's imperative for me to continue with this or I'll kind of be out of options.

damn. :/

same, learning programming languages was fun, but there is no fun in learning the new ones, i still love learning c, c++, python is not as fun, matlab is ok.
but it gets hard when it gets very technical.
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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #114 on: February 16, 2016, 09:10:49 am »
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Well... it depends what you mean by "learning".

The truth is that these days the job offers ask for way too much stuff.

Here to hire as an Android Developer you need to know Java SE, the Android SDK, XML, HTTP, REST, Soap, SQLite, Agile Methodologies, SVN/GitHub, Web Services and a ton of other stuff.

Other offers for Java EE for banking applications require a list way too long for me to mention here.

Where the fuck do you develop that experience if nobody wants to hire and teach you/give you an environment to actually learn and apply all that stuff. It's impossible to do from home/it takes way too much time to get good at it.

I've been at over 30 interviews so far and I'm scheduled to go on two more these days. I've even offered to sign a clause that I won't leave the company if they invest in me (although I always tell them I don't do that shit, if they invest time and resources in me they will get more back, I explicitly tell them that).

So yeah... way too much stuff

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #115 on: February 16, 2016, 09:15:02 am »
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Well... it depends what you mean by "learning".

The truth is that these days the job offers ask for way too much stuff.

Here to hire as an Android Developer you need to know Java SE, the Android SDK, XML, HTTP, REST, Soap, SQLite, Agile Methodologies, SVN/GitHub, Web Services and a ton of other stuff.

Other offers for Java EE for banking applications require a list way too long for me to mention here.

Where the fuck do you develop that experience if nobody wants to hire and teach you/give you an environment to actually learn and apply all that stuff. It's impossible to do from home/it takes way too much time to get good at it.

I've been at over 30 interviews so far and I'm scheduled to go on two more these days. I've even offered to sign a clause that I won't leave the company if they invest in me (although I always tell them I don't do that shit, if they invest time and resources in me they will get more back, I explicitly tell them that).

So yeah... way too much stuff

wow, yeah i know exactly what you mean. a c# web developer needs to have the following.

    Knowledge of C# and ASP.NET
    Be familiar with SQL Server
    A good understanding of ASP.NET MVC
    HTML, CSS, JQuery, JavaScript, AJAX, and LINQ
    Source control knowledge - TFS

I have even seen graduate job asking for more technical knowledge in programming then the learning scope.
I did c# but they want it at the next level.
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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #116 on: February 16, 2016, 12:19:44 pm »
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Another example:

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The job's daily activities include design, development, maintenance and integration of business applications. C# will be the usual programming language, Visual Studio - the development environment and Microsoft SQL Server - the data storage engine.

Responsibilities:
•   Building new systems with ASP.MVC , ASP.NET , SQL Server 2008/ 2012, EntityFramework and Linq
•   Developing new functionality on our existing software products
•   Leading/mentoring IT staff and sharing knowledge through knowledge-sharing presentations
•   Participating in a small, experienced, energetic development team
Requirements:
•   Solid knowledge of C# and .NET Framework, OOP concepts, algorithms and data structures – minimum 4 years of experience
•   Web development experience (ASP.MVC ,ASP.NET, Java script, AJAX, CSS, JSON, JQUERY); - minimum 4 years of experience
•   Very good knowledge of T-SQL and relational database design; - minimum 4 years of experience
•   Graduate of Computer Science/Cybernetics/Information Technology/Electronics College
•   Fluent in English
•   Ability and willingness to work as part of a team of developers
•   Learning oriented person
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•   Active Reports, SQL Reporting Services
•   Java & Install Shield knowledge
•   Active Directory knowledge
•   Knowledge of WCF Web Services, WCF Data Services

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #117 on: February 17, 2016, 07:03:36 am »
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they love to just throw everything in the "requirements soup". what's funny is, if you interview at some of these same jobs, you can end up getting it if you lack several requirements. sometimes it's just a big joke :f

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #118 on: February 17, 2016, 03:01:43 pm »
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they love to just throw everything in the "requirements soup". what's funny is, if you interview at some of these same jobs, you can end up getting it if you lack several requirements. sometimes it's just a big joke :f

Then they come in and say "we can't give you the salary you requested - you lack so many skills that we just require. Here's 200 euros/month and be happy that you got hired!"

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Re: the EMO thread - when you have depressing weak things to say, say em here
« Reply #119 on: February 17, 2016, 03:06:43 pm »
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By the way - went to a job interview today.

After we had the HR meeting, which went really well, I had my technical test with one guy from there. I just nailed it, was so fluent with my answers, I did pretty much all of it. In OOP I did everything right, the Android SDK part it was more difficult.

Then another woman from "sales" came, which was a bitch, and said "you asked for way too much money, you basically have ZERO experience". I'm like "no, not really, I have worked 7 and a half years as a graphic designer, that means some company thought I am good at what I do and kept me, that's not "ZERO" experience" + she hasn't looked at my portfolio (which includes Android and Java applications) and then she started complaining that I asked too much money, 600-700 euros/month.

I told them they are very far away from me, so I'll be wasting 1 hour to come to work and another to get back + the hours at the job - I'd end up using 10+ hours of my life every day for them.

Anyway, they are crazy. They (at least that woman) wants to just use people as slaves for as little money as possible (like any amoral corporation would do) so they hire young guys, give them a crap salary and away they go being a "successful company with ambitious goals". Fuck'em.